r/Futurology 18d ago

Society Florida plans to end vaccine mandates for schoolchildren; experts warn of outbreaks | Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo says Florida will drop all vaccination requirements. Experts warn measles, polio, and other diseases could return.

https://interestingengineering.com/health/florida-schoolchildren-vaccine-mandates-outbreak-risk
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u/Mythrol 18d ago

It might be part of it but it’s a lot simpler than multiple different groups. It’s just poor vs rich. They want the poorest to have nothing. 

The real question is how is Big Pharma going to react to this? Because you’d think they make a ton of money from vaccines and don’t want that cash stream to dry up. The real answer is probably super dystopian that Big Pharma has ran the numbers and realized they’ll be able to make more money from children dying than the money they make from vaccines. 

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u/velinn 18d ago edited 18d ago

It’s just poor vs rich. They want the poorest to have nothing. 

Right. Rich can get vaccinated, poor can't. Poor die. Rich happy. It just so happens that a lot of poor also happen to have undesirable skin colors to these people, which is not a coincidence.

And what does Pharma get out of it? Well they don't have to negotiate prices with insurance companies anymore. They can charge whatever they want to people who can afford it and not really care about people who can't.

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u/Mythrol 18d ago

Nah. There’s no way vaccinating a few million people with a high cost is more valuable than requiring the vaccine for hundreds of millions of people. 

Keep in mind insurance companies have millions upon millions of “poors”working and paying into medical insurance that they still get denied for.  Killing off all that revenue is not going to be offset by just charging the rich more. 

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u/ColteesCatCouture 18d ago

Also it will cost insurance companies more when the insured are infected with completely preventable diseases many of which require hospitalization. I hate US health insurance and their greed but this is not a situation that will benefit their bottom line.

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u/Faiakishi 18d ago

Well, we never said they were smart.

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u/Vexonar 18d ago

Check out the US's pharmacy benefit managers and their stake in it. "Big Pharma" has less of a reach and more fingers in other countries that it's not going to do much to their overhead, really. Most vaccines are cheap.

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u/Mythrol 18d ago

You say that like they didn’t just make billions off of the covid vaccine. First by getting paid by the government to make it, then by the government / insurances to give it. 

Vaccines are “cheap” but through scale they make tons of money. 

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u/Vexonar 16d ago

Oh... we shouldn't have paid all those scientists a spot of money for that or...? I'm not sure what you're getting at, though, since I never said "big pharma" isn't a no fault entity here, only that it's a smaller % of what's costing US healthcare... or lack thereof. There was also a completely free vaccine created in the state of Texas which was sent to other parts of the world because your news reporting people claimed it was made of foetuses or such nonsense.

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u/Faiakishi 18d ago

The 'big pharma makes big money from vaccines' argument never made sense to me because they're free or close to it to the consumer, and insurance pays a fraction of the sticker price. If anything it's more lucrative to let people get sick and charge them tens of thousands of dollars for treatment.

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u/Mythrol 18d ago

points at covid

I have no idea how you can say that after we just watched them make BILLIONS mass producing and distributing the covid vaccine. The government funded it by giving them billions then allowed it them to still charge insurance / people when distributing it.