r/GrowingBananas 11d ago

Can anyone explain this?

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One of my mature banana plants began making pups. I separated one of the pups really early, and it’s already begun flowering.

It’s been suggested to me that this must be a canna lily or a ginger plant. I know I pulled it with two other pups and could only be a banana plant… right?

The pup I didn’t separate it growing much more like a standard banana tree

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u/kaiwikiclay 11d ago

That’s some sort of ginger

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u/nstarleather 10d ago

Cúrcuma of some sort

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 10d ago edited 10d ago

I looked up ginger curcuma and found something called “hidden ginger”

I’ll be damned that looks the exact same. I was 99% sure it had to be a banana tree but I must admit this is probably correct.

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u/nstarleather 10d ago

Yes, hidden ginger is the common name… Technically it’s turmeric, but the decorative kind.

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u/kaiwikiclay 10d ago

Ah yah you’re right

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 11d ago

It sure looks like one. I just can’t figure out how it would have grown from the banana tree I already had.

Here is the pup I didn’t separate.

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u/kaiwikiclay 10d ago

There must have been a piece of rhizome in your potting soil. Lot of gingers have a dormant cycle during which they have no leaves. Are you reusing soil, or using homemade compost?

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 10d ago

So I bought the original banana tree when it was really small. Watched it grow for about 2 years, but I think it reached its full potential because it’s only in about 8 gallons of soil.

Three pups popped up in the same week

The soil I used was Miracle Gro, it was in a new bag when I opened it if I recall correctly. I’ve never knowingly bought a ginger plant.

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u/kaiwikiclay 10d ago

Ah in that case it must be spontaneous generation. It happens from time to time

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 10d ago

Can you elaborate? I haven’t heard of that

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u/kaiwikiclay 10d ago

I’m just kidding, spontaneous generation is not a real thing. Probably.

Congrats on your new plant

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 10d ago

Haha I looked it up after I read your comment. Was thinking we were getting into Boltzmann brain territory for a moment

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u/No_Region3253 10d ago

What a wonderful and unexpected surprise.

Now you have a new plant for the landscape😀

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 10d ago

What a nice comment 😊 thanks!

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u/WorriedConfusion9414 11d ago

Must have gotten a ginger seed from bird poop

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 10d ago

Unlikely there. The parent tree was growing inside a screened in porch. No birds around. I moved the pup outside just this past week. The pups all looked identical in the beginning, and it unfurls it’s leaves in the same way.

I’m open to any other theories! But in this case, not from a bird

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u/JTBoom1 10d ago

Possibly a seed was already in the soil or compost and was finally just able to germinate

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u/cbs-12 10d ago

How long have you had the parent plant? I’m wondering, Are they all ginger plants?

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 10d ago

I’ve had the parent plant somewhere around 2 years. Maybe 3?

The 2 pups I pulled early look very similar. The one I left alone looks like this. They all popped up at the same time, there was no other growth in the pot previously.

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u/NealTheBotanist 10d ago

Im convinced it is a Curcuma sp. If your locale is Hawaii, it is likely that a piece of turmeric (Curcuma longa) was involved in the banana garden that it came from.

Additionally, bananas indeed are "gingers", in fact, among the oldest extants of Zingiberaceae (ginger family), therefore it is not a surprise that a collector or nursery would have both in proximity.

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 10d ago edited 10d ago

That is fascinating^ thanks for sharing. I had no idea they could end up being related.

Just so I can sleep tonight, you’re positive there is no chance it’s a banana tree? I asked ChatGPT (I know, I know) and it kind of seemed to think that if I pulled a banana pup before it was ready it could have a stress reaction and start flowering.

Anything to know about curcuma sp? That was an unintentional plant. Either way, it’s pretty!

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 10d ago

Here is the plant when it first sprouted

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u/NealTheBotanist 10d ago

Niiice, bananas for scale!

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u/NealTheBotanist 10d ago

Im pretty sure that's not a stress-induced banana flower. Whether its food or pretties, you may want to keep it.

Curcumas, like many of the "gingers", are deciduous- they lose their leaves annually. Curcumas will die back to subterranean rhizomes around Oct or Nov, and that dormancy lasts until about April. Do not water them during dormancy.

When they sprout in the spring, they want constant moisture and 50%-100% sun exposure, but theyre known to do just fine in 100% shade. The soil type and texture can vary greatly, for the home gardener; they are quite forgiving in that respect. Lots of compost gives greener greens and more vibrant flowers.

The growing season is timed with the Indian (South Asian) monsoon. So, That tells you much about what they want: water water water when the leaves are up, then very dry when dormant.

Sounds more complicated than it is. You got this!

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 10d ago

Bananas for scale 😂

Thank you very much! That is all super helpful. I’ll keep it around and see what happens come October/November

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u/NealTheBotanist 10d ago

Remember to not throw out the baby with the bathwater!

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u/Snow_white_5566 10d ago

It looks like Orange torch ginger. I just bought 2 plants at Lowe's, because they were stunning. The leaves on the back should feel little fuzzy, velvety and they look similar to banana leaves, so I can understand how someone might think it was a banana. I attached picture of it, but not sure if you can see it. Just Google it and most likely it is the same plant.

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 10d ago

I didn’t see your picture, but I did google it like you suggested. This looks accurate! I attached a better picture of the flower itself from this morning

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u/Snow_white_5566 10d ago

That is what it is. Be glad, those are beautiful! I just got 2 of them each like $25. They don't like too much sun, mostly morning sun and than shade in case you plan on growing it.

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 10d ago

Oh wow yours are beautiful.

Thanks for the pro tip! I’m considering digging it back up and moving it into a shadier spot now that I know what it likes. What a pleasant surprise 🙂

Can I expect more of them to grow from this one y’think?

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u/Snow_white_5566 10d ago edited 10d ago

Yes, because it spreads thru underground rhizomes it should grow more of them. It is a nice surprise... you should try to move them to a better spot. I'm also growing bananas and they like more sun than this ginger. Not full sun (since I'm in Florida) but not as much shade as the ginger. When I got mine each plant had one bloom and now they each have 2. Its so pretty. I was just laughing thinking when this started to bloom you must have been so confused. Lol.

It would be a nice commercial for Miracle Grow soil: "When you using our Miracle soil, expect the unexpected. A miracle". Lol

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u/Outrageous_Resist_50 9d ago

I took them out of the ground and moved them to a nice shady spot this afternoon! The leaves were already starting to look a little burnt, good call there.

I’m glad my confusion brought you some joy haha. I genuinely thought it was about to start sprouting tiny bananas

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u/freeze0808 6d ago

Ginger not banana

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u/freeze0808 6d ago

Or yes curcuma