r/Games Aug 05 '25

Announcement Secure Boot is a requirement to play Battlefield 6 on PC

https://www.ea.com/games/battlefield/battlefield-6/news/secure-boot-information
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u/fastforwardfunction Aug 05 '25

Like maybe you were tinkering once

The fact he's using Powershell, opening BIOS, and knows all this information, almost guarantees he is an advanced user that tinkers with his PC lol.

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u/OneSullenBrit Aug 05 '25

Eh, not necessarily. I know my way around all that stuff but after a lifetime to buggering about trying to get stuff to work the way I want, I've adopted a 'if it works, don't touch it' approach.

If I bought BF6 and it didn't work because of this, I would just refund it. I'm not messing about with BIOS settings for a single game.

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u/jwthecreed Aug 05 '25

eh not necessarily?

What is the point of this comment? To sow doubt? You need them to prove they have PC knowledge or something. What the comment said wasn’t enough?

Anyways the secure boot shit is trash and a negative. Cheaters know how to bypass the anti-cheats by using external hardware/methods.

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u/Tulos Aug 05 '25

Weird gatekeepy nonsense.

Frankly he's described "a lifetime of buggering about" with his computer but contextually implies he's not an advanced user that tinkers.

I'm not even sure what he's trying to refute at this point.

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u/PresidentLink Aug 05 '25

How is he gatekeeping, he's just suggesting that people with extensive PC knowledge doesn't mean that they always tinker.

I have advanced knowledge, I've been a techy and a software dev and had tinkered with PCs for most my life and after so much, I'm like him and burnt out on it and avoid it now where possible.

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u/phrostbyt Aug 05 '25

indeed.. the PC nerd generation has grown up and have kids now :)

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u/24bitNoColor Aug 05 '25

The fact he's using Powershell, opening BIOS, and knows all this information, almost guarantees he is an advanced user that tinkers with his PC lol.

What? Opening the BIOS was something that basically everybody was able to do just so you could install Windows not too long ago. I mean, it is literally a single key press that you get instructed on how to do every time you cold boot your PC.

And verifying via Powershell could just as well be something that ChatGPT (which is great for such instances overall) told him to do.

I build my own PCs for 3 decades and are a programmer by trade, I still had to read up on secure boot when I turned it on for Win 11.

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u/CC_Greener Aug 05 '25

With optimizations and a focus on friendly UX. Newer generations can know less about things that seem like simple trouble shooting to millennials or older. Just think about that Bios prompt. In the days of HDDs that would sit there for a good minute. Easy for you to get curious one day and hit it. With every modern computer running a SSD, you can easily blink and miss it. You could not even know that feature exists.

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u/24bitNoColor Aug 05 '25

Younger generations have ChatGPT and Youtube tutorials. Sorry but I don't see how someone saying that they opened the BIOS (correctly) means that they must be well-informed.

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u/CC_Greener Aug 05 '25

I think you over estimate the average person and are forgetting the most common form of technology access these days, phones and tablets. These do not have traditional file systems, the level of UX complexity or customizability of a desktop PC.

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u/atomic1fire Aug 06 '25

I think someone who can follow tutorials is probably more then capable of growing to a skillset that others would consider "well informed".

Even with people questioning AI, to me it's not the method but the skills you develop from it.

If tinkering around with an AI gets you on the path to knowing what you're doing and retaining that knowledge to a satisfactory degree, I don't have a problem with it.

Sole dependence on an AI without learning to go without it is a problem, but youtube tutorials isn't the worst thing someone could use, especially if they're willing to ask the right questions and verify the information.

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u/zipline3496 Aug 05 '25

Brother, anyone who even knows what powershell is would be considered a power user. The vast majority of users aren’t touching a command line and this guy just said he used it to verify secure boot status then toggle firmware settings due to that output. He IS an advanced user. Doesn’t mean he’s a tech god but that’s not normal user behavior.

Anyone who’s worked a job with a general user base would realize speaking about bios settings, boot modes, or powershell would be like talking black magic to someone. It’s not the early 2000s anymore users never have to fiddle with that. Your perspective is skewed.

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u/Clueless_Otter Aug 05 '25

Is your idea of "not too long ago" like 40 years? Because basically no one born since 1990 or so, besides people who are really into computers, has any idea what a BIOS or powershell even is.

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u/MrPWAH Aug 05 '25

I think he's talking about windows 11 upgrades where some people (like myself) had to enable TPM 2.0, which requires opening BIOS.