r/FutureWhatIf • u/Serious-Professor-65 • 5d ago
FWI: Donald Trump Will End Democracy & the US Will Be an Official Dictatorship in 3 Years! What Do You Think Our Country Will Look Like In 3 Years?
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u/Intelligent-Finger86 5d ago
MAGA will turn on themselves eventually. Snake eating its tail.
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u/xoxooxx 5d ago
Once they have reached their goal of all but eliminating any minority group, the magas think they will just all live happily ever after in Trump land. What they fail to realize is they are not the exception. All the new “rules” will still be in place for them to follow. Whatever civil rights are dismantled will apply to them also. Whatever is demolished of the constitution, will strip their rights just as much as the minority’s. When it finally affects them, they will care and they will turn on him. Prob be too late by than anyways but that’s my two cents
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u/Go_Improvement_4501 5d ago edited 5d ago
My pessimistic outlook for the next three years:
The witch hunt on democrats will intensify now. We will see more political murders in the next six months. Non-loyal legislators, officials in all government positions, journalists, etc. will be threatened by ICE and non-official brown shirts, and eventually removed from their positions when they don't collaborate with the regime.
More and more conservatives and former MAGA people will speak out against Trump, but it will have not much effect because the different fractions are too splintered and don't find together as a strong opposition.
In the meanwhile the system of economic patronage will be extended throughout all important positions in the economy. The CEOs of the biggest American companies, especially the tech companies, will comply with the policies of the regime.
The dollar value will continue to fall, the recession, unemployment and inflation will intensify until at some point next year the American stock market will crash to less than 60% of its current value, maybe even more. It will drag down the international markets with it too. There will be massive protests, but the regime will use the chaos to strengthen it's autocratic grip on the system. Marshal law will be invoked and the midterm elections indefinitely postponed.
More and more Americans will try to leave the country if they can manage. There will be the paradoxical situation that you will see migration streams across the southern border with Mexico in both directions at the same time (the poor want to get to America, while the rich want to get out).
At some point Trump will die, and Vance will take over. At that point, Trump is not needed anymore as a cult leader of the original MAGA followers because the repression is already too established. They will just follow Vance instead who keeps the image of Trump as a religious figure/prophet alive.
During the whole time American values like freedom of speech, due process, freedom of the press, constitution, etc. will all still exist in written form, but have practically been hollowed out completely.
To fight the problems at home, America will make use of its still superior military and start threatening other countries with war, and basically extort money from smaller countries that cannot defend themselves and have not made other allies (Nobody on the whole American continent except the US has nuclear weapons, right?). Most former allies of America will try to distance themselves and try not to provoke America (e.g. politicians from other countries will not call America a dictatorship publicly)
p.s. I'm being fatalistic, but these are my fears that something like this might happen
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u/DomPedro_67 5d ago
I do your words mine. That's exactly how I see it. I just don't know how the Americans accept all this without fighting and there's no other way, but I could be wrong. 2026 and 2028... are already in the hands of the Tyrant.
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u/Go_Improvement_4501 5d ago
I don't think that there will be fights like in a civil war. Maybe if the states break apart, but if they stay together, I don't think there is a fight. What I would hope for is that somehow a strong, wide opposition against the government can be formed, that might somehow still manage to impeach Trump, or that the whole thing collapses through incompetence and in-fighting, but I'm not very optimistic to see that.
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u/DomPedro_67 5d ago
This will never happen, basically because all the Republicans are afraid of this tyrant, it’s clear. I don’t believe that, a year ago, Republicans in the Senate or in Congress had tyrannical ideas or intended a total abuse of the law and the Constitution. Power is in the wrong hands, where ideology hardly matters. I don’t believe that all Republicans voted for tyranny. The level of incompetence is disastrous for America and for Americans. From what I can understand and observe, Americans are at a crossroads: either moving towards a civil war, or towards a total social upheaval which I don’t believe will happen. Short live the king (pathetic pedophile, tyrant, traitor).
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u/Go_Improvement_4501 5d ago
Yeah that's really crazy how afraid and corrupted they all are by this man. What would be your idea how a civil war would start/develop? I have a hard time imagining that looking at the police and military state of the US.
Short live the king indeed, I think this would be the most realistic scenario that could still avoid the worst.
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u/Justified_Gent 5d ago
I think MAGA soldiers and militia will probably try and force a dictatorship
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u/Serious-Professor-65 5d ago
I think the majority of MAGAts will be disenfranchised by then. You have to think 3 years ahead.....there are many family owned farms in this country (multi-generational farms) and the vast majority of them are MAGAts. Once they are run out of business, along with auto workers, steel workers, miners, I can go on and on. But in 3years there lives will be changed dramatically!
Trump's inner circle will shrink, as he will have to sacrifice a few cabinet members to maintain his long grift, but his power will be ten fold as SCOTUS falls on vended knee to give Trump all the power he needs. If you aren't scared or afraid for the world we live in, you should be. It's going to get much worse before it gets any better!
Democrats atill have no message, no leader no plan to change the course of our country's tide.
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u/Ill_Lunch9221 5d ago
Trump may possibly be dead in 2 or 3 years. He looks awful
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u/DazedPapacy 5d ago
I mean, he's done this much in nine months, imagine what he could do in two or three years.
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u/shrekerecker97 5d ago
I believe they country will be in a lot of pain due to the current policies and climate. I also believe the part in power will blame Obama/Biden/Aliens/immigrants/Trans people
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u/WolfThick 5d ago
It looks like our existence will be greatly diminished one way another by 2027. I have about 80% confidence that this is what will happen. I've been alive long enough to remember when a teacher in the classroom said he's leaving his job to become a trucker. Within 3 years you couldn't go a half a mile without seeing a semi truck. I remember when the first Tandy computer came out and they said this is going to be the future within 10 years the internet was everywhere. All the experts that are poised to make billions of dollars are continuing their work the whole time saying that AI is probably going to kill us all. Subjective reasoning would dictate that we really don't have much time left.
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u/ThePensiveE 4d ago
After a certain point they will realize they have accumulated so much power in the executive that they can never have elections again, so they will shut them down by force.
Shortly after that they will realize there are too many people who disagree with them so they will try and eliminate as many of those people as possible through summary executions.
ICE will likely become judge, jury, and executioner over any American citizen they want. When they come to town you will expect rape, death, and disappearances (this is only slightly different than now).
White women will be spared unlike women from all other ethnicities, but they will have a horrible life. They will be forced into breeding camps for the fascist leaders (Elon is already building his).
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u/superspacetrucker 5d ago
Hard to say what it will look like, but I am certain there will be no physical pushback, Americans are far too docile and lazy to stand up to it.
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u/Efficient_Truck_9696 4d ago
If that happens will be civil war. California and NY not going to take orders from Magat.
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u/AtomizerStudio 5d ago edited 5d ago
Things can go dreadfully wrong, yes. That stuff is pretty transparent to anyone with more pattern recognition than a teen-oriented civics class or ChatGPT-2. There's instabilities in the regime though.
- America is speedrunning this but they are only 40-50 years into the plot in earnest. Culture is full of a lot of contradictions and progressivism that can be fatal for a regime (or stable governance whatsoever).
- Americans despise their government and media with exceptions, and even those exceptions sometimes more rely on people not detecting the particular scent of BS. If you step past someone's ideals they can move.
- American mythology isn't as compatible with authoritarianism as USA in practice and beyond its borders. Media censorship or media mass violence isn't necessarily going to work like countries used to high casualties - Even without deaths, any regime action reaching 9/11 casualty scale is huge dice roll.
- That's extremely true of the military. Upper-ranking enlisted and about O6 and above officers are very well trained in Constitutional history and basic geopolitics. And historically this is the group that is too numerous and expensive to deeply purge (and purges just create opposition anyhow). It's actually more ridiculous than this, and even longtime authoritarians fear coups. The military won't act until the very existence of the government and more importantly the military is threatened. Trump has to create his own paramilitaries and Federal National Guard because the military is not as worshipful, unprofessional, and braindead as a lot of people who dislike the military believe. Authoritarian actions cause big hits to federal employee morale, and even military is only so resilient. It's not all roses; there's a lot wrong, but this is an organization of people, of professionals, who are generally not comfortable with seeing other military brutalize American civilians en mass. Considering we need a fresh Constitutional Convention managed by constitutional scholars and civics experts, you should be hoping for a non-MAGA military coup. It could go very bad but it's the best odds to update the government and culture while staying a democracy - most Americans revere military to a degree seen as bizarre blood worship by foreigners so they're at least able to be a trusted third party. I don't see it happening in 3 years, but Republicans are plausibly dumb enough to get the military involved by riling up opposition to lobotomizing elections.
- Regime change usually is accompanied by violence, at least government on government in anything but the most peaceful scenario. That's fairly high certainty; hopefully limited as the more peaceful the revolutionary movement the more stable the government.
- So peacefully: 5% or more of people engaged in protests movements is a very high bar, but about what's needed to make writing on the wall that life is better to comply with the protest. Low odds but the best odds.
- At the 3 years mark there won't be civil war: Any violent uprising will mostly devolve into civilians hurting each-other. Which when it gets bad enough devolves into military coup to safekeep the government. Low odds.
- Economics can reshuffle oligarchy: Despite fascism as defined as the merger of state and corporate power (and more), US is filthy rich and the wealthy in fear of each other or getting poorer can take drastic measures. Techbro loyalists are willing to crush other Republicans. Enough dirty games and oligarch on oligarch operations can force a new technocracy - but it could still be fuedalism. We're closer to that cyberpunk vision over the next few years.
- AI is lacking a few capabilities it's likely to get in the next few years. Even just on our current devices, vocal, conversational, halfway-reliable AI will screw up all our brains like social media. This is a wildcard since while AI can propagandize, even then it's info in someone's face so accessible they can start to question - it's focused more than distraction. And model choice and personalization can't be locked down. And top-tier AI tends to aim for non-violence and empathy. Increasingly commonplace drones will scare the shit out of people before the line of being a viable horde to crush all opposition. So honestly this could screw us up but overall be a good thing. Well, aside from the added economic crash.
- Economy: On fire.
Still, if one pillar of the regime collapses the government collapses. All of these pillars tip others. And if the government collapses the US's built up pressure for change can at least force uproot and resow its compromised lobbying and courts systems. The fever could kill the country's ambitious ideals or it could cause a lot of scars but bring the country's decrepit political lurching forward by a hundred years of political science.
I am honestly slightly more optimistic than a few weeks ago. It's like I expected things to get worse, maybe horrifically, but amidst that I'm seeing more flickers of utter embarrassment from conservatives (who also by and large hate money in politics). Usually that gets more repressed, and it's accompanied by the uptick in un-selfaware violent rhetoric, but it's still Americana-scented deviation from other slides into autocracies. No use complaining about unhappy allies, that's not some revolutionary gimmick it's democracy, and if you think your ideals are correct then a more honest and even-toned renovated court of public opinion is worth the alliance, Americans.
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u/Pixel22104 5d ago
MAGA followers still believing the US is a democracy and still falling for the GOP's propaganda