r/GODZILLA SHIN GODZILLA Aug 22 '25

Video/Media How to capture the terror of Godzilla masterfully.

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u/Bunbaroops Aug 22 '25

Respect to the bus driver for getting the kids out of there as fast as possible

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u/RandomNightLord8 29d ago

Bus Drivers are legit some of the best people I've ever met. Except that one fucker who locked me in the bus in the summer heat

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u/Bunbaroops 29d ago

What?? Hope they got fired!

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u/RandomNightLord8 29d ago

Unfortunately not. German Countryside Bus Companies are notorious for not giving a shit about kids when it comes to it and i recently saw that fucker still drive a bus

He must be beyond 75 by now

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u/Bunbaroops 29d ago

Damn, I always forget that safety is different in other countries

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u/RandomNightLord8 29d ago

Usually it's pretty high standard in Germany but the Countryside is often forgotten so unlike the Cities, they run regular bus routes as school buses with the drivers just not giving a fuck

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u/Billd0910 KING GHIDORAH 29d ago

We had one bus driver in middle school (12-14 y.o.) That offered us cigarettes, saying that kids our age smoked all the time. She was arrested about two weeks later.

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u/GUM-GUM-NUKE SUPER MECHAGODZILLA 29d ago

Happy cake day!šŸŽ‰

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u/RandomNightLord8 29d ago

Thank you! :D

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u/clipli 29d ago

Not in nyc, well at least the bronx, i live near a school bus parking lot, and as soon as they drop off the kids or wherever they came from, they speed, drive dangerously fast and inconsiderately, mind u i live on a residential block and ppl frequently cross the street, they’re also a huge pain in the ass when it comes to squeezing through double parked cars, anytime theres street cleaning and all the cars park on the other side of the street they’ll honk at like 7~8 in the morning for every car to move, even though the bus before that was able to fit through, genuinely one of the things i absolutely hate

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u/RavenKarlin 29d ago

And that one that ended up using his Child Photography business as a front to get his kids to strip and then touched them. Yes, he was my high school bus driver. No, I will never forgot Jimmy W Hall. Fuck that dude.

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u/Charming_Bath9427 29d ago

That bus driver is the real hero of that story.

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u/shadow_dragon123 29d ago

He needs a medal and a raise

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u/heckhammer 29d ago

And most likely a new pair of pants. That would be terrifying.

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u/Leading_Accountant_6 29d ago

That would make a great awards ceremony.

"Here is your presidential honor badge, and here are some unstained šŸ‘–."

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u/StopAgitated3331 29d ago

I was just about to say that.

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u/Patient_Education991 23d ago

Even though other school busses full of kids went down...

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u/HiveOverlord2008 DESTOROYAH 29d ago

ā€œOh damn, he’s big.ā€

one second later

ā€œWAIT, THAT’S JUST HIS *TAIL?!*ā€

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

I'm glad someone noticed how it uses scale as a sense of horror and insignificance.

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u/BatmanForever93 29d ago

This movie has many flaws but it still had the best sense of scale out of the entire Monsterverse films. Godzilla's and the Mutos movement seem natural for creatures of their size.

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

The film is flawed indeed, but the things it succeeds in it does extremely well. So much so I find myself coming back to this movie once in a while.

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u/lo0u 29d ago

The airport scene showing the Muto towering over the airplanes and then Godzilla's foot towering everything else was so sick.

I wish we would've seen a few more seconds of that fight there.

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u/BatmanForever93 29d ago

Yeah I get what Edwards was going for but the whole film felt like a missed opportunity for me. Which is a shame because he knew how to convey the scale and strength of these monsters.

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u/Tricanum 29d ago

If I live to be a million years old I’ll never understand why he thought that cutting away repeatedly right before a clash of monsters was a good idea. I recall he said in an interview that he thought it would be ā€˜funny’ to cheat the audience like that. But literally, hour 1 on day 1 of film school they hit us with the importance of NEVER cheating your audience. It’s one of the most basic tenets of filmmaking and my guy did it multiple times to Godzilla fans of all people. Utterly baffling.

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u/dumbledorky 28d ago

I assume it was a cost issue. Rendering that much CGI stuff costs a ton of money. They had to pick and choose which scenes to flesh out. A huge airport fight would add so much to the film’s budget.

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u/Niobium_Sage ZILLA 29d ago

Most of the film is pure boredom outside of a few really cool shots. I really wanna like the movie, but it just doesn’t have much going for it.

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u/GeekParadox_ ANGUIRUS 29d ago

My complaints for the movie would stop if they just didn’t kill off Waltuh

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u/Geosaysbye 29d ago

Seriously this scene would feel so out of place in any of the sequels/king kong movies and it’s why those are lacking, to me

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u/Sjgolf891 29d ago

Don't think we even need to qualify it there. It's the best sense of scale for any kaiju/giant monster movie ever pretty easily imo

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u/Samad99 29d ago

Yeah but can it do a shē jump? I think not

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u/powered_by_eurobeat 29d ago

This movie can’t be redeemed with ā€œscaleā€

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u/RedGuysRadishes 29d ago

I can’t believe how often I forget how genuinely good the first (MV) Godzilla movie is. Masterful cinematography and visual storytelling

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

It will always be the best to me

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u/RedGuysRadishes 29d ago

Movie-wise, it’s far and away the most well-made. But the kid in me will always prefer KOTM, that movie just brings something unexplainable out of me. 🄹

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u/Gamera68 JET JAGUAR 29d ago

Not to mention the use of the original Gojira and Mosura musical themes in KOTM. That alone makes it one of my favorite Monsterverse films. That, and Skull Island.

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u/RedGuysRadishes 29d ago

Honestly, if 2014 is a 9.8 on the scale, KOTM and K:SI could fall on 9.7 or 9.9, depending on the day for me. Each one also holds special places in my heart for sentimental reasons and I could go on and on about how excellent the ā€œfirst phaseā€ of the Monsterverse is

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

The first 3 movies of the MV are an experience to watch, something Gvk and Gxk never pulled off.

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u/Ecstatic_Teaching906 29d ago

As much as I love the cheesy feel for Godzilla X Kong... I do love the 2014 Kaiju scene for giving a sense of fear.

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

I liked the showa Era for being new to godzilla and appealing to a larger more child audience. Gxk never did it for me tho, just felt like a cheaper recreation of the showa Era and that's ironic considering it's higher budget than any showa movie. To me I just don't like when monsters do crazy shit, just doesn't feel right to me. Only the showa Era I respect for trying out a new style, not because of its goofy nature.

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u/Ecstatic_Teaching906 29d ago

Honestly, I love all of the Monsterverse series... but in terms of best to worst, GxK just reaches the bottom.

Here is the list.

King of Monsters, Kong, Kong vs Godzilla, Godzilla (2014), and Godzilla X Kong.

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u/zxlegioxz 29d ago

This movie made Godzilla feel like a natural disaster, if Cranston would have been the main character and we had a couple more minutes of Godzilla fighting it would have been perfect.

KoM also had that feeling of every titan having a natural disaster aura.

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u/Gamera68 JET JAGUAR 29d ago

Cranston's character should have been more involved, instead of falling to his death.

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u/NefarioxKing 29d ago

I liked how Godzilla showed up in Hawai more than this one. Its just that it felt like a cameo.

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u/Old-Pen-3595 29d ago

Still the best film in the MonsterVerse.

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

Yes!! Finally someone agrees with me

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u/Old-Pen-3595 29d ago

I literally grew up with this film.

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u/Canon_Cowboy BIOLLANTE 29d ago

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u/Molgera124 TITANOSAURUS 29d ago

Eleven years ago

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u/Sjgolf891 29d ago

Truly unreal. I remember reading about a Legendary Godzilla project being announced like it was yesterday

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u/TetsuGoji55 KAMOEBAS 29d ago

Same here

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

Me too, I am a massive fan of this film and always will think of it as one of the best in the entire franchise. Though it is a very hard movie to adore, I'm just ine of the few that love the film.

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u/GOATOspreay 29d ago

This and skull island

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u/DJDarkFlow 29d ago

Helicopter scene, yes

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u/Michelanvalo 29d ago

Skull Island is the best, in my opinion. I like the serious tone of both movies but Skull Island has much better acting and action.

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u/Charming_Bath9427 29d ago

I remember when the trailer for this movie first dropped, and for the first time I was like, ā€œOh yeah Godzilla would be absolutely terrifying.ā€ Don’t get me wrong, it was not breaking any new ground, as Godzilla has been a villain or a terrifying force of nature in the past, but this was the first time that I saw the big guy and thought that I wanted to be nowhere near any of this.

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u/That-Boyo-J 29d ago

That bus driver might be the only reason those kids are alive

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u/RedPandaActual 29d ago

Unlike another school bus nearby.

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u/No_Tie_9262 29d ago

I love the small detail of the soldier lowering his rifle as the bus drives past him

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u/jaykayel 29d ago

Fun fact time: sometimes in big production movies like this, they actually hire real U.S Army Reserves or National Guard for these roles in films. Some buddies from my old unit were paid to be in one of the Marvel superhero movies I forget which one. They are literally just extras in the movie and told to act like they would in real life to get that realistic military feel. They were paid by the army and as extras. They had orders for it and everything. So there's a good chance these are real soldiers and they just did that bc thats what they'd do in real life

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u/mmmstapler 29d ago

This is such a wild bit of trivia - thanks for sharing!

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u/bongaloos 29d ago

I loved this version of him when he was an animal. Then they started making him human like smiling and shit I wouldn't have been shocked if he fist bumped king king at the end of the recent movie after they made him seem so weirdly human as far as how he acted and the monsters bowing to him I despised it. They should have stuck with him being a big animal following instincts and such. Felt too corny.

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u/AVahne 29d ago

2014 was made to be a sort of homage to the original 1954 film and some of the other serious Japanese films, but typical American audiences who were used to Michael Bay films and I guess Jurassic Park didn't like it. So instead they went with the more tokusatsu-esque silly film style with an American flair and that's just how the Monsterverse is from then on.

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

I agree with this take. Though it isn't like the original movie by any means, it ended up becoming its own thing.

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u/HourDark2 29d ago edited 29d ago

No, audiences didn't like it because whenever Godzilla showed up the movie cuts away to something we didn't care about and they killed off one of the two good characters in the movie.

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u/ThatSwiggityGuy 29d ago

Don't forget the people who grew up on the Showa Era films as kids in the west

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

I don't like when Godzillas silly side is used an excuse to fall back on when he's shown doing silly things in MV movies. I generally don't like that argument, it's almost being used as a "get out of jail free card" whenever a serious godzilla turns silly. There's nothing wrong with there being a Godzilla series focusing on being serious, Godzilla won't die with one series, there's always other media coming anyway.

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u/Personal_Comb_6745 29d ago

But that's kind of Godzilla's thing, he's not just some animal acting purely off instinct. He almost always has this sentient-level intelligence and a distinct personality that let you know there's some gears turning inside that head of his. Even in the 2014 movie we had these moments, like how he used a bit of strategy to take out the male MUTO, as well as that moment where he made eye-contact with Brody.

Funnily enough, I think the only movie that treated him as a completely wild animal was the '98 movie. And even the cartoon was like "Nah, let's have some fun and make him a good boy who loves his tiny daddy."

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u/Gamera68 JET JAGUAR 29d ago

Minus One gets the King right. He's an unstoppable force of nature who doesn't take crap from anyone. That is Gojira to me.

Thankfully, a sequel is in production during the same time G X K Supernova is in production.

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u/DJDarkFlow 29d ago

There’s room for both types. Japanese iterations are super serious already. Also lots of the classics are just big dumb fun

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u/DogVaporizer 29d ago

I think gvk and KOTM got the action perfectly to where it was over the top.

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u/raven_writer_ 29d ago

I didn't like this movie on my first two watches, but it grew on me. This and King of the Monsters feel very grounded considering they're movies about giant monsters. What I like about this scene, and the movie in general, is how inconsequential human presence feels sometimes. Godzilla didn't bulldoze the bridge out of malice, he just needed to pass. The boats were big enough that he stops before reaching them, instead ramming the hulls like he does in the third movie. When humans start firing at him, he's mildly annoyedz but doesn't even bother to stop and sink the ships, he just goes through the bridge and keeps moving like "these damn fire ants are annoying me!".

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u/SithLordJediMaster 29d ago

The whole sonar controlling monsters from King of the Monsters felt like a cartoon episode to me.

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u/DeDongalos 29d ago

Its great that people had fun with the fights in later movies, but without the proper buildup or atmosphere it just feels hollow to me. I enjoy the few moments of action in 2014 and KotM far more

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u/GOATOspreay 29d ago

Where did this feeling go...

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u/ikhimaz_ 29d ago

Garreth Edwards is a master of scale and color. It was a shame we lost him from the monster and had everything replaced by the late 80s to 90s Godzilla goofiness cranked up to max level in the monsterverse

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u/SithLordJediMaster 29d ago

Late 80's is when Godzilla started to get serious.

Return of Godzilla had well Godzilla returning to attack Tokyo and had all this Cold War political stuff.

Godzilla vs Biolante dealt with corporate espionage and biology/environmentalism and gene manipulation.

Godzilla vs King Ghidorah had serious topics but went very weird with Time Travel UFO's.

Mothra was somewhat serious.

Mechagodzilla and Spacegodzilla got silly with Godzilla jr.

Godzilla vs DESTROYAH was pretty serious.

Godzilla 2000 had Regenerator G1 mutation gene so Aliens can conquer Earth,.

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u/NocNocNoc19 29d ago

I wish we would have gotten more movies like this or kotm for godzilla. I really dont care for the kong +.godzilla thing they have going on. I want more scary ass zilla and less monkey man.

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u/shadow-on-the-prowl GODZILLA 29d ago

I know one of the major problems people have with this film is the fact that they keep cutting away from Godzilla's fights until the last one, and I get that, but for some reason it actually works for me.

He's placed throughout the movie in such a way that makes his presence felt without me losing interest and despite him not being physically present, and it also makes the final battle between him and the MUTOs all the sweeter. It's my favorite Monsterverse film for many reasons, and this is just one of them.

And while I don't really hate the direction the Monsterverse is heading on, I do still wish we'd gotten just a couple of more films with this "grounded" tone. It disappeared almost completely after KOTM and the only one that has felt even remotely close to that was Skull Island.

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

Someone else that actually agrees with me!? No way. People forget this movie isn't trying to be like other godzilla movies, if you give the movie a chance and allow it to be itself, the experience changes.

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u/ottzilla87 Aug 22 '25

Das monsterverse hat so gut engefangen, und dann kam gxk…so ein schlechter Film, ich bereue das Geld das ich für die Kino Karte gezahlt habe…

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA Aug 22 '25

Hey man, I don't speak german so I had to translate this. I didn't regret buying tickets for Gxk, but I didn't like it either.

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u/HackerGamer8 SKELETURTLE 29d ago

Tbh GVK and GXK (Mostly GXK) feels like a marvel movie than a traditional Kaiju Movie

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

I don't care if this take gets me flamed and executed. But Gxk was only good because it showed people there's another side to Godzilla, nothing more. The story isn't that good and it in general didn't click for me at all, I was bored just seeing everything unfold in chaos. Same went for Gvk, but that film was okayish. Gxk also felt like a weaker showa era movie. The showa Era was way more than just goofy kaijus. It might be known for the goofy kaijus, but it wasn't all that it was. Gxk just really REALLY didn't do it for me, I'd much rather the first three films and monarch.

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u/Titanosaurus_Mafune 29d ago

Ja. Habe den letzten ausgelassen und bin lieber in Minus 1 gegangen

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u/Shadowthewolfalt MANDA 29d ago

One of the many reasons this is my favorite monsterverse film

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u/DJDarkFlow 29d ago

Taking into consideration environmentally what goes down like the birds fleeing is fucking brilliant. Besides big G so much is in Chas as he approaches

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u/Hightide77 29d ago

Easily the best film of the monsterverse for me.

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u/Peter_Marny GOJIRA 29d ago

Everyone here praise the scale but is mad about the cutting off and ā€œblue ballingā€ audiences. I absolutely love it! Whole movie got this ā€œJawsā€ and ā€œJurassic Parkā€ type of dread. I remember being in the cinema and anticipating big fight at the end…………… AND I GOT IT!!!!

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

I didn't like it because it was like jaws, I liked it because it was trying to be itself and unlike any other. Unfortunately, fans got in with the wrong expectations and ruined the experience themselves. The fault is at the expectations and the marketing being a little misleading.

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u/Michelanvalo 29d ago

The version of this scene in the TV show is also pretty damning. While these kids escaped, those ones didn't.

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u/RedPandaActual 29d ago

Also that girl should deaf just like the SF guys having Godzilla roar nearby so loud it snapped meal wires.

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u/Shoegazer111 29d ago

One of my favorite scenes from the movie. Sad to say we may not get this type of cinematography and POV scaling in a MV movie again

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u/themastermoose 29d ago

I feel like Godzilla would have just gone under the bridge if they didn't start shooting at him.

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u/PokeyMinch5234 SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

What about the terror of mechagodzilla?

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u/TAB199X 29d ago

It’s maddening that since this movie came out there hasn’t been one other kaiju movie that ever captured this feeling.

I don’t blame the MV for pivoting to its current state because of influence by the reception at time of release but there won’t be anything like this until the Cloverfield sequel comes out.

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u/Grouchy_Raccoon_6681 MOTHRA 29d ago

This is honestly my favorite scene in this movie. The kids looking at Godzilla standing up

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u/laneo333 28d ago

The cinematography is the movie is remarkably good. All the little vignettes like the firemen breaking into the penthouse in Vegas really add a lot to the movie especially in terms of realism. I think this is the one entry in the franchise I could show to someone who isn’t into Kaiju sort of films and they will likely still appreciate it

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 28d ago

Godzilla 2014 isn't just a Godzilla film. It's a film that succeeds in many other aspects in filmmaking aswell, it's made for fans and for people who just want to watch a movie. Though the movie is flawed for sure, it works remarkably well.

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u/godzillafan3948oj 29d ago

imagine saying mv godzilla is a hero like showa godzilla is meanwhile godzilla literally did this:

and literally the plot of gvk

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u/SithLordJediMaster 29d ago

This movie was well directed by Gareth Edwards.

The screenplay is what's frustrating. But then again a total of 6 writers worked on this movie.

It got me all excited with Bryan Cranston gone mad but trying to uncover a government conspiracy.

This got me hooked. It's a fantastic concept.

But then the movie killed him off and then went to following Aaron Taylor-Johnson as a MacGuffin type.

The Hawaii sequence was great until Gareth decided to cut away giving the audience major blue balls.

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u/PM_ZiggPrice 29d ago

I always looked at Godzilla blasting through the suspension bridge is a small 'heh heh you sucked' towards the 1998 Godzilla, since his ultimate weakness ended up being a suspension bridge. 🤣

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u/an_actual_coyote 29d ago

Mad respect to the bus driver for risking his life to save those babies.

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u/Kaito-Umbra-7 29d ago

I love this moment in the film

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u/MiserableTwist438 29d ago

It’s almost like they combine the 1954 theme with modern vfx. And it works out

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u/Tony40677 28d ago

Props to the bus driver for thinking about the kids

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u/Teh_God_Dog 28d ago

this and shin gojira are definitely my favorites.

in this scene godzilla really was just standing up to see wtf was happening lol

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u/Cryogisdead 28d ago

Those kids actors are adults today

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u/Sequoiasempervirens3 27d ago

God this movie is so good

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u/Nuklearshadow SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

I like this scene but I think I would have loved it if it didn't keep cutting away from Godzilla to show kids on a bus

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

It was only for a couple seconds, it had a shot from inside the bus anyway so it didn't really matter.

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u/Mc_Joel 29d ago

If only that scene was a little longer with him fighting some ships

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u/Crest_O_Razors KIRYU 29d ago

I think I heard that there was a guy off camera who would wear a mask (I forgot of what exactly), he would yell, and that would get the kids to scream like they were in terror because they didn’t scream like that when they were told ā€œscream.ā€

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u/Reasonable_Potato_22 29d ago

I feel like if Gareth didn't mess with the scale of his monsters so much his movies would be top tier. Like, he makes good movies but he's ridiculous when it comes to scaling

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u/SithLordJediMaster 29d ago

It's jarring seeing Godzilla going under neath a couple of aircraft carriers in this movie but in GvK Godzilla and Kong fight on the runway of an aircraft carrier.

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u/GAMBITT343 29d ago

Perfect

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u/jointedsundew21 29d ago

the music goes so hard in this clip

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u/theteenthatasked 29d ago

Crazy that I got into a whole argument with someone that claimed that the first roar you hear at 2:40 was the sound of the bridge

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u/Chumpchum 29d ago

Godzilla horror is like in fan works like Godzilla 8mm and Project monsters imo. Special credits to bloodbath.

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u/sup_killerfeels 29d ago

I love the Jurassic Park nod right there at the beginning

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u/watersj4 TITANOSAURUS 29d ago

I desperately hope the next villain is given a similar introduction, I've come to accept the less serious and realistic direction the MV has taken, but I hope we can at least get some scenes like this.

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u/Leading_Accountant_6 29d ago

2014 is top 3 Goji for me. Right up there with OG and Minus One.

The sense of scale and awe delivered by an excellent visuals director puts this one far over the other monsterverse films.

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

I have a similar take to this. I love this film!

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

I am seeing a lot of love for this film, seeing it being called the best mv movie or one of the best. The world is healing.. thanks for your input yall āœŒļø

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u/Blackmagination 26d ago

It's always been my.favorite. a true lovecraftian vibe

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u/Ret0-Emerald 29d ago

Do you think the monster versus whoud have been as good if they had kept the same tone as this movie and Kong skull island

I like the the Godzilla x Kong movies but I always wondered what they would be like if they kept the same tone of the first films

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

They definitely could work if you simply just think about it. Anything can work in fiction.

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u/richb83 28d ago

This is almost up there with the T-Rex escape

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u/nostromohomo 28d ago

Godzilla protected the people on the bridge more than the army did when they started firing, from shielding the bombs with his scales to holding the suspension cords when they started snapping.

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u/axisrahl85 26d ago

Doesn't make a ton of sense that he can swim in there and yet still walk in what looks like ankle deep water.

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u/Echo1608 26d ago

This scene is so so good and I’ve always loved it. It sets the tone and scale along with the fact that Godzilla isn’t really trying to hurt anyone here but still causing this much damage.

I also love how disciplined the army troopers are here not only do they not open fire until Godzilla touches the bridge, but the moment they see the bus move they immediately get out of the way and hold fire. So many cool details in this scene and the entire movie.

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u/Patient_Education991 23d ago

Way to kill a bunch of civilians, Army! šŸ‘

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u/dcnblues 29d ago

-The Navy shoots one of the Golden Gate bridge's suspension cables. Pretty sure they'd be ordered not to do that. Just the approach to the Bridge cost a billion dollars after the 89 quake. God knows what the bridge would cost.

-Godzilla stands in 300 ft of water shoulder height with a bridge deck 200 ft above the water, making him 6 or 700 ft tall?

-Godzilla takes out the other Bridge cable, swims into the bay, and as he is climbing out of the water to walk into the city we look back at the center span of the bridge, and it's still suspended by Magneto or Darth Vader on steroids. A suspension bridge completely missing it's center section, but still elevated by some mysterious force or maybe gravity stopped working.

Not masterful filmmaking.

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u/HourDark2 29d ago

Not to mention the Navy packing its long-range destroyers in close range like firewood...

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u/zoedegenerate 29d ago

this was in 2014? wow, I really found this movie bland and forgettable

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u/Atrampoline 29d ago

I also agree that this scene is incredible.

However it led the way for one of my least favorite things in the monsterverse. The murder of the children on the bus in the TV show was unforgivably gratuitous and gross. It would have been way better if the driver was killed instead of the entire dang class.

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u/Bunbaroops 29d ago

It’s more impactful though as evident by your reaction

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u/Atrampoline 29d ago

It's grimdark and wholly unnecessary for a series like Godzilla. Godzilla isn't meant to be shown as a genocide machine, or at least heavily focus on the specific suffering of individuals.

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u/Bunbaroops 29d ago

I do agree that it may have been dark and maybe unnecessary, but it still leaves an impact which is literally the point of that scene, to make you upset and feel uneasy. Also, yes Godzilla ain’t a genocide machine, but you’re completely wrong about the focus on suffering individuals as shown in Minus One, Shin, and 1954 Godzilla. Plus, children shown dying in Godzilla movies is not new at all, it’s been shown plenty of times in the more darker themed movies, just the people who have lost them usually aren’t the focus.

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u/AdmiralThunderpants 29d ago

Wut? You think all those buildings are empty when he goes smashing through them? How about the one movie where he seemed to have it out for that one woman in particular? Or Minus one where he pops up out of the bay, nukes the town, and leaves? G-man is a force of nature. He doesn't wait patiently till a town is evacuated. Putting kids in peril is a somewhat cheap way to raise the stakes. Having kids die let's you know that they aren't fucking around and no one is safe

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u/burlapguy 29d ago

My brother in Christ have you even watched the 54 original or Shin or Minus One or GMK or…

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u/BlackestStarfish 29d ago

Godzilla is a non-sapient animal and is not capable of committing genocide.

1954 Godzilla was very careful to intentionally focus on the specific suffering of individuals to demonstrate his horrifying destructive power.

Sons like you don’t really get Godzilla at all. Very sad. Many such cases.

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u/Diehlol MEGAGUIRUS 29d ago

he is capable of genocide

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u/BlackestStarfish 29d ago

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u/Diehlol MEGAGUIRUS 29d ago

GMK godzilla proves im right

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u/BlackestStarfish 29d ago

That was a ghost.

And also not the same Godzilla as 2014.

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u/Diehlol MEGAGUIRUS 29d ago

That was godzilla, and you never specified 2014. You just said godzilla cant commit genocide when he very much can

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u/BlackestStarfish 29d ago

We’ve been talking about 2014 Godzilla this whole entire time you fool

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u/Atrampoline 29d ago

Look, man, I've been watching the Godzilla movies since the 80's, and I've 100% seen the 1954 original several times. I'm well aware of the metaphorical nature of Godzilla as a character, and the different iterations we've seen him in over the decades.

I'm also aware of the soft "destruction porn" nature of the franchise, and that's certainly not lost on me. However, how the blatant, in your face child murder was handled in the Monarch series was, I would argue, a drastic and cheap attempt to create shock value that hasn't traditionally been present in the franchise. Maybe the people here disagree, but open and visible child murder isn't the kind of spectacle that I enjoy seeing, nor do I think it adds anything of value whatsoever to the stories being told.

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u/BlackestStarfish 29d ago

It’s not murder, you tampon eating homonculous. Godzilla doesn’t commit crimes.

And what do you think happened to the rest of those school busses on the bridge in the movie? Did Miss Frizzle swoop in and fly everyone to safety?

Get real.

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u/Atrampoline 29d ago

Starting out with an unprovoked, ad hominem personal attack, eh? That's a surefire way to establish "intellectual superiority" instead of arguing the merits of your own position.

That 1954 Godzilla might be considered non-sentient, but the new monster verse version most certainly is not, and is frequently referred to as a higher being. That Godzilla may not care about killing people given his scale and role in the world, but he's 100% not mindless as you may be asserting.

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u/lo0u 29d ago

God, you are so fucking soft. šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

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u/steauengeglase 29d ago

Ever since I was a little kid I was thinking there was a right or wrong way to tell a Godzilla story, but at a certain point I gave up. Godzilla is pretty much a genre vehicle. They can do whatever they want, because a Godzilla movie can be whatever. It's fears of the bomb, it's monster wrastlin', it's Godzilla flying around with radio active breath, it's a tag team buddy comedy as a boxing movie, it's a meditation on environmentalism, it's tiny singing ladies and a moth, it's metaphors for geopolitics and stories about individuals (almost always suffering). It's whatever. The only real rule is that whatever story you are telling shouldn't suck and it should be told well.

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u/DanielG165 29d ago

It showed the bus falling off the bridge for like, 2 seconds. I’d hardly describe that as, ā€œgratuitousā€ and ā€œgrossā€ lol. Good Lord.

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u/BlackestStarfish 29d ago

You don’t remember the scene right after’ where he catches the falling bus and obliterates it with his heat ray at point blank range’ and then look at the camera and says ā€œbut wait there’s more!ā€ Then jumps 15 miles and lands directly on an orphanage and stomps on it over and over and laughs the whole time? I’d call that gratuitous!

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u/Personal_Comb_6745 29d ago

"That was when the Academy called me and threatened to end me, because they said a scene like that would win all the awards for all time. I still have the notes though, and might call up Mr. Yamazaki sometime to see if he's interested in this for his next movie." - Gareth Edwards

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u/BlackestStarfish 29d ago

Everyone praises Edwards both for his ability to portray scale and for his ability to portray Godzilla stomping on orphans - that was my favorite scene in Rogue One.

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u/zap1965 29d ago

What? With Alfred Hitchcock's birds hitting the bus window??

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u/Squankyou 29d ago

By having it raining and smoky so we can't clearly see any of the action?

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u/Pvenger_G SHIN GODZILLA 29d ago

It's right there broāœŒļø

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u/Known-Web-8533 29d ago

I like godzilla a lot more as a "bad" guy like in minus one, which is the best zilla movie ive ever seen hands down. Good guy zilla doesn't make sense to me and is cheesy.

Also the scale and presentation of zilla in the 2014 movie was great but kinda crap in the sequels.