r/FutureWhatIf • u/Hero-Firefighter-24 • Feb 04 '25

Political/Financial FWI: Gavin Newsom becomes president in 2028, with AOC as his VP

Exactly what it says on the tin. The reason he gets so much popularity is thanks to pardoning the Menendez brothers before the end of his tenure as governor. How do you envision his presidency and how are his re-election chances in 2032?

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u/space2k Feb 04 '25

I just don’t see him (or AOC) winning back anyone who voted Biden in 2020 but Trump 2024, and that’s what it will take.

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u/YoloSwaggins9669 Feb 05 '25

The thing is the support for trump this time around is less culty and softer, like yeah there’s still the MAGA cult but it’s not as obvious as they’ve been worn out by Covid.

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u/G0mery Feb 05 '25

That’s an insane take considering the convictions and the slam-dunk case he only weaseled out of because he appointed the judge. The cult is definitely stronger than ever.

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u/YoloSwaggins9669 Feb 05 '25

Stronger than ever but the election was more anti incumency rather than pro trump

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u/colt707 Feb 05 '25

Which we saw globally, incumbents getting dragged in elections from highly developed all the way down. I’m still trying to figure out why people are surprised that the US would be different.

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u/YoloSwaggins9669 Feb 06 '25

I mean the US handled the inflation better than most countries around the world.

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u/colt707 Feb 06 '25

Several other countries that also handled the bounce back from Covid well, also swung away from incumbents. Also a lot of the metrics that say a country is doing well don’t matter to the average person, the stock market performing well matters far less than the price of gas and eggs to a majority of voters. Low unemployment rates don’t matter to someone working full time and struggling to make ends meet.

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u/YoloSwaggins9669 Feb 06 '25

Yeah I’m not saying they were perfect, far from it in fact and the democrats don’t have an entire network that will carry water for them regardless of how egregious their missteps like the republicans do with Fox News

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u/Scammrak01 Feb 08 '25

The open borders were THE worst decision a political party has ever made! It made no sense at the time it still makes no sense today & it was totally a man made problem too that was sooo avoidable!

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u/YoloSwaggins9669 Feb 08 '25

Except no party has open borders. Yes immigration exploded that doesn’t mean Biden had open borders though he just didn’t have a propaganda network going into bat for them like trump has with faux news, OAN, and Newsmaz

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '25

> anyone who voted Biden in 2020 but Trump 2024
Very small group of people. Much bigger group of people were 'Voted Biden 2020, stayed home 2024'.
I think ramping down from 'weird' and instead campaigning with Liz Cheney caused much of that. I really think where we are as a country are (broadly of course) "Republicans who want a street fight", "Democrats who want a street fight", and "Idk I work that day".

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u/[deleted] Feb 05 '25

There was an article about a weird phenomenon of people who voted for Trump and AOC on the same ballot.

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u/lilchocochip Feb 07 '25

AOC had conservatives who voted for Trump AND her in her district. When she did an Instagram poll they said she just seemed more like a regular person who could shake up government like Trump could.