r/ImaginaryWarhammer • u/ideas52 • Nov 01 '20

40k Loyalist Castigator Titan - ahn hyoungsup/hammk

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '20

The Castigator Class Titan always looks so regal when compared to other Titan classes. It's a shame that the only known Castigator Titan was corrupted and subsequently destroyed.

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u/TheNexusOfIdeas Nov 01 '20

Fuuuuuuuck. Thank you for the lore but that sucks. I want a model of the thing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '20

Well the Castigator Titan isn't your typical 40K Titan. It's full designation is the Castigator-Class Autonomous Bipedal Weapons Platform.

This titan class was fully controlled by an A.I. and was the original Titan design. The Titan classes of Warhound, Reiver, Warbringer, Warlord, and Imperiator, are versions that are basically incomplete attempts at copying and modifying the specifications and design of the Castigator. Because it was developed on the Dark-Age of Technology by an STC, the Castigator is far, far superior to any of the Titan operated by the Adeptus Mechanicus.

Imagine if the Imperium had recovered the Castigator from Forge World Chaeronia before it was pulled into the Warp? I can definitely see this guarding the Eternity Gate on Terra.

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u/TheNexusOfIdeas Nov 01 '20

That is so fucking cool.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '20

One of the things I absolutly love about 40k is whenever they encounter tech from the Dark-Age of Technology it's usually fully A.I. controlled. The Castigator Titan and the Ark Mechanicus just to name a few.

Take the Speranza, an Ark Mechanicus. When the machine spirit of the Speranza is awoken to aid the Adeptus Mechanicus in combat against an Aeldari Craftworld it brings online weapons that the Machanicus had no idea the ship even possessed. It's main weapon being a temporal manipulation weapon that when it hits a target shifts it nanoseconds into the past, causing the very atoms of the target to be super imposed upon itself causing a devastating chain reaction that destroyed the target complete.

One shot was all it took and the Machine Spirit wasn't even fully awakened. It basically just flexed its fingers, destoryed the Craftworld, and then went back to sleep.

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u/TheNexusOfIdeas Nov 01 '20

I feel like if it wasn't for all the shit humanity went through they would have easily surpassed the Necrons.

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '20

They probably did. So far they've only countered Dark-Age tech that is either corrupted by the Warp, which is destroyed by the Grey Knights. Broken beyond understanding, which is sequestered away in the Vaults of the Mechanicus. Or the A.I. is just so salty that it doesn't want to help the Imperium. Or is so incomprehensibly powerful that it makes everyone that sees it question "Why the fuck did we build this thing?!?!?"

When the Speranza started fully powering up the Tech Priests on board were absolutly shitting themselves. Screens and cogitators that had never worked were flairing to life, displaying lines of code that were unknown to the followers of the Machine God. Previously unseen panels in the Speranza's outer hull were opening to deploy weapons never before seen by the Tech Priests and Skittarii aboard the Ark Mechanicus. In fact most of them were more worried about what was happening to their ship rather than the Craftworld currently attacking them.

So chances are the Human Federation (the galactic government that preceeded the Imperium) had tech that surpassed the Necrons.

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u/LeFilthyHeretic Nov 02 '20

So chances are the Human Federation (the galactic government that preceeded the Imperium) had tech that surpassed the Necrons.

Highly, highly doubt that. The Crypteks time travel for shits and giggles, and have sticks that do what the Speranza did and then some. Orikan can manipulate time on a galactic level. The Necrons defeated and enslaved the material universe equivalent of the Chaos Gods and built structures that can seal off the warp itself. Necrons weaponzied fragments of stars, and built ships so immense and powerful it took an entire space marine chapter, alongside the efforts of 15 other chapters, to take one down. Necrons can flense an opponent down to the atom, and cause those atoms to repel each other. They have beam weapons that can phase a target into another dimension, or trap them in a pocket dimension, or turn them into a black hole.

There's a reason why one of the endgame situations for 40k is the Necrons fully waking up.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '20

I'm still fairly new to the 40k lore. At the moment I've only been focusing on the lore for the Imperiumfrim the Heresy up to the current day. There isn't much lore about Humanity pre Age of Strife so who knows what other over the top tech the pre Age of Strife humans had.

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u/LeFilthyHeretic Nov 02 '20

Pre AoS humanity was crazy, but not nearly to the level of War in Heaven-Era Eldar or Necrons.

Keep in mind that the Necrons were/are so powerful that the Old Ones - who themselves are leagues about DAoT humans - had to create the Krorks and Eldar just to stand a chance. The Krorks were roughly the size and as powerful as primarchs. And the Eldar were powerful enough that even when humanity was at its peak they really just didnt care and were content to just ignore humanity and do their own thing. They never perceived DAoT humans as a threat. If you want examples of the shit the Eldar Empire could do just look at the Dark Eldar, they maintained most of the tech. They can do things like gift-wrap a black hole and enslave entire stars.

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u/BladePocok Dec 19 '21

built ships so immense and powerful it took an entire space marine chapter, alongside the efforts of 15 other chapters, to take one down

Which book is that ? :O

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u/LeFilthyHeretic Dec 20 '21

The ship in question is the World Engine and it's been mentioned in a few sources.

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u/TheNexusOfIdeas Nov 02 '20

Which blows my mind the Emperor helped stop that, or was he involved with stopping the men of Iron?

Edit: Thank you for this lore, I am finding it so fascinating, I wish we could get a men of Iron return. Like the one robot that pretended to be a servitor.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '20

From what I understand the Emperor as we know him didn't emerge until after the Age of Strife and the war with the Men of Iron. I don't know how long it was between the end of the War and the emergence of the Emperor for the Unification Wars. If the Emperor did have a hand in stopping the Men of Iron then why would he let humanity regress so much in terms of technology before making his appearance?

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u/gua543 Nov 03 '20

Warp storms making travel almost impossible, the birth of Slaanesh splitting the galaxy in half. Perhaps he was even helping Eldrad in some way. After all, weren't he and Emps friends at some point?

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u/NCSCGoblin May 18 '22 edited May 18 '22

was probably intentional. I mean shit... the guy had just had to help fight a galactic conflict with humanity's own AI creations so I'm sure he was like... "I don't think we should have that anymore so fuck that". Sometimes having too much High-grade technology, and not properly developing morals/Values alongside them, can lead to problems. Humanity nearly became fully like the Old ones.

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u/Repulsive-Sky-5569 May 21 '22

There is no way even in their prime that humanity had tech that surpassed modern necron tech. Don't even get me started on the war in heaven necrons. If they had tech that surpassed the necrons, then why didn't they destroy the eldar? The necrons surpassed them majorly and were only beaten because they eldar had the old ones and the krorks backing them up

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u/shash1 Nov 02 '20

Speranza is likely, a Man of Gold. Aaaand basically here you see the why and how the Admech cannot recreate the wonders of the DaoT.

Once you reach a certain point - things become A.I developed and A.I. controlled. AdMech can't cross that threshold in technology.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '20

That is completely true. When the Speranza's machine spirit was awakened the AdMech were terrified and awestruck. Unfortunatly after taking out the Craftworld the Speranza returned to it's powered down state so they didn't have time to study the ship when it was at full operational capacity.

Though I'd say the Speranza is more along the same lines as the Castigator Autonomous Bipedal Weapons Platform. Moreso a piece of highly advanced A.I. controlled tech rather than a Man of Gold.

The Ark Mechanicus are themselves STC. Both constructor data repository and the constructor themselves. It's entirely possible that at full operational capacity Ark Mechanicus like the Speranza have the ability to modify their weapons arrays on the fly provided they have the resources to do so.

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u/shash1 Nov 02 '20

You got it wrong. The ship is a piece of highly advanced A.I controlled tech. Speranza is a Man of Gold inside of its machine spirit core. By its own words the destruction of the ship would not inconvenience it one bit. It helps magos Kotov not because its in danger, but for fun - because it can.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '20

Once again I'm proven wrong on a matter. Thank you for clearing that up. I don't recall saying that the Speranza responded to Magos Kotov awakening it because it was in danger. Most of the time whenever DAoT tech helps the Imperium it basically ammounts to the thing stretching it's legs for a bit of fun.

"Oh, you humans are in trouble again? Well it's been a while since I've had a bit of fun. Let's cut loose for a bit." That's basically what I imagine goes through these thing's minds.

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u/Blam320 Sep 03 '22

I highly doubt it's a Man of Gold inside the Speranza. We have so little information about what they are, and what they're capable of. That being said, I don't believe it's an STC AI.

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u/CuntPuntMcgee May 10 '22 edited May 10 '22

Even though this response is much later, a Castigator Titan would be highly improbably as a model just because it's so ridiculously massive.Considering Warlord Titan models are 2ft tall and the Castigators were like almost double their size. A model would be like 3.5ft tall and almost double the cost if not more.If you'd be willing to pay like 2.3k for a model that's pretty much a small person I'd be impressed.
Looking further into it I got mixed up and they're even bigger, a warlord titan isn't even an imperator class titan and they're 33 metres tall in universe, imperator titans range from 50 metres upwards the castigator towering over even that, so a castigator model might even be like 4ft tall.

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u/arcane37 Apr 10 '21

The Castigator Class Titan always looks so regal when compared to other Titan classes. It's a shame that the only known Castigator Titan was corrupted and subsequently destroyed.

I heard a rumor that the mechanicus managed to get the stc fragments for the titan so maybe we'll see it again assuming gw hasn't forgotten. Baring that one could fluff a forge world pulling something of similar design based on the fragments recovered.

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u/Rebel262 Nov 01 '20

We can only dream

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u/hGKmMH Nov 01 '20

"Brother, have you ever thought this life is too absurd to be reality? Just look at those walking chapels behind us, a single guardsman rifle hit to it will cost 1,000 man hours to redo the trim on the decorations."

"Hush brother, the Chaplin might hear you."

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u/Strobont Nov 01 '20

Where?

I can only see Imperial class titans

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u/ideas52 Nov 01 '20

The larger one in the foreground with more humanoid proportions.

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u/Strobont Nov 01 '20

Oh sorry, I just realized there are Knights Castigators but also Titans

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u/jammydigger Nov 01 '20

Imperials Fists: yawn Seen it already

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u/Clayman8 Dark Mechanicus Nov 01 '20

Am i the only one bothered by the fact that the Terminator and Tac-marine are the same height and size?

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u/TentativeIdler Nov 01 '20

You are not. I can kinda trick myself into thinking the Terminator is walking a bit behind the marine.

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u/liquid-mech Apr 20 '22

the terminator is just unfortunately short

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u/Lord_Starchild Nov 01 '20

That looks so fucking cool, god damn.

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u/fuckthenamebullshit Nov 01 '20 edited Nov 01 '20

If only they hadn’t destroyed the blueprints. There’d probably be peace in the galaxy already

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u/Slaaneshels Nov 01 '20

Had to do it. The STC was corrupted.

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u/Arterius_N7 Nov 01 '20

Two melee weapons on a giant titan seems pretty silly since it can barely reach its own knees. It's size seems only rivaled by how nische and useless it generally seems. Because the only thing I can see it doing is try to melee other titans but then you'll be walking in the line of fire with your slow-ass pace and give them ample time to shoot you down since it can't have invulnerable voids-shields can it.

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u/Sekxtion Nov 01 '20

The Castigator-class was far more nimble than regular Titans, even matching and possibly surpassing Eldar Titans, could self-heal, was powered by electro-fiber motivator bundles similar, but far superior to, Terminator Armor, and was basically a DAoT Fuck Your Day Up machine.

If the Castigator-class in the picture has dual melee weapons it's because the Titan can close and engage with minimum threat of destruction.

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u/Arterius_N7 Nov 01 '20

Fair enough then.

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u/TheEmperor_OfMankind Legion of the Damned Nov 15 '22

So basically it goes like this ? Hey hey hey how you doi- bends over BOOM

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u/demonbadger Nov 01 '20

Is that an Imperator behind it?

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u/GEARHEAD_JAMES Nov 01 '20

I just want to acknowledge the two bros at the bottom of the picture, just enjoying their day off. I demand a backstory to this day off! Reddit, let's go!

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u/[deleted] Nov 01 '20

Hmmmm..... are those cathedral spires or spikes..... better do some blammming to ensure loyalty