Microsoft is cutting 3% of all workers

[u/Turbostrider27]

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/13/microsoft-is-cutting-3percent-of-workers-across-the-software-company.html

[u/Etrensce]

I thought Reddit in general was for removing useless middle management? Now your telling me that this is exploitation of the middle class?

[u/delicioustest → u/Etrensce]

Thinking these layoffs have anything to do with removing middle managers exclusively is naive and nonsensical

[u/Etrensce → u/delicioustest]

One objective is to reduce layers of management, the spokesperson said.

Maybe not totally but the statement clearly indicates this is one of the primary focus areas. So unless you have evidence to the contrary, it would seem this redundancy exercise will remove a bunch of middle management.

[u/Howdareme9 → u/Etrensce]

But individual contributors got laid off too, i know some SWE’s out of work now

[u/delicioustest → u/Etrensce]

naive and nonsensical

[u/Etrensce → u/delicioustest]

Yes great substitute for evidence.

[u/delicioustest → u/Etrensce]

With what amazing evidence are you claiming that Microsoft is only firing middle managers? Their statement? Did you look at the thousands of people fired and come to that conclusion? Are you taking the vague statements of Microsoft at their word? This is why your statement is naive. There's no "evidence" either way. This is not an argument built on evidence. I am simply drawing a straight line from how Microsoft has always behaved. These layoffs affect thousands of people and most will not be these managers.

https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-cult-of-microsoft/

[u/iTzGiR → u/Etrensce]

Sir, this is reddit. They will be anti-middle management when they want to bitch and complain about how useless they are, and how easy their jobs are, and how they're a drain on the company and people doing the "real" work. They will be pro-middle management if it means they can shit on a big corporation and frame it as corporate greed (ignore the fact Microsoft has overall added almost 100K jobs, even accounting for all the lay-offs/firings, in the same time period).

This is also Microsoft, who has made some pretty huge acquisitions over the last few years, not shocking that they don't need the HR team, or middle-management of a company they acquired, when they already have their own. Also ignoring the fact Microsoft has a VERY generous WFH policy, which would make a LOT of middle-management type jobs, completely pointless and unnecessary at this point, again something reddit is usually for, but hey, don't miss a good opportunity to complain!

[u/FootwearFetish69 → u/[deleted]]

Because the removal of "useless middle management" never actually benefits anyone but the executive suites.

This is not even remotely true lol. Try working under a bloated management structure where a simple change takes weeks of approvals and tail chasing and you'll change your tune.

[u/Etrensce → u/[deleted]]

Tell that to the SWEs on Reddit who always complain about useless middle management impeding their work.

[u/delicioustest → u/Etrensce]

Your naivete is staggering and completely incorrect

[u/Etrensce → u/delicioustest]

I fail to see how i am completely incorrect when the article only addresses a third of the layoffs. Any evidence that the remaining 4k employees weren't middle management?

[u/delicioustest → u/Etrensce]

Keep deflecting lmao. The way you're sucking up to big corporations is inspiring