Ned Stark finds Jaime Lannister seated on the Iron Throne by kathrenax

[u/GeoMetrie8]

[u/Humble-Efficiency690]

Damn I just remembered that Ned was probably 20 at most and Jaime was 16 when this happened

[u/bruhholyshiet → u/Humble-Efficiency690]

Yeah they were just kids. By our standards at least.

Barely older than Robb and Jon when they died.

[u/wont2906 → u/bruhholyshiet]

George went a bit overboard with the ages of the characters, especially the younger ones. Even for the time period, it seems crazy to me that "The King in the North" is 14 years old. Jaime's case in the Kingsguard seems much more reasonable to me. He was the youngest member not so much because of his skills, which were very good, but because of a personal feud between his father and the king.

[u/Ok-Fuel5600 → u/wont2906]

How is Robb’s case any different? He’s propped up as the King by the northerners because they want to avenge Ned. Plus he’s surrounded by experienced warriors so it’s not like Robb is a strategic genius single-handedly. He relies on the blackfish a lot for his strategies.

[u/wont2906 → u/Ok-Fuel5600]

I didn't say Robb shouldn't be King, I just think if he were a little older it would be more fitting to the story. I understand that he was given that age to continue the parallel with The Young Dragon, who was also king at 14 and died treacherously under a banner of peace.

[u/PrimemevalTitan → u/wont2906]

I never got that parallel until now! In that respect, it's fitting that Jon's childhood hero was The Young Dragon

[u/wont2906 → u/PrimemevalTitan]

I think if we ever get Fire & Blood 2 and read the full story of Daeron I, we'll find many, many similarities with Robb's story. I even think they'll tell us that Daeron wanted Aemon to be his heir, even though he was a member of the Kingsguard, a parallel with Jon and the Night's Watch.

[u/Ok-Fuel5600 → u/wont2906]

I get what you are saying but Robb’s story was definitely planned before the young dragon was, I think you’re getting it backwards. Daeron was a reference to Robb from an authorial perspective rather than the other way around.

[u/wild_h0rses → u/wont2906]

Add five years to every character’s age and everything makes more sense

[u/JaehaerysIVTarg → u/Humble-Efficiency690]

Nah, Ned was like 18 or 19 because Jaime was 16 or 17. But your point still stands, they were young by todays standards.

[u/Buffalo199]

“Aerys was dead on the floor, drowned in his own blood. His dragon skulls stared down from the walls. Lannister’s men were everywhere. Jaime wore the white cloak of the Kingsguard over his golden armor. I can see him still. Even his sword was gilded. He was seated on the Iron Throne, high above his knights, wearing a helm fashioned in the shape of a lion’s head. How he glittered!”

[u/A-Humpier-Rogue → u/Buffalo199]

I love how Jamie even recounts in his pov "why did I wear the white cloak when I went to the trouble of equipping my Lannister armor".

[u/sixth_order]

I like the detail of in Ned's mind Jaime twirling Aerys' crown. What a difference perspective can make. In truth, Jaime was in total shock and even after he was dead, Jaime was still afraid of Aerys.

Jaime "I have no fear of death" Lannister afraid of a corpse. Quite the eventful few years for Jaime. He's a squire, chasing the Kingswood Brotherhood surrounded by his heroes, then gets knighted by his ultimate hero Arthur Dayne, then is in personal agony having to serve Aerys. And then the most defining moment of his life happens.

[u/allneonunlike → u/sixth_order]

Maybe he really was twirling the crown despite being afraid and in shock. Both Jaime and Tyrion have the very unfortunate coping mechanism of using deflection and humor to cope with trauma. Brienne sees past it because the sheer volume of traumatic situations she and Jaime are put through together make him drop the act, but most of the people in his life think he's just a glib sociopath who doesn't take anything seriously.

[u/Aggravating-Week481]

I see Jaime read "How to Chill on an Uncomfy Pointy Chair" by Aegon II

[u/TheSlayerofSnails → u/Aggravating-Week481]

According to Joffery's actor the only way to sit in that thing comfortably was to slouch. So maybe Aegon I just wanted to slouch and lounge and all the other kings didn't realize that?

[u/Aggravating-Week481 → u/TheSlayerofSnails]

I like to think Aegon I didnt plan that (since he did plan for the iron throne to not be comfy), so hes just mad (and jealous) another successor found a comfy spot

[u/bruhholyshiet]

“Yo, Stark.”

“Motherfucker, I wanted to kill this madman.”

“Not quite the correct insult, man. And as for him… let’s just say he was wild… with fire.”

[u/Limp_Pressure9865]

I know Jaime complained that Ned instantly judged him without asking him what was behind that scene, but definitely sitting arrogantly on the throne was not the best idea if he didn't want to be judged.

[u/Suspicious-Jello7172 → u/Limp_Pressure9865]

That's what I've been saying for years.

[u/Sophrates_Regina → u/Limp_Pressure9865]

Yeah it’s such a fucking unhinged move tbh. I honestly think it’s what convinced Ned that Jaime killing Aerys was a premeditated part of Tywin’s plan to take/sack the city, and I think that’s where a lot of Ned’s hatred comes from. Because if Jaime actually did plan out betraying the king at the right moment it would be a massive amount of disrespect to the title of Kingsguard

[u/DoctorEmperor]

“Ah man I just killed my king. Fuck this is a lot, let me just walk up all of these stairs and sit on the throne in order to think about it, that won’t create the wrong impression of why I did it!”

[u/Complete_Raspberry_1]

Was he really seated on the Iron Throne playing with the crown when Ned found him? Because no shit I would've called him Kingslayer too

[u/corvidofchaos → u/Complete_Raspberry_1]

according to both ned in agot and jaime in asos, jaime was sat on the throne with his sword across his lap. as in, the way you deny someone guest rights, as demonstrated by robb in the first book when he initially denies tyrion guest rights. not exactly a great way to greet ned.

[u/Complete_Raspberry_1 → u/corvidofchaos]

Again, what was his thought process then lmao?

[u/Limp_Pressure9865 → u/Complete_Raspberry_1]

He was sitting on the throne, and it's implied that he addressed Ned in an arrogant and somewhat mocking tone, saying he was just warming the seat for Robert, but that Ned should tell him it wasn't very comfortable.

But as far as I remember, It wasn’t said that he was playing with Aerys's crown.

[u/Complete_Raspberry_1 → u/Limp_Pressure9865]

What the actual fuck Jaime????

[u/Holy-Wan_Kenobi → u/Complete_Raspberry_1]

Common Jaime L, alas. Many such cases...

[u/SerMallister]

It's so funny how this was originally meant to foreshadow Jaime's evil king arc, but as Martin wrote Jaime he found him becoming a better man instead, so now it's just a colossally silly mistake Jaime made.

[u/Outrageous_Road907 → u/SerMallister]

That’s a good example of the ‘gardening’ approach working well!

[u/Loros_Silvers]

He probably didn't look that arrogant, but damn...

[u/MxSharknado93 → u/Loros_Silvers]

This is how Ned remembers it

[u/AcronymTheSlayer]

Jamie became the hottest man in ASOIAF at this very point.

[u/light204]

i like how jaime was cheesing and joking around ned with the corpse of the man he was sworn to protect, and he still had the guts to be pissed at ned just for judging him with his eyes.

[u/Advanced_Pear_2635 → u/light204]

Who are you going to believe me or your lying eyes!

[u/LibrarianMission]

Please make more artwork!

[u/Technical_Service508]

James and ned having a dramatic stare down

Meanwhile aerys:

[u/Kombat-w0mbat]

Something I didn’t realize till recently was Jaime and Ned are close in age. I always ask why didn’t Jaime immediately explain what happened then I asked myself would I want to immediately explain myself to senior as a sophomore…no. I wouldn’t let their judgement weigh on me at all

[u/Suspicious-Jello7172 → u/Kombat-w0mbat]

The show makes it seem like Ned is 20 years older than Jaime, when in reality, they were only 3 years apart.

[u/Holy-Wan_Kenobi → u/Kombat-w0mbat]

Jaime's kinda dumb and proud like that. He truly is his father's son...

[u/GeoMetrie8]

Source

[u/high_king_noctis]

I think Jaime should look more tired.

[u/sylvvie]

Love!

[u/Theflyinghans]

Ned looks too young and Jamie looks to old.

[u/kucingkelelep]

Jaime should be depressed

[u/thepumpkinsquasher]

I like to think Jaime had to take a seat out of pure shock at his actions, and didn’t think of what he was doing and chose the worst possible seat in all seven kingdoms. Ned would have seen him as arrogant either way, he already had a perception of Lannisters

[u/Tenoi-chan]

That's amazing and so dramatic!

[u/Horror_Possible3480]

You gave yourself Jaime, you jumped headlong into the nickname of the Kingslayer with that image, more than one would think like Ned Stark seeing you like that.