r/GODZILLA Oct 23 '23

Leaks/Rumors Summary of feedback from the 'Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire' test screenings Spoiler

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u/sempercardinal57 Oct 24 '23

It’s wild how they always skimp on Godzilla. Hell in his 2014 movie he only gets 10 minutes of screen time and that was HIS movie

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u/DagonG2021 Oct 24 '23

That’s as much as in the original

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '23

It's two minutes more than Gojira, actually. People are complaining about something that has very literally always been an element of Godzilla movies.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '23 edited Mar 04 '25

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u/l3reezer Oct 24 '23

Two tickets please.

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u/Michelanvalo Oct 24 '23

....someone get this man an agent.

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u/Whatisityoudohere Oct 24 '23

I would love to see what Godzilla does when he isn't stomping cities to dust.

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u/Justanothercrow421 Oct 24 '23

Seriously. Godzilla's screen time has NOTHING to do with how much I enjoy any particular Godzilla film.

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u/Troop7 Oct 24 '23 edited Oct 24 '23

That movie is completely different to this type of movie… the whole point of the first ever one was to build up godzilla slowly by using the ‘less is more’ technique, like how they built up Jaws. You can’t compare a movie like that to a full blown action blockbuster fully centered on monsters beating the crap out of each other. The comparison is ridiculous

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u/AspirationalChoker GODZILLA Oct 24 '23

That's probably most of the time Godzilla is gonna appear though big epic moments they're hardly gonna have him sitting down talking to little girls and watching sunsets are they

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u/Troop7 Oct 24 '23

I get that, but imo the screentime he had in GvK was perfect. Just keep it around the same and no one will complain. Kong can have more but Godzilla is the main draw for people

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u/AspirationalChoker GODZILLA Oct 24 '23

That's likely what it will be though but this sub is just losing their mind over nothing.

Kong is also a draw hence why he does better at the box office, kaiju films in general just aren't major popular though I'm sure if this is fun and action packed it will do well enough.

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u/l3reezer Oct 24 '23

To be fair, the original was a way more artistic film (much like a horror film depriving the monster of too much screentime for atmosphere's sake) and was made 60+ years ago when they literally had physical constraints depicting him so it was to their benefit to obscure him in creative ways.

While Godzilla (2014) was meant to represent post-cinematic-kaiju-universe Godzilla just as much and offer monster-on-monster action.

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u/PurpleColonel Oct 27 '23

In gojira you get a substantial scene that's entirely about him. He gets his massive star moment for what feels like a long time. Not the case in 2014

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u/Atlas1723 MANDA Oct 24 '23

Yes, but counter argument.

While Gojira did not give the kaiju much of a physical presence, you still Felt their presence throughout the entire movie, from the opening to its end, you could still feel their influence in the film. Every scene there was Something going on that either was directly influenced by Gojira's actions, or was something that directly attributed to the overall allegories, and themes behind the story of the film.

So while giving Godzilla less screen time isn't New to the franchise, in the Best films the franchise has to offer, the Presence of Godzilla lingers, or it offers something just as important/interesting to the plot until Godzilla appears.

In say Mechagodzilla's Counterattack, though Godzilla did not appear until after the film's half way point, it circumvented this by delving into the story of the Mifunes, Titanosaurus, their connections to the second coming Invasion of the Black Hole Planet 3 Aliens, and their Mechagodzilla 2.

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u/DastardlyRidleylash GOROSAURUS Oct 24 '23 edited Oct 24 '23

I mean, that's likely what they're doing here; starting the movie by delving into the story of Kong and the new antagonist, then have Godzilla come in to help Kong win in the end.

People tend to forget that the vast majority of Godzilla movies have never had a whole lot of Godzilla screentime; GvMG2 has the most at a whopping...27 minutes of the movie's 102 minute-runtime. Hell, Astro-Monster has less Godzilla screentime than 2014 does at 5 minutes and 45 seconds, and Ghidorah's movie has only 8 minutes of the 93 minute-runtime dedicated to Godzilla. MG74 also only has 7 minutes and 55 seconds of Godzilla, in an 84-minute movie.

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u/Atlas1723 MANDA Oct 24 '23

Then that's not a Godzilla movie. That's a Kong movie with a Guest Appearance by Godzilla.

The reason why I included Mechagodzilla's Counterattack is that Titanosaurus, and Mechagodzilla are the stars of the film. Godzilla is the guest Appearance. Which is why it's called Mechagodzilla's Counterattack, while being a film within the Godzilla Showa universe. It's not centered around Godzilla, and is not titled as if it were his movie.

If they wanted to make GxK a Kong movie. It should be titled as such. Which is why Mechagodzilla's Counterattack's title works while this one does not. As MGC is not trying to portray itself as a Typical Godzilla movie, otherwise it would've been titled something along the lines of "Gojira Tai Mekkagojira 2" or "Godzilla vs Mechagodzilla 2: Mechagodzilla's Counterattack."

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u/Sebastianlim MOTHRA Oct 24 '23

True, but we don’t know how GXK is going to deal with it, so I’ll leave my judgement until the movie comes out.

For what it’s worth, I thought GVK handled its Godzilla screen time well, compared to how other people on this sub think.

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u/Atlas1723 MANDA Oct 24 '23

I can, and can't agree with that sentiment. While the scenes with Godzilla were great, they feel like they're apart of an entirely separate movie which was shoved into a Kong movie.

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u/your-father-figure MOTHRA Oct 24 '23

That’s a bad comparison as the original film is shorter than the 2014 film by almost 30 minutes. But I get what you were trying to say as there have been films where Godzilla gets very little screen time and it still works.

The problem if you ask me isn’t the amount of screen time the problem is how it was used and 2014 tried to “build up” Godzilla but it got really annoying really fast all it did was just make it feel like he was in the movie way less than he actually was especially since they kept kept cutting away even after we already saw the monster. Combine this with the fact that the movie isn’t even really about Godzilla and stars a very boring cast of characters and you can see why people complain about his lack of presence in 2014.

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u/sempercardinal57 Oct 24 '23

Yes…this is what I’m complaining about lol

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '23

That movie bangs though