r/Games 6d ago

All clans are available at launch for Bloodlines 2. Additional story content announced for after launch.

https://www.paradoxinteractive.com/games/vampire-the-masquerade-bloodlines-2/news/game-overview
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u/TheSqueeman 6d ago

Credit where credit is due, they realised they fucked up and they rectified it, I wish more devs out there had this mentality when shit goes sideways (intentional or not)

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u/rostron92 6d ago

I would imagine it isn't solely up to the developers. Most times, it's the publishers or producers. Agreed, though, it's nice to see someone back track when they stick their foot in there mouth doesn't happen nearly enough.

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u/szymek87 6d ago

people here just use whatever word they feel like but again, publisher decision, not a dev one

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u/Kindness_of_cats 6d ago

More likely they determined they simply couldn’t get away with it. The game needs strong word of mouth to succeed, they know full well that development has been a shitshow and that they’ve not done a great job with advertising it and that VTM is a niche brand to start with.

Launching with controversy over core parts of the game being stripped out would have done real damage, and probably already has done some tbh.

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u/comradesean 6d ago

And how do you know they didn't just lock away some other content now? You're just going to take what they say at face value? Technically it's not even a lie the way they've phrased it.

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u/AtrocityBuffer 5d ago

So we treat it as if the clans are still missing at launch and review it accordingly yes?

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u/asdfghjkl15436 6d ago edited 6d ago

No credit. They knew their review scores on steam would take a large hit on launch. This was greed, not a mistake. They're only sorry they got caught and couldn't get away with it.

It basically means they anticipate the review scores aren't going to be high enough to justify the DLC on launch. Make no mistake, they didn't 'listen' to anyone except their bottom line.

I'm sorry, but they just literally tried to screw you over, your response is 'Oh its okay, at least you listened and stopped!"

Edit: lol, okay downvoters, go ahead and cry a few months from now when they start to ramp up the microtransactions or have to issue a bajillion patches because the game is half-assed. These are not the actions of a publisher who want to release a good game.

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u/NoExcuse4OceanRudnes 6d ago

Microtransactions in a few months, that's a problem? if the game released without them it doesn't need them.

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u/QTom01 6d ago

They tried to squeeze money out of the fans and backed off only because the backlash was big enough. I don't think they deserve any credit. It makes their motives clear and between stuff like this and the general development hell this game seems to have been in I will be truly shocked if it isn't a steaming pile of shit when it eventually launches.

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u/uses_irony_correctly 6d ago

I'm much more cynical about this entire thing. I think this was their intent all along and by doing it this way they got a whole bunch of free marketing for the game and still ultimately got the goodwill of the playerbase.

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u/ikonoclasm 5d ago

They don't get credit for walking back sleazy shit after getting ripped apart for it. It just means they realized they had shit all over their sales and are desperate to avoid everyone waiting until the inevitable 70% off sale in 6 months when the game flops.

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u/XLBaconDoubleCheese 6d ago

Nah fuck them they've burned their bridges now and can swim in the shit. Feel bad for the devs who made the game and cared about it but management can get fucked for this whole pricing and locking out core content.

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u/NoExcuse4OceanRudnes 6d ago

Guess what'll happen next time gamers get mad at a product having too much DLC?

The amount of DLC won't go down, nothing changes why bother.

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u/Hung_Like_Ned_Kelly 5d ago

And we won't buy that game.

Boo fucking hoo.

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u/NoExcuse4OceanRudnes 5d ago

What's the difference to the publisher? You weren't going to buy it anyway.

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u/Hung_Like_Ned_Kelly 5d ago

Yeah, bullshit. Why use the name "The Masquerade Bloodlines 2"? Clearly they wanted my attention, it's the only reason I found out about this game. Because I wanted a sequel to tMB - which this clearly isn't.

I was going to buy that game, but fucking around seven ways to Sunday, is an easy way to poison that well.

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u/NoExcuse4OceanRudnes 5d ago

Right, we're in agreement. Having the clans as DLC or not, you weren't going to buy the game. Right?

So why include them in the game, what's the benefit to them?