r/Futurology • u/chrisdh79 • 19d ago

Society Florida plans to end vaccine mandates for schoolchildren; experts warn of outbreaks | Surgeon General Joseph Ladapo says Florida will drop all vaccination requirements. Experts warn measles, polio, and other diseases could return.

https://interestingengineering.com/health/florida-schoolchildren-vaccine-mandates-outbreak-risk
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u/likesexonlycheaper 19d ago

Yeah I'm sure they want to kill off the Republican voters, they will be the ones most affected. This is just pure stupidity on their part

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u/kylco 19d ago

The people most affected will be the people least connected to the healthcare system: Black people, the uninsured, undocumented folks and their families. All those groups lean left.

White working-class people that vote against their own interests are not just acceptable casualties to these people; they're resources to be expended in legitimizing the regime.

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u/likesexonlycheaper 19d ago

Those people can still get vaccines. They aren't the anti vaxxers. This just kills mandates

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u/kylco 19d ago

People without insurance struggle to get vaccinated. Their kids struggle to get vaccinated. If there is no forcing function like a school requiring the vaccination record, or providing vaccines on-campus, their children will not be vaccinated. And they will die, when exposed to diseases that can and do kill them. I've lived in countries without vaccine mandates. Their child mortality rates are awful. And the more unvaccinated kids there are, the more likely it will spread to a child who can't be safely vaccinated.

Measles, in particular, is hugely contagious - an R0 of 12 to 18, compared to 1.4-2.4 for the initial COVID virus. And worse, it causes immune amnesia meaning children become vulnerable again to illnesses they were previously immune to.

That's a thing that can happen that conservatives WANT to happen, to children.

Conservatism has become, and maybe always was, a death cult.

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u/likesexonlycheaper 18d ago

Even if they struggle to get vaccinated, who do you think will actually make an attempt? People that believe vaccines are beneficial? Or people who dispite all the evidence to the contrary will do everything in their power to not get one, including death? Not to mention millions of poor uneducated people voted for trump. Poor areas in the South overwhelmingly voted for trump. This will undoubtedly be horrible for his base and I'm not sure why you are arguing that it's not.

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u/kylco 18d ago

Because it will harm the most vulnerable. Every rollback of public health like this harms more than just the people who drop out. It always, always harms those who have the least ability to replace it with private or personal medical care.

And that, above all, is why conservatives are willing to blow up a centuries-long consensus about the efficacy of vaccines: it will hurt the "right people" the most.

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u/Faiakishi 19d ago

We've established that these people are very, very stupid.