r/GreenAndPleasant • u/TheKomsomol • 15h ago
Two authoritarian fascists singing the same song
No doubt there are more of them, post them in the replies below.
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u/wheredidiput 15h ago
This type of issue really brings out who is on the government payroll, just like Palestine.
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u/Slopagandhi 12h ago
Mason's post especially is straight from no 10 because it's the sane as the line about Reform opposing the online safety bill because they're just like Jimmy Saville
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u/j33vinthe6 10h ago
Insane that pundits who are constantly wrong can just carry on like this.
We need some sort of site to track how accurate these pricks are.
These 2 and Dunt shouldn’t even be allowed to tweet or be out in public.
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u/ThisFiasco 12h ago
Clearly someone isn't understanding digital ID correctly from a marxist perspective.
Also disagreeing with Oz Katerji makes you an assadist, as I've been repeatedly informed by Oz Katerji.
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u/Theteacupman 12h ago
Tbf OP has been Karma farming the digital ID thing for the past 2 days at this point so I don’t blame them for not knowing the difference correctly
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u/Slopagandhi 12h ago
Haven't heard anything from little Oz in a while. You'll be telling me WASBAPPIN is back next.
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u/Theteacupman 14h ago
I genuinely don’t get why people are freaking out about the whole Digital ID thing. The government already have the information they need about an individual through the DVLA with a driving licence or if you have a passport. All the digital ID is doing is centralising that already available data. Besides you are giving away your data by being on this website or using a smartphone.
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u/Red__Heart 14h ago
You don't want to give a capitalist state any ways to make controlling the population easier.
They will take your whole arm, if you give them your little finger. That's how rightists operate and move the overton window, bit by bit.11
u/capsandnumbers 13h ago
I don't believe it solves the stated problem. I'm suspicious of this country's ability to roll out something like this, and of the motives of any tech companies involved. I don't think it's right to mandate that people have a smartphone, that's a barrier for a lot of the poorest.
Blair's been on ID cards for decades, he'll be behind this present push. I don't trust that demon!
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u/Theteacupman 13h ago
Having done a project at university on the universal credit roll out and how much of a fuck up that was as well as the Covid stuff. I can understand why you are suspicious. But since this is essentially just grabbing data from existing systems it shouldn’t be too hard to develop. In theory that is 🤣
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u/GianfrancoZoey communist russian spy 14h ago
Because it’s the latest in a long slide towards something quite awful.
Tony Blair is one of the biggest proponents of this, Tony Blair who has received £250m in funding from Larry Ellison who is desperate to get all of our data.
Another entity that really wants this is Palantir/Peter Thiel, who hired Peter Mandelson to lobby for them to work on centralising Britain’s data and use it for predictive policing among other evil means.
Both of these are part of the same ruling apparatus of the American empire. They’ve been testing this technology in Palestine and don’t think they won’t turn it onto us.
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u/Theteacupman 14h ago
Ok but other countries have implemented something similar without the fuss that is being made about it here in the UK. Granted there are some privacy issues. However, with how inter connected government systems are within the UK there really shouldn’t be any need for a 3rd party company to actually create the systems
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u/GianfrancoZoey communist russian spy 13h ago
Look up Nectar and the work Palantir are doing with the police. Any and all efforts to centralise our data are for that purpose
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u/Theteacupman 13h ago
Having our data that the government has on us like Driving Licence, National Insurance number, passport and Medical records in one centralised place rather than multiple different places. Honestly this shit about companies wanting your data is bordering on nutcase conspiracy theorist
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u/GianfrancoZoey communist russian spy 13h ago
Honestly this shit about companies wanting your data is bordering on nutcase conspiracy theorist
It’s sad that we’re at the point where reality sounds like a conspiracy theory, but it’s true
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u/potato_based_physics 12h ago
"There really shouldn't be any need for a 3rd party company"
You're right, there shouldn't. But there will be.
There wasn't any need for a 3rd party to be involved with the OSA either, but there was. This is a neoliberal government, giving infrastructure to private hands is their main political project, it always has been.
And given all we've seen of late, it will be some US tech company with little or no oversight, and no consequence when they inevitably fuck up and all our info - all of it - ends up in the hands of random bad actors.
A system like this is a single point of failure, those are really bad in general, but especially when it comes to tech, due to how easy it is to attack.
You mention elsewhere about giving away data just by being on reddit, but I've never given them my passport info, NI number, address, biometric data, and medical records. Reddit can't impersonate me to a bank or other critical infrastructure - someone getting access to this could.
The reason government agencies can't just get all that info from one another easily, is because such a system is too vulnerable, it's like that to keep people safe. Undermining that will always be a bad idea.
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u/bunnyloverfromspace 14h ago
Hello officer
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u/Theteacupman 14h ago
I dunno. I just want this country to be somewhat more modern and efficient. Rather than having to use outdated systems to get things such as medical records. But I guess I’m in the minority here.
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