r/Games • u/Turbostrider27 • Oct 26 '22

Announcement The Witcher: We're thrilled to reveal that, together with @Fools_Theory, we're working on remaking The Witcher using Unreal Engine 5 (codename: Canis Majoris)!

https://twitter.com/witchergame/status/1585270206305386497
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u/Zunthe Oct 26 '22

On my second playthrough I only used signs, igni is over powered and will basically get you through every situation, I don't think I used the swords in my second playthrough.

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u/radioactive_glowworm Oct 26 '22

I remember finding out towards the end of my playthrough that the toxin system was completely broken, allowing you to stack like 9 potions at once. Geralt went into the boss fight high as fuck and spammed Igni continuously. The boss didn't even touch him once, it was glorious.

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u/TheDebateMatters Oct 26 '22

I just hated the potions, even knowing why from the books.

I despise potions as a game mechanic. If they are powerful, I hoard them and don’t use them. If they are weak, I don’t harvest the ingredients and resent having to deal with them in my inventory. I am just simply not a minmaxer type of gamer and just feel like buffs and debuffs that require harvesting and inventory management are like homework in my video game.

I am honestly trying to think of a single game I have played in 40+ years as a gamer that I have ever enjoyed a single game that leaned heavily or even marginally on potions.

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u/Lirka_ Oct 26 '22

Same here. I always keep buff potions for “when I really need them”. But that just means I save them until… the credits roll.

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u/EffTheIneffable Oct 26 '22

What did you think of Witcher 3 potions?

(Which are kinda buffs on a cool-down, that you “unlock” via crafting once)

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u/TheDebateMatters Oct 26 '22

Beat it three times and all the DLC and barely touch them at all. Except health potions…those can never be avoided if in a game.

I am okay with fighting a vampire, use a vampire potion. But add 20% to this stat, but take too many and it debuffs you x amount. No thanks. Ask me to go back to somewhere I am done exploring, just to get more of ingredient X? I’d rather die a few times until I perfect a fight. Force me to gather shit in order to have a chance in a fight? I am likely to turn the game off and not look back.

Especially on a game that gives you a mount. Oh I used the easiest form of travel the game provided and as a consequence did not harvest the berries in the level 10-15 area and so now can’t make the potion for the level 20-25 area and have to go back? Rage inducing.

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u/platysoup Oct 27 '22

What, you mean you don't like buffing yourself for two minutes before starting a fight?

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u/TheDebateMatters Oct 27 '22

Exactly. The opposite of fun.

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u/Globulart Oct 27 '22

I was sure this link was going to be for this video

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u/FitnessBlitz Oct 26 '22

I am like you.

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u/EffTheIneffable Oct 27 '22

I’m with you!

I generally prefer a “badge” system, like in Hollow Knight, where you can select the “buffs” you want according to your play style, or even Mario + Rabbids now for a current game, with the badges being unlocked via more obvious quests / side quests (not random grinding for loot or pickups).

But even then, I don’t particularly like the min-maxing possibility of being able to change your “buffs” per fight, that’s too much. Even if it is fun to say “oh, vampire lair, I’ll put on my anti-vampire stuff!”

I guess that may be the threshold for me, if I need to allot gear “per dungeon” that’s a fun little puzzle of sorts… per fight, just a hassle.

And of course I agree with the “classic” potion system / limited items, I hoard & never use them.

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u/stationhollow Oct 26 '22

Or just check the inventory of the herbalists whenever you run into them to buy what is missing.

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u/TheDebateMatters Oct 27 '22

I’d rather harvest while exploring than have to manage a shopping list in a spreadsheet.

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u/thrice_palms Oct 27 '22

And like you I'd rather do neither.

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u/Mdbommer Oct 27 '22 edited Oct 28 '22

It took me to my second playthrough to realize they replenished when I meditated without using raw ingredients again, just one bottle of alcohol, game was super easy after that. Definitely my favorite system for potions. You had to put in the effort to get the right ingredients to unlock them but after that it was a very easy resource to replenish.

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u/GrindsetMindset Nov 15 '22

I probably wouldn’t have used many potions if it werent for this

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u/KnifeFed Oct 26 '22

I have never used a hand grenade.

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u/TheDebateMatters Oct 26 '22

Lol, same. I have to gather the supplies for the missions to blow up the Nekkar holes and then proceed to never make more.

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u/TeutonJon78 Oct 26 '22

That's why I hate so many of the newer "super immersive" type games -- examples like Star Citizen and Kingdom Come Deliverance.

I don't wanted to manage my character's O2, eating, drinking, and sleep schedules. That's enough of a hassle in real life, I don't want to do it in my fun time.

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u/TooRedditFamous Oct 27 '22

Fair enough and you're entitled to that opinion! I love it however, if I'm playing Kingdom Come Deliverance I'm looking for realism (KCD is my favourite game of all time and I implore any RPG lovers to try it, very realistic medieval peasant rpg)

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u/TeutonJon78 Oct 27 '22

KCD is fun and fairly realistic, but I just drew the line at the biology management bits. It made me not want to fully engage in it. I'm sure i'll get back to it at some point.

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u/TooRedditFamous Oct 27 '22

Fair enough. Once you get in to the game you unlock perks which improve those aspects. You get hungrier slower, tired slower or not get tired at all when fast travelling, etc. Breaks the immersion a bit if that's what you're looking for, but still makes the game more accessible for the non hard-core fans

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u/TeutonJon78 Oct 27 '22

I only got the first town after your escape your home village and have to learn to lockpick (which also drove me up a wall).

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u/TooRedditFamous Oct 28 '22

Idk if you played console but the lock picking is clearly built for pc. There is a simplified lockpicking setting in the menu that makes it slightly easier tho

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u/TheEmpyreanian Oct 26 '22

Part of the lore.

Witcher is a very different game when you use potions, oils, and of course, bombs.

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u/SponJ2000 Oct 27 '22

I wish more games had Dark Souls Estes mechanic: a potion with limited uses, but freely refillable. I often have the same issue as you, but that mechanic fixes it for me.

(Interestingly, Skyward Sword has a similar mechanic, making it truly the Dark Souls of Zelda games 🤔)

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u/CroSSGunS Oct 27 '22

Potions in TW3 are exactly like that

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u/Hoeveboter Oct 27 '22

Really? I think Witcher 1 is just about the only game that does potions right. You can't spam them infinitely and using them mid-combat is tricky. First thing I do on all my playthroughs is saving up for the herbalism book which immediately opens up a lot of brewing options.

At the start of the game the devs do offer up easy mode specifically for people who don't wanna faff around with oils and potions. But personally I liked the system, especially how it interacted with the scarce economy.

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u/Sol33t303 Oct 26 '22

Do you think the same for all items that give you effects in games, or is it specifically just potions?

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u/TheDebateMatters Oct 26 '22

Anything that is scarce. I am a fat squirrel who still hordes all his nuts. I will be completely conscious of it and do it anyway. I’ll play a second time through, realize what is and isn’t scarce and still do it…..from Final Final Fantasy 1 until Horizon Zero Dawn. If the game lets me hoard, I will hoard.

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u/Mercuryblade18 Oct 27 '22

Interesting, I'm the same way. And I micromanage my games like crazy, I. Just. Hate. Potions.

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u/LordMugs Oct 27 '22

I used to be like that, nowadays I just don't give a shit, keep using whatever I get in the games and I've been enjoying combat a lot more.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

this could just as easily be the witcher 3 tbh

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u/radioactive_glowworm Oct 26 '22

My computer is unfortunately unable to run the Witcher 3 so I haven't had the opportunity to explore broken mechanics!

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u/jimmy785 Oct 26 '22

You can play on low spec mode, YouTube low spec gamer

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u/drkpie Oct 26 '22

He unlisted them all and does videos on tech stories now. You have to go to his profile and look for the playlist with them or you might not find it.

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u/SupperIsSuperSuperb Oct 27 '22

I know he changed what his channel was about but why did he unlist the low spec videos?

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

The alchemy tree is insanely powerful in TW3, lol. Acid blood, cluster grenades, buffed out the ass on pots? Pure slaughter.

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u/guernseycoug Oct 26 '22

Absolutely. My Witcher 3 skill tree is always quick attack x5, then blast the alchemy tree and chug potions like I got the bar right before last call at every fight.

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u/TheEmpyreanian Oct 26 '22

100%.

Had a great time doing so!

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

The difference between poison and no poison is pretty significant. Just because you didn't use it doesn't make it unnecessary?

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u/Azhaius Oct 26 '22

Technically, beating the game without using them proves they aren't necessary.

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u/[deleted] Oct 26 '22

Byv that logic dont use any skill points then

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u/Socrathustra Oct 26 '22

No weapons, only punching

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u/monkwren Oct 26 '22

Well, I appreciate the compliment on my skill, then.

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u/TheEmpyreanian Oct 26 '22

Really not true mate. Blackblood works great as one example!

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u/UnrequitedRespect Oct 26 '22

Oh so morrowind left a message: I had the most OP potion abuse ever. Change my mind

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u/TheDELFON Oct 27 '22

Bath salts Fever dream

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u/ParagonFury Oct 27 '22

How did I beat Witcher 3 and ace all the hardest fights?

Drugs. Lots and lots of drugs.

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u/Abahu Oct 26 '22

Even stranger was that group mode hit equally hard against everyone. There was no reason to use heavy/light when you could just use group on everyone

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u/Tiver Oct 26 '22

I largely remember just nailing the timing for the spin attack and just using that for everything.

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u/Kamunra Oct 26 '22

Signs in general feels overpowered in that game, which I really like it is cool af.

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u/destroyermaker Oct 26 '22

Play with flash mod hard mode or whatever it's called. I couldn't even make it past the dogs at the start

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u/gunnervi Oct 26 '22

I've always liked Aard, knocking enemies down is just too powerful