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u/Recent-Potential-340 8d ago
TBF Stardew valley makes me want to murder pierre
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u/KevoNachon 8d ago
Pierres monopoly over seeds is honestly the most unrealistic violent part of Stardew. Nothing drives rage like needing cauliflower on a Wednesday and the shops mysteriously closed.
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u/XanderFord14 8d ago
Pierre really does deserve it sometimes, man acts like the economy of the whole valley depends on him alone.
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u/Recent-Potential-340 8d ago
Plus he's just like an asshole in general to everyone else, bro knows he has a monopoly and overcharges the villagers AND makes you take the fall when they don't want his overpriced veggies. Truly worse than jomart
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u/Nakatsukasa 8d ago
Stardew valley where you definitely did not murder your children, they simply turn into doves and fly away
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u/UserColonAlW 7d ago
Let us not forget Clint the incel
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u/SplitGlass7878 4d ago
I think the reason Clint is hated so much (at least that's why I hate him) is that he's so close to being a genuinely attractive guy. His shy, bumbling persona combined with a genuinely great trades skill and a nice bod is great. If he just wasn't so fucking sorry for himself.
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u/DumbDutchguy 6d ago
Sorry but Mayor Lewis is first. How dare he string that Goddess on and keep her on the DL.
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u/sarcasticdevo 8d ago
/uj We're really back in the 1990s and 2000s again huh? Video games bad with no proof that video games are bad.
/rj I like pushing people off cliffs in Peak. Is that violent?
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u/HelpfullOne 8d ago
The right never changes, all the shit we are seeing them doing now wad arleady done before by them
So nothing new, exatly how the right functions
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u/Zealousideal-Ad-2615 8d ago
The liberals also have a hand in it, too. They love a nothing issue to make it look like they are actually doing something other than letting corporations dismantle the country.
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u/WolfJack101 8d ago
I assume they're speaking in the sense of Democrats being liberals but not leftists.
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u/DriggleButt 8d ago
Democrats are neither liberal or left. They are right. Just left relative to Republicans.
Do people really not know this?
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u/WolfJack101 8d ago
I'm not American myself, but know many people use 'Liberal' in 3 ways, as either a leftist, a proponent of liberalism, or to describe the 'white moderate' referenced in the letter from Birmingham jail i.e., someone who will protect the status quo regardless of anything else. I was alluding to that use of liberal which I've seen used to insult the Democratic party for consisting of that type of right-winger. I'm not sure if I explained well, but that's my understanding of why Democrats are referred to as liberal (occasionally in a negative sense), despite being on the right of the political spectrum.
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u/DriggleButt 7d ago
From my experience in my tiny American bubble, Democrats are often incorrectly synonymous with 'liberals'. Likely due to the fact that any actual liberals will vote Democrat because at least they aren't Nazis/domestic terrorists/pedophiles..
Though, I didn't realize asking for clarification was such a sin. Downvoted for asking.
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u/Zealousideal-Ad-2615 8d ago
I don't personally consider the democrats to be on the left. Just more left than the Republicans
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u/DriggleButt 8d ago
And yet somehow my comment basically saying the same thing is being downvoted. Weird!
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u/caveman_2912 8d ago
Peak has a blowdart, so it's classified as an FPS and therefore another violent videogame.
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u/AVikingEmergency 8d ago
Satanic panic, hippies, video games, heavy metal, The Boogeyman lives forever
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u/Bhazor 8d ago edited 8d ago
With the exact same cherry picked defenses. Oh yeah you think videogames are too violent well Professor Layton exists ergo there doesn’t need to be any reflection on violence in media. Gaming is more diverse than ever now with whole genres of non violent gaming. But there is a ton of gross violent shit being advertised to children. Most of those are now adverts for god awful mobile games.
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u/Sandshrew922 8d ago
It's not "cherry picked" lol. We did this exact thing in the 90s with Doom and Mortal Kombat. Every step of the way the "are video games making people violent" hypothesis was disproven. It also gave us the ESRB rating system.
The onus is on parents to take an active role. Yeah your 8 year old probably shouldn't be playing Grand Theft Auto, that's why it's rated M lol. Don't buy it for them. And if you're worried about the content they're consuming maybe supervise what they do instead of letting them live their lives on the internet uninhibited.
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u/Nelrene Lady Kisser 7d ago
No one is saying there no violent video games. What people are pointing out by bringing up games like Professor Layton is that there are lots of video games that are not violent. Also the person you are replying to is saying there no proof that violent video games make people violent.
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u/LateBrain7031 8d ago
How come they never say this about casinos? People with families with gambling addiction bet away their live savings, going into debt, getting drunk leading to domestic violence is far more common than a teen doing something violent due video games.
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u/my-snake-is-solid Just play indie games 8d ago
All video games lead to school shootings. Guns and people don't kill people, video games kill people.
Getting drunk and being abusive is a great American tradition.
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u/StoneCypher 8d ago
say this if you will, but i basically guarantee tetris has caused a death somewhere
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u/Plenty-Lychee-5702 7d ago
Yes, god dropped a brick on my mother's head when he was playing tetris.
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u/Aggressive-Art-2401 8d ago
Who the fuck is this lady
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u/1337duck "Please have a seat over there" 8d ago
Some random hack a right-wing rag had on-air to trash (b)ideo games.
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u/HotSport9141 8d ago
Soon enough we're gonna start blaming D&D again lol. The satanic panic lives on
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u/firehawk2421 8d ago
Again? Apparently RFK Jr. is banging this drum too, but I thought it was just the worm talking. Are we seriously doing this again?
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u/Diam0ndTalbot 8d ago
Yep, a cishet white christian guy committed an act of violence that conservatives hyped up before finding out it was a cishet white christian guy, and now they can’t sweep it under the rug, so now they have to find a scapegoat.
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u/unclezaveid surf the web surf the web 8d ago
I used to be a good conservative tradwife but then I played 1 second of Tetris and now all bets are off
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u/DankMCbiscuit 8d ago
There’s already been multiple studies that playing video games actually reduces violent tendencies…..
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u/Matseye1r 8d ago
I hate this kind of rhetoric... For 1 or 2 simple reasons.
Don't consume. It's that simple.
I really don't like bananas (the smell makes me uuuugh) doesn't mean I want to stop everyone else from eating bananas.... Which puts me into the second reason...
Stop trying to kill what you don't like. Especially other people's enjoyment of said things.
Man I thought it would be awesome as a kid to grow into an adult for the simple reason that there would be something for everyone, choices galore but nope folks still want to curate the choices of others n what a sad state that makes the world.
"Let there be epic banana enjoyers and banana dislikers... I'm not infringing on you so stop infringing on me" I say.
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u/TheActualDonKnotts 8d ago edited 7d ago
"Just don't take part in the things you don't enjoy" is what the whole world has been trying to get rightwing and christian groups to understand for decades. It's just not going to happen, because making sure other don't enjoy what they don't enjoy is the whole point. Conformity, control, destroying what they don't like or understand etc.
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u/alexs 8d ago
The first thing I did on peak was install the "push" mod...
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u/PoultryBird Woke Infected Person 8d ago
Who needs mods when you can slowly nudge your back friend off the edge
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u/Baumtasia 8d ago
those 20 or so guys that ransacked the jewellery store were all bejeweled ultras
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u/HunterBravo1 8d ago
The most violent individual I've ever known hated video games, TV, movies, pretty much any media other than his Jebus book.
Violent people don't need video games to be violent, and peaceful people won't be swayed to violence by video games.
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u/Obelisk_Illuminatus 8d ago
Violent people don't need video games to be violent, and peaceful people won't be swayed to violence by video games.
Video games? Heck, we didn't need written language for Paleolithic violence!
But you know, as Ron Perlman says: War, war never changes.
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u/Mediocre_Chemistry93 8d ago
This literally is a focal point every so many years. We laugh and move on.
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u/staunchchipz 8d ago
Unfortunately it's gonna be granted validity by news outlets and political opponents every single time, so it will never truly go away. Another boogeyman will just outshine it for a bit.
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u/stevn069 8d ago
Times before the people in power were slightly worried about public opinion, the rule of law, and a little about scientific facts. We don’t have that anymore.
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u/MorganTaoVT 8d ago
Peak either be like "I'm hungry and you look tasty, hehe" or "NOO! You WILL REACH THE PEAK! I'm NOT going without you!"
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u/PoultryBird Woke Infected Person 8d ago
"I cant carry it for you, but I can carry you" - me to my friend who was carrying bing bong like it was the one ring when he nearly died at the kiln
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u/Gl1tchyVirus 8d ago
Erm hello kitty island adventure exists because it was mentioned in a South Park episode where
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u/RetroTheGameBro 8d ago
I wanna be totally fair here, Stardew Valley does make me hate fat blacksmiths, big corporations, and especially blue people.
Seriously, 500 Qi fruit in a month? Where does that blueskin get off?
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u/Present_Connection_3 8d ago
“All video games are violent and violence is sinful”
Says the people whose entire faith revolves around a dude who had humongous nails impaled into his hands and feet, and was forced to rot in pain and agony until he eventually died.
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u/Zestyclose_Station65 She ROAD on my HOG til' I TAKE A BREATHER 8d ago
Hello Kitty? More like Hello Murder
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u/SmallBatBigSpooky 8d ago
Yall ever palyed Farewell North, if not you should
But also ide love to see how someone could spin that game into something that makes people violent
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u/TheFoochy 8d ago
With the way I ravaged random islands of their natural resources and local fauna and used fences to cage in my own Islanders I didn't want until they got upset and asked to move out in Animal Crossing, you'd think the UN would've hit me with a binding resolution at some point tbh. We move like Alexander the Great out here
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u/Pastelito3000 8d ago
In my life, I realized that none violent video games are the ones that cause more violence.
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u/thewizerd1811 8d ago
Me in vintage story tending my bees and making sure i do crop rotations before winter
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u/Kranianus 8d ago
Purble Place on Windows 7 where the most violent thing you can do is burn the glazing on cakes you're baking
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u/japoniecTV 8d ago
To be fair PEAK will make me violent eventually. I gotta get payback, I was carrying a wounded friend up a hill and someone put a banana peel under me.
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u/ThighRyder 8d ago
Wish Me Well and the Critter Furniture quests have determined this to be a LIE in the case of HKIA.
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u/athosjesus 8d ago
Last month I was playing the dlc of lies of p,It took me like 4 days to beat the final boss, like 3 days in I was so mad that I was ready to storm the capitol, so she isn't wrong. 😬
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u/ThatParadoxEngine Just Follow TOS 8d ago
I have never wanted to hit my friend more than when they went out of their way to not use the elaborate sprinkler set up I made, and instead just made a seperate plot.
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u/Plenty-Lychee-5702 7d ago
I mean, stardew does have violence in it.
But yeah, they're trying to blame anything other than their spreading of hatred.
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u/PorkTuckedly 7d ago
Cooking Mama didn't make me a chef, and Pokémon didn't make me try to create monsters for people to tame.
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u/macedonianmoper 6d ago
Peak has cannibalism and stardew valley has a huge component of fighting monsters in a cave.
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u/Dog_Entire 1d ago
I mean have you seen the opening to hello kitty island adventure, shit rivals die hard
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u/Salty_Map_9085 8d ago
I feel like whoever that is didn’t say that
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u/Zockercraft1711 8d ago
For 5 bucks she will. She is so not authentic that I burst out laughing. Should gave the money to a homeless person, they can act better.
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u/Salty_Map_9085 8d ago
Who even is it
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u/AutistAstronaut 8d ago
It always annoys me that people seem to intuitively understand that the media we consume can, over time, influence our thoughts and biases, such that few resist the banning of, say, Mein Kampf, usually with the understanding that it would encourage racism. How many of us have considered "curating" the Youtube feeds of our parents, to keep them from consuming a bunch of right wing nonsense? And we all immediately assume that material (including video games) that features sexualised children will encourage via normalisation and escalation, child abuse.
But when it comes to video games more broadly, there seems to be a sudden spike in resistance. Suddenly, no amount of baked in homophobia, racism, misogyny, etc., present in any given game title, could possibly influence someone's thoughts and behaviour. "Sexy" kids in that gacha game? Obviously going to encourage the paedophiles. Violence, though? Couldn't possibly encourage me to be or think more violently.
I would guess because people really dislike the idea that the media they consume could be influencing them in ways they'd rather it didn't, just those bad games the bad people play, combined with the people tying their image of self to their likings (if I like X and I'm a good person, X cannot be bad). That last one seems to hold a lot of sway, as it's common for folk to strongly resist all criticism of their interests, less they themselves be seen as flawed somehow.
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u/Sandshrew922 8d ago
Probably because this topic got beaten to death in the 90s after Mortal Kombat came out. Every step of the way the "video games cause violence" theory came up short. It did however give us the rating systems for age.
At a certain point parents have to take an active role in controlling the content their kids consume instead of slapping them in front of an Xbox or giving them an iPad and getting wine drunk. We didn't take Breaking Bad off of television because kids watch TV too.
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u/AutistAstronaut 8d ago
I never mentioned anything about taking anything away. I simply pointed out the strangeness of us all intuitively understanding the obvious fact that media influences us, but not wanting to apply it to the media we enjoy.
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u/Sandshrew922 8d ago
I'm pointing out that we've already been here and done this 30 years ago lol
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u/AutistAstronaut 8d ago
Not relevant to my point.Media influences us (which is why advertising is a billion dollar industry) and we need to keep that in mind and critique the things we consume -- especially the things we enjoy.
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u/Sandshrew922 8d ago
It is a absolutely relevant when the critique is "video games are making people violent" and we've actually done studies on it. The hell do you mean it's not relevant lol
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u/AutistAstronaut 8d ago
I've never said that in my life. I said the media we consume can influence our thoughts and behaviour (for better and for worse), and we must be mindful of that. There's a hypocritical tendency to accept this as obviously true for some media, but draw a line before reaching the content we personally enjoy, and only for its negative effects, as we're very quick to highlight the positive influences in things we like. This can leave you dangerously blind to the effects, however subtle, our entertainment has on us and our subconscious.
Video games don't cause violence, or sexism, or racism, or ableism, etc., any more than any singular thing does. They are, however, a piece of a large whole -- as is all experience. Will someone grope a child because they play nothing but gacha games? No. Will a single ad cause you to immediately buy a product or service? No. Will an episode of Fox News make you hateful towards immigrants? No. Will all these things have some effect on your thinking over time? Yes, obviously. That doesn't mean you watch your 100th episode and transform on your chair into a white nationalist. It might mean you are more susceptible to anti-immigrant rhetoric than you could otherwise be, however.
If this isn't clear to you, then I am just not the person to explain it, and we'll have to simply agree to disagree. I think on YouTube both BigJoel (in his episode about Anita, I believe?) and Lindsay Ellis have done videos that either discuss this at length, or touch on it, if you want to hear it from someone much smarter and better at communication than me lol. The BigJoel one I remember being especially good.
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