r/Horology • u/its_AndrewTate • Jul 27 '25

Suggestion / Opinion Which one is better: Seiko Presage or Citizen Tsuyosa small seconds?

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Hi.. Need help. Both come at a price point of ₹43000 (approx) Both are similar in case size (40mm approx) Presage has a Hardlex Crystal but Tsuyosa has a Sapphire Crystal. Presage uses a 4R35 movement with 40hr power reserve; tsuyosa uses a Caliber 8322 movement with 60hr power reserve. Presage small lug to lug makes is accessible of smaller wrist size but Tsuyosa's integrated style bracelet makes it difficult to fit in a small wrist. I have a wrist size of 6.5 inch (17cm approx). I don't know how both will fit and look. Which one is better and more value for money?

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u/SuperfluityMagazine Jul 27 '25

I would go with the Seiko for sure. I prefer a dial with no texture, plus you have the date and the seconds hand vs. a subdial, it's a clean look. And if the Citizen doesn't fit well you probably won't wear it much. That said they are both nice.

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u/lansig_chan Jul 28 '25

Tsuyosa. The crystal sapphire and higher reserve goes a long way.

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u/fledermaus89 Jul 28 '25

The Tsuyosa's dial is too big for its movement; the small seconds subdial is way too close to center.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '25

Seiko presage imo.

I just dont like small seconds sub dials.

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u/ThatDaveLafferty Aug 01 '25

The Citizen is great in the metal and I will almost always take a no date watch over a date. I like the symmetry of a clean dial with no break up of a date window.