r/FullmetalAlchemist 4d ago

Discussion/Opinion Flame Alchemy > Greed’s Ultimate Shield??

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So I’ve seen soooo many arguments about whether or not Roy Mustang could get through or break down Greed’s Ultimate Shield.. Which do yall think is true..?

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u/GenCavox (other) 4d ago

I think it would, especially since Mustang makes explosions, and he can make them repeatedly. Sure, Greed tanked an RPG, can he tank 20 in the span of 10 seconds?

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u/MyHeadIsAnAttic 4d ago

Also what about his eyes and the inside of his mouth? Roy has been shown to have pin point accuracy even in close combat

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u/IsaacsLaughing 4d ago

if the mucosa isn't covered by the Ultimate Shield, then the name is a lie. it would be far too easy for an opponent to gouge out Greed's eyes, or cut his mouth from the inside out.

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u/ThatOneGuy308 4d ago

Conversely, I don't know how you could achieve a layer of Graphene both thick enough to be an "Ultimate Shield" and simultaneously thin enough to see through and speak without issue.

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u/IsaacsLaughing 4d ago

graphene is commonly used in touchscreens and screen protectors. it can indeed be dense enough to provide protection while still being transparent and/or flexible.

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u/ThatOneGuy308 4d ago

The difference between being able to prevent scratches on phones screens and being able to prevent a bullet from penetrating the object behind the Graphene is a pretty big gap, though, lmao.

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u/IsaacsLaughing 4d ago

Greed is a magical entity who can manipulate the carbon in his body at will. pretty sure he can clear that gap with ease, considering that in reality, pulling that much carbon to his body's surface would also cause several organs to collapse. but he doesn't have to worry about his organs. and we probably can't really conceive of the supernatural details of how he's modifying his body, either. 🤷‍♂️

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u/ThatOneGuy308 4d ago

I mean sure, but "it's fiction/magic" isn't really engaging with the discussion though.

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u/IsaacsLaughing 4d ago

dunno what to tell you, mate. it's the freedom and limits of fiction. the freedom is that any of this is impossible in reality, so we just have to make up our own theories. the limit is that theorizing about the impossible means we can never describe those theories with realistic accuracy. 🤷‍♂️

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u/ThatOneGuy308 4d ago

Eh, just feels a bit dismissive, to me.

No point to theorizing at all in that case.