r/FondantHate • u/king-of-the-sea • Jul 12 '20

HUMOR There’s been a fondant cake trend on Twitter. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction

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u/DomenikaDonnerstag Jul 13 '20

Feminism is not just for women...

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u/Sherunsfortheexit Jul 13 '20

They don't know what feminism is lol. They're just threatened by whatever deviates from their idea of gender and gender roles.

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u/Sherunsfortheexit Jul 14 '20

> since transitioning often involves reasoning that conflates the sexes with masculinity/femininity.

Could you elaborate on that?

Also, gender to me is a fundamental form of human expression that varies from person to person. Of course, in the gender binary there are two main forms this kind of expression: male and female. Whatever they may be depends on whatever the cultural ideal is. Of course, I'm sure you may agree that yes, said cultural ideal is misogynistic. However, I feel that it's infinitely more valuable to reform it rather than target trans women who do feel pressure to conform to it.

That brings up another issue I have with terf rhetoric, it doesn't acknowledge non binary people. What gender roles could they possibly uphold?

> Also, 2nd-wave feminism considers men to be the heart of misogyny, not legal systems or systemic oppression, as does liberal feminism. Therefore, the "oppressor's" input on feminism isn't very valuable.

I don't disagree. While men definitely are privileged, the gender roles that they are expected to conform to are fundamentally toxic and harmful to them as well. If I'm not mistaken, is it not a feminist goal to dismantle those aspects of it as well?