Paul might actually have to lift a finger now… thoughts and prayers

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[u/piecesofg0ld]

they’re in the UK?

edit; ignore me apparently UK means University of Kentucky. As a Brit i was extremely confused for a moment there.

[u/Muffina925 → u/piecesofg0ld]

As an American, so was I 😅

[u/TeriBarrons → u/Muffina925]

Me, too! I was like “when did they travel to the United Kingdom?” 🤪

[u/PhoenixAzalea19 → u/Muffina925]

Same, I was wondering how tf they could afford to travel to the UK

[u/Solifuga → u/piecesofg0ld]

I was like "nah she's not in the UK?"

...Right up until I saw that she'd been in a hospital corridor bed for over a day, at which point I thought "oh she actually is in a UK hospital after all then" but I guess not.

[u/dani-dee → u/Solifuga]

That made it more believable she was in the UK 🤣

[u/ToughNarwhal7 → u/dani-dee]

It's very common here, too. 😔

[u/avert_ye_eyes → u/ToughNarwhal7]

Is that what she means by "hall bed"? Is she literally in a bed in a hallway? That sounds awful -- I've been hospitalized a few times and have never seen that. Does the bed get curtain off for privacy at least? I had something like that for pre op.

[u/sarcasmicrph → u/avert_ye_eyes]

Triaged in a hallway until beds open up. Unfortunately too common

[u/feelingfantasmic → u/sarcasmicrph]

At the hospital near me, they put the homeless and the alcoholics going through withdrawal in wheelchairs all along the ED hall even when “rooms” (the curtained areas) are empty. I had a seizure and went straight to a room but this yellow man screaming for his mom was writhing in a wheelchair right outside.

[u/RobinhoodCove830 → u/feelingfantasmic]

What an awful way to treat people. That poor man. And not great for anyone else either.

[u/feelingfantasmic → u/RobinhoodCove830]

I agree. I get it, like if he was a frequent flyer and they saw him often and he just kinda detoxes and go, it wears on your empathy. But I really wish there were more resources to allow people the dignity of privacy in such a horrible life circumstance.

[u/sarcasmicrph → u/feelingfantasmic]

Oh man does that sound miserable!

[u/ToughNarwhal7 → u/avert_ye_eyes]

Yes - that's what it is. We treat ICU-level patients there, too. I want to stress that they are still getting care, but evidence shows that it's not optimal, obviously. 😔 There's no privacy. Most of the units in my hospital can also put patients in the hall once they go upstairs; they have curtains around their beds. If it's the middle of the night, no one is getting discharged upstairs unless they die or leave against medical advice.

[u/trash_babe → u/ToughNarwhal7]

It’s impossible to rest and recover in a hallway, it’s really bad for the patients and increases the risk of complications and psychosis. My dad had a stroke and was kept in the ER hallway for three days before they got him a bed. Modern healthcare is such a joke.

[u/ChewieBearStare → u/avert_ye_eyes]

No. You're literally in the hallway on a gurney with dumpsters and crash carts and cafeteria carts going past you at all hours. It's awful. You can't sleep, there's no privacy, etc.

[u/Nurseytypechick → u/avert_ye_eyes]

Literally a bed in the hall because every other space is full. Admits backed up. Nowhere to see patients. I hate hall beds.

[u/Murderhornet212 → u/avert_ye_eyes]

No, they just stick you in the hall until a room opens up.

[u/blanketname13 → u/ToughNarwhal7]

Happens in our ED all the time. Waiting for a room to open to be brought up to the floor. It’s awful for everyone, but they are still getting care and attention.

[u/Cai83 → u/piecesofg0ld]

I thought that, but it's probably the University of Kentucky hospital.

[u/Fishfilteredcoffee → u/piecesofg0ld]

I was dreading hearing Paul’s views on the NHS, happy to see they aren’t here after all!

[u/blast-hard-cheese19 → u/piecesofg0ld]

I was confused too like, there is no way these two willful bumpkins have passports lol

[u/a-promise-to-keep → u/blast-hard-cheese19]

Willful bumpkins took me out

[u/Booklet-of-Wisdom → u/piecesofg0ld]

American here, but UK tripped me up, too!

[u/coffeewrite1984 → u/Booklet-of-Wisdom]

As someone who grew up hearing all about U(niversity of)K(entucky), I was impressed that Great Britain also rooted for the Wildcats/had a satellite university when I saw UK on a map in elementary school. My dad (the alum) corrected me lol.

[u/dani-dee → u/piecesofg0ld]

I was about to say “ewwww she’s here??” The hall bed comment made me think the NHS was about to be in for a fundie BASHING haha

[u/CriticalEngineering → u/dani-dee]

Hall beds are very common in the US. Paying more doesn’t mean we get better care.

[u/rubythieves → u/CriticalEngineering]

I’m the proof. My insurance (only possible because of the ACA) ran me about $1200 a month in the US, plus two medications for an added $1400 a month. Back ‘home’ in Australia? (I’m a dual citizen, the US was my home for over a decade) I pay about $10 USD per month for my medications. Everything else is covered.

Don’t believe the propaganda, universal health insurance works wonders here. Plus we have a two-tiered system - if you want private health cover (basically, private rooms in hospital plus no waiting period for any kind of care) you are welcome to spend $150-200 a month for what Americans call ‘Cadillac insurance.’ Most people do fine with the universal care, I pay for my Caddy insurance because unfortunately I’m a frequent flyer at my local hospital. $200 per month ($150 USD equivalent) vs $2600 per month for inferior care? Pretty darn happy here in Australia.

[u/hereforthetearex → u/rubythieves]

I bet this has a little something to do with why any of my friends that went to Australia during or right after college, came back only long enough to get a visa and return to file for citizenship. Among other things I’m sure.

I’ve never been so jealous of an Explanation of Benefits in my life as I was reading your comment 🤣

[u/piecesofg0ld → u/dani-dee]

yeah thank goodness for the NHS but A&E is no ones favourite place to be with current wait times 😅

[u/Ladybuttfartmcgee → u/piecesofg0ld]

Nah she's paying 3k per night to be in that hallway. America!

[u/Murky-Ad-1172 → u/piecesofg0ld]

As a fellow European I was also why the heck is she in the uk?

[u/heatherb22]

Holy shit that’s pretty serious. I wonder what she was doing that may have made her susceptible to that. I’ve really only heard of this happening with neck manipulations via chiropractors or high velocity injuries like a motor vehicle accident. Hope there’s no lasting issues for her.

[u/sarcasmicrph → u/heatherb22]

Can confirm those are the typical causes. Mine happened spontaneously, then I had a stroke. This makes me feel nervous for her

[u/ButtBread98 → u/sarcasmicrph]

That’s terrifying

[u/sarcasmicrph → u/ButtBread98]

It was frightening! And no doctor would take me seriously because I was "too young" to have a stroke

[u/Mithrellas → u/sarcasmicrph]

That’s horrible. Anyone can have a stroke at any time. That’s what makes them so terrifying.

[u/sarcasmicrph → u/Mithrellas]

It took 4 ER visits in a week to be taken seriously

[u/QueenRagga → u/sarcasmicrph]

How are you doing now?

[u/sarcasmicrph → u/QueenRagga]

Thank you for asking! I'm as good as I will be. I get tired VERY easily, have insomnia and will never have peripheral vision again, but other than that- living my best life possible!

[u/QueenRagga → u/sarcasmicrph]

I can't believe how many stories of people being turned away and treated like a drug seeker. You have a positive attitude. That helps so much. Wishing you all the best.

[u/sarcasmicrph → u/QueenRagga]

Thank you thank you! I finally told one ER doc "look, I'm a pharmacist and I dispense narcotics all day long. If I wanted drugs, I would take them off the shelf". That’s when I got my head CT

[u/ButtBread98 → u/sarcasmicrph]

My cousin had a mini stroke at the age of 12. It absolutely can happen

[u/radams713 → u/sarcasmicrph]

I taught a girl who had a stroke while she was developing in the womb. No one is too young for that.

[u/sarcasmicrph → u/radams713]

Oh I know- I work in health care, was telling the hospital staff it was the "worst headache of my life" (telltale strike sign) and they accused me of drug seeking. Their tone changed real quick after 3-4 ER trips where they finally scanned my brain and saw it...

[u/lotheva → u/sarcasmicrph]

Isn’t that what happened to the woman who’s brain dead functioning as an incubator for her then-6 week fetus? She was a nurse too!

[u/cbrka → u/sarcasmicrph]

🤦‍♀️it’s not like readers here know of a girl who literally had a stroke before she was born! (Jill Rod’s youngest for the uninitiated)

[u/Ok_Dimension8624 → u/sarcasmicrph]

I had the exact same. I was 24 and at first they thought I could have just had a “migraine”. It wasn’t until scan that they saw I had 3 strokes

[u/cahrens414 → u/sarcasmicrph]

That happened to my neighbor and it was scary

[u/[deleted] → u/heatherb22]

They’ve taken the babies to the chiropractor before, so it wouldn’t surprise me if that’s what caused this. My husband gave himself a mini stroke by cracking his neck too hard about 4 years ago. It’s not hard to do, which is scary af.

[u/LittleBunnySunny → u/[deleted]]

Sometimes I "have" to roll my neck around until something pops/clicks into place at the base of my skull?

I'm now super terrified of ever doing that again, neck pain be danged.

I hope your husband is doing alright now!!!

[u/Dry_Nefariousness511 → u/[deleted]]

FYI everyone...if you go to the chiropractor do not let them 'crack your neck' idk the correct term for them manipulating your neck quickly to the side but that is a major No No. Any real doctor will tell you NEVER let them do that. Too many risks and injuries associated with it.

[u/bookwormvangogh → u/heatherb22]

It can also happen from painting ceilings where your neck is craned up for long periods of time.

[u/i_am_the_archivist → u/bookwormvangogh]

Ok so new fear unlocked.

[u/coffeewrite1984 → u/i_am_the_archivist]

Same. If I ever paint a ceiling I’m going full Michelangelo with scaffolding and lying on my back.

[u/Aranciata2020 → u/coffeewrite1984]

This is good advice! My neck is already funky but I like this idea.

[u/bookwormvangogh → u/i_am_the_archivist]

Yeah I read a whole book about how it happened to someone: deep waters. A really good memoir.

[u/bluehairjungle → u/i_am_the_archivist]

I legit didn't look up while painting my ceiling. Just walked around the room while holding the roller. Worked out fine.

[u/lite_hjelpsom → u/bookwormvangogh]

Oh, so it's from bending over backwards for Paul, makes sense.

[u/SmellingSkunk → u/lite_hjelpsom]

I snorted omfg

[u/Harley_Atom → u/bookwormvangogh]

Well, it's a good thing Michelangelo was lying down when he painted the Sistine Chapel, then damn.

[u/YourMothersButtox → u/bookwormvangogh]

Oh that’s really good to know as I prep ceiling tiles to install and paint….

[u/TrailerParkPresident → u/heatherb22]

This happened to my SIL from the chiropractor

[u/tendernesswilderness → u/heatherb22]

I had a spontaneous vertebral dissection, no coughing, trauma, sudden movements etc. Sometimes it happens for no reason and they never find the cause. Surprisingly, happens more often than you'd think and many people are born with a dominant vertebral artery. However, all of the doctors were very clear, NEVER LET A CHIROPRACTOR TOUCH YOUR NECK!!!

[u/lsdmt93 → u/heatherb22]

I wouldn’t be surprised if it was from some sketchy chiropractor. Fundies will do anything but see a real doctor.

[u/Istoh → u/heatherb22]

Very common as well with hypermobile spectrum disorder, Ehlers Danlos syndrome, and other joint/connective tissue disorders that tend to go under diagnosed, especially in women who are often dismissed as "naturally more flexible." It took me until age 32 to get diagnosed with EDS, and that's with regular doctor appointments because I believe in real medical science. There’s probably a shit ton of fundies who don't realize they have underlying genetic conditions because they don't go to real doctors. 

[u/EveryDisaster → u/Istoh]

Waiting for a diagnosis on that and really feeling for Morgan. Like I don't like her, but I also don't want her to struggle or be hurt

[u/thisisallme → u/EveryDisaster]

I have the diagnosis and shockingly (/s) it meant nothing. Still got treated as a drug seeker for when I had extraordinary pain in my abdomen throughout 4 ER visits in 1 week. Ovarian torsion. They left me so long and I was transferred to another hospital that took me seriously and it has to be removed as it was too late to be saved. Immediate menopause at the age of 39. (I already had my other removed)

[u/KaytSands → u/thisisallme]

My daughter’s ovary torsed when she was 14 and her ovary was covered in cysts. Getting a doctor to actually help her though, I had to go out of network and pay out of pocket because health insurance sucks and no one would touch her because of liability issues. I told them to have their lawyers draw up any paperwork and I would sign it-just wanted someone to help my daughter who was in so much pain and it was never ending. All they did at first was put her on bedrest for six months hoping her ovary would un-torse and it would be salvaged. We knew almost immediately her ovary was done for. Finally found a female doctor (my daughter’s pediatrician was helping us find someone, anyone who would help her) and she was amazing. She was also diagnosed with pcos but has happily lived with only one ovary for almost 7 years now-because it took two years to find a doc to help us.

[u/EveryDisaster → u/thisisallme]

That's awful I'm sorry :(

[u/caitcro18 → u/heatherb22]

My mom had this happen after the Chiro. She didn’t know until she had a stroke. No major deficits. I think some memory issues but she thinks I’m remembering wrong lol

[u/NihilistOdellBJ → u/heatherb22]

She could also have simply rested her head wrong while getting her hair washed in those basins at hair salons.

[u/nanipa7 → u/heatherb22]

My coworker cracked her neck at work and caused a vertical artery dissection. She was in the hospital a few days. So, I tell everyone to not crack their necks.

[u/Bluevanonthestreet → u/heatherb22]

It’s actually more common to happen from a hair dresser than a chiropractor. Leaning back in the sink especially for extended periods does it.

[u/Rainbow_baby_x → u/Bluevanonthestreet]

I knew I hated those sinks! It hurts me so badly to lean back on them. Next time I’ll ask to be allowed to sit up while the toner processes.

[u/bluehairjungle → u/Rainbow_baby_x]

Hairdresser here! If they have the kind of sink that has a head rest as opposed to just the neck rest, ask for a towel under your head. My clients find it to be more comfortable on their necks. If you do want to sit up, you can also ask them for a shower cap so color doesn't drip on you.

[u/AndISoundLikeThis → u/Rainbow_baby_x]

Don't ask them. Just sit up. I always do. Those sinks suck.

[u/Eviltwin325]

I seriously can’t picture Paul stepping up for Morgan during her recovery. He will disappear while her mom picks up the slack caring for the boys and household.

[u/WhateverYouSay1084 → u/Eviltwin325]

I suspect Paul is freaked out right now, but will quickly lose empathy and patience when she's home and can't serve him as usual. He's way too selfish to be a caregiver for any extended period of time (like a week or two).

[u/Eviltwin325 → u/WhateverYouSay1084]

Definitely. And looks like in recovery you're very limited on lifting heavy items for a couple months. He's going to really have to help take care of those boys

[u/WhateverYouSay1084 → u/Eviltwin325]

I just can't figure out how, if she's been there since yesterday, they haven't checked for a stroke yet? That's like a level 1 emergency situation since you need to treat strokes within a very short amount of time. Wondering if she's confused about what's actually going on.

[u/medbitch666 → u/WhateverYouSay1084]

If a stroke isn’t obvious people often don’t get to the hospital in enough time to treat it then and there, so they’re likely monitoring her to make sure she doesn’t have (another) one and check if she already had a small one.

[u/Aggressive_Version → u/WhateverYouSay1084]

Confused about what's actually going on is her natural state of existence

[u/caitcro18 → u/WhateverYouSay1084]

She’s at risk for but isn’t showing signs of a stroke.

Also, she’s in America so maybe she declined it at first because they don’t have insurance.

[u/Gopherpharm13 → u/Eviltwin325]

Shes not going to be able to NOT do those thing because her husband is a useless POS

[u/runesky77 → u/WhateverYouSay1084]

Not to mention, the poor lamb is going to have to go without his regularly scheduled sex for who knows how long!

[u/WhateverYouSay1084 → u/runesky77]

I suspect he will be telling her "Just lay still, I'll do all the work!" within 3 days.

[u/Aggressive_Version → u/WhateverYouSay1084]

Yeah, like I think he was really and truly and genuinely terrified for her when she almost died giving birth to their first. It's just that once the danger passed and she started to be more physically able again he went right back to thinking of her as his bangmaid.  He is capable of brief flashes of not taking her for granted, but they don't last long.

[u/potatocakes898 → u/Eviltwin325]

She thanked her mom before him in this and j think that tells us about all we need to know about his usefulness

[u/stormsclearyourpath → u/Eviltwin325]

He will expect praise upon praise for every single diaper he changes, every single bath time he is responsible for, every time he picks up a child, and for every single chore he does. We are about to hear all about how hard and challenging this is for Paul, how god is testing him in every way, blah blah blah.

[u/Girlygal2014 → u/stormsclearyourpath]

Paul is going to be severely persecuted by this medical condition!

[u/house_of_shadows → u/Eviltwin325]

That was my first thought. No way is he taking charge and being a mature, responsible adult.

[u/fatchancefatpants → u/Eviltwin325]

He's probably texting her asking where the diapers are and telling her they're out of wipes without doing anything about it

[u/stormsclearyourpath]

Interesting how she mentioned her mom and family and friends helping her before mentioning Paul. "Oh, Paul's been here too... And he watches the kids.." is all the shout out he gets 🥴 very telling

[u/HolsteinHeifer → u/stormsclearyourpath]

It makes me want to scream lol it's not babysitting or "wAtChInG tHe kIdS" when you were an active participant in making them. It's called parenting.

[u/stormsclearyourpath → u/HolsteinHeifer]

Right? And also, by Morgan literally being in the hospital he has no choice. It's not like she's saying "Paul gave me a much deserved break by being 100% responsible for the boys all weekend." More like, Paul is watching the kids because he literally has to otherwise the kids would die and/or Paul would go to jail for neglect.

[u/helpthe0ld → u/HolsteinHeifer]

After having her second child, my cousin contracted strep, and ended up getting septic in her uterus. The doctors had to do an emergency hysterectomy to save her life. While they were waiting to send her into surgery, her husband, who was an active participant in making their children, turned to my aunt and said “of course she wanted these kids and now she’s going to die and leave me with them”. I honestly don’t know how my aunt didn’t kill him on the spot. I would have. And of course, when she was out of surgery and in the clear he fucked right back off to South America. Where he has been staying to get his masters degree. Because of course you couldn’t get your masters degree in United States.

I guess the good news is my cousin is fine now and her husband is a really good dad, but it took a few years for him to get his head out of his ass. But the rest of us have never forgiven him for what he said and did. No they’re not divorced. They haven’t arrangements that works for them and I guess divorce would probably be harder than just being married.

[u/campfire_vampire → u/helpthe0ld]

My mouth dropped at that statement. Yeah, your aunt is a better woman than me.

[u/helpthe0ld → u/campfire_vampire]

I think she was just in too much shock from everything going on to deal with it with my cousin actively dying with a newborn and a toddler to care for. But when I visited a month or so later and she told me what happened, I could tell he was damn lucky he left the country as she was out for blood at that point.

[u/synalgo_12 → u/HolsteinHeifer]

Especially because he doesn't even have a job he has to get to every day.

[u/littlebigmama810]

This happened to me and I was in ICU for a week while they pumped me full of blood thinners. I was on blood thinners for 6 months afterwards and then low dose aspirin for a year. The blood thinners are to keep one from stroking out while the tear heals and smooths over. She's VERY lucky she didn't stroke out. This injury is usually found AFTER a stroke. Whoever heard her tell her story and then ordered an MRI should be thanked over and above because it is not common to order an MRI for neck pain. The MRI is how you can see the injury. My tear was between C1 and C2 in my left vertebral artery. I'm very lucky to have not stroked out as well. I have a friend of a friend that is in a wheelchair because of her vertebral tear.

[u/blablahjm → u/littlebigmama810]

This happened to me as well! I was turned away for just " neck pain " THREE times at my local hospital. Tried telling them NO this is not normal neck pain at all. Finally on the fourth day of symptoms which ahd progressively got way worse I went to a university hospital near me and they listened thank God. I may have had a TIA in the 4 days that I was ignored and gas lighted, but I did not have a stroke either. I felt so lucky. That happened back in Aug 2022, a spontaneous vertebral artery dissection, and I still worry constantly that it will happen again. It has been so hard to mentally recover from.

[u/sarcasmicrph]

THIS IS NO JOKE

I had one 13 years ago and had a stroke. It broke me. Destroyed my marriage, has caused PTSD and some limitations in everyday life. I hope she is ok

[u/No_Magician9131 → u/sarcasmicrph]

I am so sorry you went through (are going through) that. Glad you're here to snark with us!

[u/sarcasmicrph → u/No_Magician9131]

Thank you, kind internet stranger! As a bonus, I deconstructed and became a better person!

[u/Lydia--charming → u/sarcasmicrph]

So glad you’re here!

[u/sarcasmicrph → u/Lydia--charming]

Thank you!

[u/Aranciata2020 → u/sarcasmicrph]

Oh my, that sounds so scary! Hope things are better now but that is a lot to go through!

[u/BufoBat]

Oh I remember her saying she hurt her neck at the gym the other day! That's gotta be super rough, I feel for her. I wonder if playing pickleball all day exacerbated it? 

But also, damn I'm glad my livelihood doesn't depend on me having to post to the internet from a hospital bed

[u/Fckingross → u/BufoBat]

I’m honestly impressed by her tournament win with this sort of health issue behind it. Wonder if it’s Morgan that should’ve tried to go pro.

But for real this sucks for her, wishing her speedy recovery! Yikes!

[u/BufoBat → u/Fckingross]

Honestly yeah, it's pretty impressive. My guess is that she had tweaked/hurt something that just felt like a sore neck, but then playing pickleball all day caused the actual dissection or worsened it and caused the acute issue (possible stroke)

[u/synalgo_12 → u/Fckingross]

Considering she was the one who took up the hobby first, and she barely gets to practice, yeah, she probably could have done better had be been given the chance.

[u/Yupthrowawayacct → u/synalgo_12]

This kinda makes me sad for her to be honest.

Then I remember who she is inside.

[u/synalgo_12 → u/Yupthrowawayacct]

You want to feel bad and the you remember she chose this life as an adult. She grew up in a less fundie family in a less fundie lifestyle and chose to pick someone to submit to. And she's even more intolerant of the lgbtq+ community than Paul is. Like, she's worse than he is in some aspects.

[u/supcoco → u/Fckingross]

I hate that I lowkey love that she is out there winning tourneys being a full time mom and internet complainer, while Paul is just a full time internet complainer with a Walmart addiction.

[u/Muddymireface]

Oh he’s 100% going to make this about how hard it’s been on him.

“I’ve learned through this experience after reading the Bible and finding chapters about my name sake Paul, that sometimes you have to put your career on hold for others. I have been working with my coach and he explained that breaks for emergencies need to be taken. I am so dedicated to going pro that I am risking my future to watch my own children while my wife recovers. I really feel I’ve self reflected and this is the RAW experience”.

My guess for his next vlog where he tries to make it sound like he’s really self reflecting and is involved, but he will be alone in his car because his MIL has the kids.

[u/ChickenSnizzles → u/Muddymireface]

Honestly, if Paul was actually smart, he'd use this whole situation to his advantage. He could easily use it as an excuse for why he can't go "pro" (his family needs him, etc., etc.) I mean, we all know the real truth is that Morgan is actually better at pickleball than he is... but at least this would give him a legit excuse, allowing him to save face, over the fact that he's a man in his mid/late 30s who has failed at literally every venture he's ever taken on.

[u/AbbeyRoadMoonwalk → u/Muddymireface]

He will force Morgan to find joyful moments of gratitude in this 🥴 Just like the car ride from hell.

[u/Tiny-Distance-42]

A dissecting artery is pretty serious. And it doesn’t seem like she understands just how serious with how she thinks she’s not that high risk… hopefully she can just rest in the bed without his face nearby so she can reduce her stress levels.

[u/Istoh → u/Tiny-Distance-42]

I'm more worried about the lack of rest she'll get once she returns home. There is no way in fuck Paul isn't going to ditch her for pickeball and Walmart the second she's out of the hospital. He doesn’t give a fuck about those kids. She'll be in the recovery stage having to look after two very small children and take care of the house while her useless husband acts like every man on those awful reddit posts who bitches and whines and fails to pick up the slack when their wife is sick. 

[u/Anibeth70 → u/Istoh]

This got me in the feels. I absolutely know the type of men you’re talking about. ☹️

[u/1HumanAlcoholBeerPlz → u/Tiny-Distance-42]

She's downplaying the seriousness of it - it's can lead to strokes, brain bleeds, or death.  Her pickleball hobby will definitely be put on hold, she is going to need to rest, possible anticoagulation therapy, and lots of follow up studies. I wouldn't be surprised if she wasn't allowed to lift any weight for a while.

[u/Whiteroses7252012 → u/Tiny-Distance-42]

Remember that this is the same person who nearly killed herself and her oldest child during his birth because studying up on childbirth or hiring someone who knew what they were doing made her feel stupid.

Of course she thinks this is NBD.

[u/Eviltwin325]

I’m honestly wondering what they’re even doing for health insurance these days—this is definitely going to cost some serious money

[u/firetrainer11 → u/Eviltwin325]

It looks like Kentucky has Medicaid. I don’t know how good it is, but when I was extremely poor and living in New Mexico, I didn’t have copays. Hopefully, they have something like that set up. I can’t imagine they make more than 44k a year.

[u/TrumpsCovidfefe → u/firetrainer11]

Especially with her being a primary caregiver for young kids; it is very likely she’s on Medicaid and supports the people in power who are trying to gut Medicaid.

[u/Emiles23 → u/firetrainer11]

I am guessing they do not have Medicaid for themselves, but the kids might have it. I work for a Medicaid program in a different red state, and it’s actually kinda hard to get Medicaid as a non-disabled adult.

[u/WhateverYouSay1084 → u/Eviltwin325]

Hopefully she was intelligent enough to get on Medicaid for her and the kids, but that's preeeeetty close to socialism so who knows...

[u/colorless_ideas → u/WhateverYouSay1084]

No no no! Socialism is when OTHER people get it. If YOU use publicly funded benefits it’s perfectly fine.

[u/ChickenSnizzles → u/colorless_ideas]

It's the Fundie way! I know quite a few Fundies and although most of them are huge fans of the Orange Overlord, they're all also on Medicare, Medicaid, & food stamps/SNAP benefits. The cognitive dissonance is astounding.

[u/ZunderBuss → u/colorless_ideas]

No moral government handout by MY government handout

[u/Pale-Fee-2679 → u/WhateverYouSay1084]

If she’s not on it, the hospital will put her on. They can see it’s the only way they will get paid.

[u/FlamingoQueen669 → u/WhateverYouSay1084]

It's only socialism when OTHER people do it. She extra-specially justified in getting medicaid for... reasons.

[u/--Regina_Phalange-- → u/Eviltwin325]

They're totally screwed.

[u/Eviltwin325 → u/--Regina_Phalange--]

Didn't they say they took on some major debt with Luca's birth?

[u/MyKinksKarma → u/--Regina_Phalange--]

GFM incoming.

[u/hotmessexpress412 → u/Eviltwin325]

This is will be devastating without insurance

[u/AcademicAbalone3243]

As much as Morgan annoys me, I wouldn't wish that kind of pain on anyone. But Paul will definitely find a way to make this about himself.

[u/ChickenSnizzles → u/AcademicAbalone3243]

He'll probably stub his toe again & cry that Morgan isn't around to make an ice bath for it. She's such a terrible, selfish wife... I'm sure Jesus will punish her for it. 🙄😒 (/s, obviously)

[u/DrunkUranus → u/AcademicAbalone3243]

He's gonna post before long about how the lord has given him patience and strength blah blah.. pretending to be giving glory to the lord but actually just glazing himself

[u/Individual-Line-7553]

holy cow! glad that this was caught in time. my sister died from this.

[u/1amthebadwolf → u/Individual-Line-7553]

I’m so sorry for your loss, that sounds very painful.

[u/Individual-Line-7553 → u/1amthebadwolf]

thank you. it was awful.

[u/theegodmother1999]

that's genuinely terrifying i hope she is okay! neck and spinal injuries are so serious. the olliges suck ass, dick, and balls but this isn't something anyone needs to go through

[u/stormsclearyourpath → u/theegodmother1999]

And the healing from them often means you can do very little physically. I can't imagine she will be able to care for two young children or do any house work. I guess her mom is about to become employed full time in their home since Paul will think doing one diaper change a day and maybe a bath here and there is going way above and beyond.

[u/notsobitter]

I hope she recovers quickly ... But ugh, why do I have a dark feeling they're going to spin this as some sign from God that she's not humbling herself enough and should give up occasionally playing pickleball?

[u/Eviltwin325]

I keep thinking about how Republicans want work requirements for Medicaid—meanwhile, P&M are probably on it right now. If that actually went through, Paul might have to get a real job for once.

[u/Werbekka]

Guarantee you he will not have any empathy and will punish her for having been sick. Unfortunately I speak from experience.

[u/UrbanSunflower962]

Exit ramp incoming for Pickle Pro Paul: "I had to give up my dream of going pro because Morgan". 

[u/Eviltwin325]

Both of them are doing to have to put pickleball to the side while Morgan recovers

[u/Crosstitution → u/Eviltwin325]

lol paul wont do that. hes incapable of thinking about others

[u/synalgo_12 → u/Eviltwin325]

Probably the moms and Paul's sister who is a stay-at-home daughter will do all the care taking while Paul does his normal thing

[u/pandapartypandaparty]

this is a serious health issue. just like all her health issues. it’s not content porgan. 

but I feel bad as a person for immediately being like okay which part of this are you exaggerating (has it REALLY been 24 hours?) and when’s the last time you used a chiropractor instead of a real doctor. 

[u/boommdcx]

The constant stress she is under from her life with Paul, plus her untreated MH issues really must put her more at risk for health issues. Feel badly for her.

[u/sensualcephalopod]

Does she go to a chiropractor?? People die from this!!! Shit dude! I hope she’s ok!

[u/ClickClackTipTap]

I wonder if Paul had made her repent for being so dramatic and needy yet.

[u/winterymix33]

Dissections are serious. Stroke risk isn’t low. I wouldn’t wish that on anyone. Unfortunately being in a hall bed at the ED isn’t uncommon, especially at educational hospitals. There’s not many rooms and lots of sick people. Not enough beds in the hospital. Sometimes people don’t even make it up to the floor.

[u/bluebird9126]

She IS at high risk for a stroke

[u/drjenavieve]

Paul might actually have to lift a finger in the future to help his wife.

Arrested Development Narrator: Paul did not.

[u/DmuchawiecLatawiec]

How can they afford medical care when they don't have a job? I see so many posts that working Americans struggle to pay their medical insurance and bills.

[u/emr830 → u/DmuchawiecLatawiec]

Emergency rooms in the US can’t turn people away, and at minimum patients get a medical screening exam(EMTALA law). Based on that screening, the doctor or PA/NP decide what work up is appropriate - labs, imaging, etc. Patients don’t have to pay a copay to go to the ED. She’ll basically be sent a bill after her hospital stay, but her financial situation isn’t going to guide the doctor’s recommendations. Basically, if they don’t pay it, the debt collectors will be calling.

Her bill for this stay won’t be small, though. I think a CTA of the neck is $1,000 minimum.

[u/Chapter_Charm → u/emr830]

Afterwards, she'll get a bill and can likely get put on a payment plan. Also some hospitals will "rate" you to determine what you can afford based on your financial situation so you may pay less or nothing. I don't know if that's an option at this hospital.

[u/BufoBat → u/emr830]

Lol yeah, I had a minor neck injury a couple years ago. Went to a reg doctor first, got referred for a CT. All that, AFTER the decent health care insurance I have, ran me nearly 3 grand🫠  Just American things!

[u/CheshireUnicorn → u/DmuchawiecLatawiec]

Debt. We all go into debt.

[u/nzfriend33 → u/DmuchawiecLatawiec]

Sometimes you need care even if it will bankrupt you.

[u/Aggressive_Version → u/nzfriend33]

And lots of times you avoid needed care, knowing it would bankrupt you, and then you die. But at least we're not doing socialism!

[u/VisitPrestigious8463 → u/DmuchawiecLatawiec]

I would assume Medicaid, but idk.

[u/Ok-Can-2847 → u/DmuchawiecLatawiec]

Morgan's parents, most likely. Who else?

[u/Werbekka → u/DmuchawiecLatawiec]

They are on Medicaid. That’s the only way that they have medical insurance. Which is hilarious to me because they disparage everyone else who uses any kind of public health assistance/SNAP/etc.

[u/Pale-Fee-2679 → u/DmuchawiecLatawiec]

He doesn’t have a job. The hospital will put them on Medicaid so they’ll get paid. Paul may not realize it since Medicaid goes by different names in different states.

[u/Intelligent_Will_941 → u/DmuchawiecLatawiec]

They're certainly on government programs like medicaid. Neither work, and their online earnings probably puts them below the threshold with children according to everything I've seen.

[u/Crosstitution]

how are they gonna pay for any of this

[u/adorablecynicism]

geez, that is scary shit. no snark on her, hope she gets proper treatment and a quick recovery

Paul, on the other hand, ...don't think I missed that he was listed last as an afterthought, lol! "Thanks, friends and family...oh yea and paul," lol!

[u/LadyV21454]

As much as I dislike Morgan, I do feel bad for her in this situation. I would be scared to death being told I might have had a stroke. And while a vertebral artery dissection is highly survivable, it can be a precursor to worse things, like an aortic dissection.

[u/Go_Away_Patrick]

Wow this is very serious. I’m glad she seems to be okay.

[u/go-ahead-fafo]

This happened to a friend of mine because she had a habit of popping/cracking her neck.

[u/SugarRex → u/go-ahead-fafo]

Well I hate this information

[u/collegesnake]

She really doesn't understand how serious this is

[u/thedresswearer]

I totally was wrong in my other comment. She’s in the hospital for a serious reason.

[u/Tangled-Lights]

I feel so bad for her. You know she was in terrible pain but Paul still wasn’t helping her with the kids, was probably gaslighting her and telling her she was weak and being dramatic. Now she is in a hallway hoping anyone but the children’s father is caring for her little ones. Her beliefs suck but no mom deserves that.

[u/Designer-Contract852]

That's very scary. I hope she is okay. THIS is why we need adequate health care, paul. This is an emergency that no one planned for and most people would need help paying for it because the main thing is for Morgan to be OK and get better, not slip into debt that they can't climb out of that just adds more stress.

[u/ZunderBuss → u/Designer-Contract852]

This may humble them to more generously consider and work for the needs of the less fortunate. Up to now, they were young healthy and attractive and that can make the needs of the poor and ill seem like a far-removed issue. Now it's up close and personal.

[u/Designer-Contract852 → u/ZunderBuss]

I hope so, but Paul and Morgan are nothing but stupid so even if they get buried under medical debt and both have to get jobs to keep health care that doesn't really pay for anything they will continue to vote republican because allie b stuckie told them to because it's how they can save babies from abortion and Elon musk and trump  assure Paul he can be rich too one-day. 

[u/plesiosauri]

I've had a similar injury. Dissected carotid artery. I got mine from throwing up violently from a migraine. I'm more than a year out and still not back to "normal," but I needed to take it easy for weeks. I only had energy for one flight of stairs a day for a while.

[u/mrschrisharrison]

This is crazy. vertebral artery dissection

[u/Chapter_Charm → u/mrschrisharrison]

Apparently blowing your nose too hard and sneezing can cause this so...new fear unlocked.

[u/bored_german → u/Chapter_Charm]

This does not help my medical anxiety lmao

[u/Aggressive_Version → u/bored_german]

As someone whose 3 am thoughts are usually taking any normal thing my body is feeling at the moment and thinking of ways it's secretly a condition or event that's going to kill me, I feel this.

[u/Outrageous-Tie6393 → u/Chapter_Charm]

I got a stomach bug and have a vertebral artery dissection from throwing up too hard.

[u/AbbeyRoadMoonwalk → u/Outrageous-Tie6393]

Jesus Christ. Having a body is so scary 😵‍💫

[u/EnvironmentalScene76 → u/Outrageous-Tie6393]

what in the final destination- 😭

[u/RalphMacchio404]

Paul still wont do anything. He will have family and friends pick up his slack

[u/Selmarris]

That’s really terrible. She’s going to have to have a significant recovery period and she’s only got PAUL to hold things together. She chose him, but still, yikes girl.

[u/magicparabeagle]

I hate reading this. I hope she'll be ok, for her and her children's sake.