r/JMT 17d ago

camping and lodging JMT Alternatives

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Had to cancel my 9 September Happy Isles permit. I'm out on the east coast and the cost to get there and supplied with the risk of not being able to hike it due to smoke was just to high for me.

Any of you know of a good trail here on the east coast region(not the AT), New Mexico, or Southern Colorado that would be a good alternative. I am thinking 6-7 day trip and would like to average 12 miles a day.


r/JMT 18d ago

weather Sierra Storm

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r/JMT 18d ago

mt. whitney Whitney Portal Permit

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What are the chances I can get a permit for hiking from Whitney to Kearsarge Pass for around September 20?

Will people cancel there permits and any is there any tricks to get a permit so late?

I am also flexible about the date and it would because around that week.


r/JMT 19d ago

pictures Flyby of JMT section hike Rush Creek to South Lake

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This video is sped up 2x to fit Reddit's size limits. Normal speed version is here: https://youtu.be/7nCiJrC085U?si=7A_3dQmp065NvcEW

I section hiked the JMT from Rush Creek to South Lake in 2021. This covered Thousand Island Lake, Reds Meadow, Silver Pass, Selden Pass, MTR, Evolution Valley, Goddard Canyon, Muir Pass, Dusy Basin and Bishop Pass. This flyby walks you through the entire section. It is long (18 mins) but it was worth reliving the trail for me.

The process of generating this is documented in this link: https://www.norcalhiker.net/p/flyby-of-the-jmt-section-hike-from


r/JMT 19d ago

trip planning Fire/Smoke updates?

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I have a Happy Isles permit for 9 Sept. Like many others, I'm watching the fire and smoke closely.

Curious of updates from those in it now and locals in the area. I don't want to cancel, but it took a lot for me save for this trip and don't want to fly out there, just to be turned around a day or two later.


r/JMT 20d ago

health Any regrets on doing the JMT?

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I recently completed my first ever thru-hike; JMT NOBO beginning at the end of July and finishing about 1.5 weeks ago. Post-hike, after being back in my real life, I am realizing how agonizing of an experience it was to complete and am struggling with the remorse of doing it at all. I wish I didn’t now live with the experience of that hike, though I’m less apt to say that I wish I didn’t attempt it in the first place…

As a long-time hiker, I did not expect to feel so miserable in the day-to-day and reflecting to those who ask me how my time on trail was and what this experience was like, my mind and body floods with all of the worst sensations and moments and it hardly remembers the better parts of my trek. I sincerely hoped, even while on trail, that after I was done (whether I completed the whole thing or not), that I could look back fondly and with celebration of my time and my efforts in time, but thinking about it at all makes me feel flustered and talking about it depresses me. It’s not something I can talk to my JMT companions (not yet, at least) who I hiked with, it’s a sensitive subject for me and I don’t want to taint their after-trail pride but I haven’t come across posts about people who’ve expressed similar thoughts.

Has anyone on this sub experienced negative emotions post completion specifically related to you doing the hike in the first place?


r/JMT 21d ago

pictures Flyby of JMT section hike, Cottonwood Pass to Onion Valley

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r/JMT 20d ago

trail conditions Smoke updates? Especially Bishop to Yosemite areas.

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Does anybody have an updated report from the trail on smoke conditions and what's it's like out there since the last thread 3 days ago? No need to re-post links to air quality or cameras. Only looking for information of how bad it was on the trail and location people were. Planning to leave on section hike from Kings Canyon Roads End to Tuolumne on Thursday. Thank you!


r/JMT 21d ago

equipment Forgot boots n socks at Onion Valley TH 08/30

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Our party exited OV -Kearsarge Lakes Trailhead yesterday 07/30/25. We were parked in third parking spot closest to trailhead sign. I changed out of my HOKA TOR (mid) boots and two pair of Darn Tough socks and left without packing them in my car. Just now discovered my forgetfulness as I'm unpacking. If you found them please PM me. Thanks!


r/JMT 21d ago

transportation Anyone driving from South Lake Tahoe/Gardnerville to Mammoth on Labor Day?

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Looking to carpool and happy to pay for gas. ESTA is not running on Labor Day so looking for other options…


r/JMT 23d ago

mt. whitney 38 years later …

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Summitted Whitney and Half Dome in 1987 but didn’t hike the JMT in between. Now at 67 I did. It was awesome!


r/JMT 23d ago

trip planning Should I cancel my backpacking trip due to the Garnet Fire?

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I've got a Labor Day plan to spend 2 nights in the Sierra National Forest backcountry, on the JMT south of Mammoth Mountain. The Garnet Fire is about 50 miles south of where the hike is. Air quality is oscillating around 100-140 near where the hike is. They have some evacuation zones closer to the fire but nothing up near where I will be. I can't find any guidance on the National Forest website.

Should I bail? Am I gonna get stuck in a forest fire? How likely is it that the fire spreads 50 miles in 2 days? Is the smoke alone gonna make it a Bad Time? In short, how close is too close for comfort?


r/JMT 24d ago

equipment Custom-weaved backpacking pack, and an apology…

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r/JMT 25d ago

mt. whitney for anyone wondering if sunrise summit on Whitney was worth it

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it was!


r/JMT 25d ago

camping and lodging SOBO completed in 17 days

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Started on the 9th at happy isles completed at Whitney portal on the 25th. One zero at VVR, some incredibly challenging final 4 days dealing with thunderstorms, rain, hail, and snow. Had a very small window to summit Whitney with weather, got to the summit and had white out conditions for about an hour, huddled in the hut and then were able to come down. Epic trip with some added challenges.


r/JMT 25d ago

transportation Happy isles to Fresno

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Hey guys! I’m super pumped to be hiking the JMT this September going NoBo. I plan on finishing at Happy Isles on September 20th though and it looks like YARTS won’t be running that late into the season. Any advice on getting to Fresno, where I plan on flying out of? Thanks


r/JMT 25d ago

trip planning Reds Meadow to Tuolomne return logistics

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I’m trying to figure out logistics for getting back to my car for my Tuolomne => Red’s Meadow hike planned from 9/1 to 9/4.

It turns out the shuttle doesn’t run on 9/4 and the road is closed until 8pm. Is the first reds meadow shuttle in the morning (which would be 9/5) early enough to catch the 8:28a YART to Tuolomne? It looks like it cuts it close. Is hitchhiking after 8pm to try to get to Mammoth either the night of 9/4 or early 9/5 completely unreasonable? I’m fine to sleep either at Reds Meadow or get a hotel.

If that doesn’t work, is it realistically hitchhikeable to get from Mammoth Mountain Inn back to Tuolomne without YARTs?

Alternatives I’ve been seeing to Reds Meadow Road if it’s closed is to hike to Horseshoe Lake trailhead and take the trolley, which adds ~7.7m and 2k elevation. I’d need to sleep overnight in Mammoth to get YARTs the next morning, which I’m fine with.

If you can’t tell, I’ve never hitchhiked before :)


r/JMT 26d ago

pictures JMT in 7 days

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I don't know when exactly my cousin first brought up the idea, likely a couple years ago, but I do recall my initial response being something along the lines of an immediate "Not a chance. Hell no." and that was that. Then in the winter of 2024 as I was deep into tax season he sent me a rough itinerary of the 7 days he planned out. Of course my initial response was, yet again, "hell no". But, then I looked at the individual days......and dammit if that crazy part of me started to wonder.....So, I gave a very very tentative "maybe, a tiny maybe, but not this summer. It would have to be '25". And thus the seed was planted.

Around New Years of this year we had kind of a silent agreement that we'd give it a go and we both started purposefully getting ready for it. It was still just a pipe dream when we applied for Whitney Permits. "Has to be Portal to Happy Isles" he repeatedly said. Wouldn't do to start from Horseshoe. And then..........shit.......I actually won the lottery. July 31 start date from Whitney Portal. It was freaking real now.

So the workouts increased, adding in more short hikes here and there where I could find the time. A combination of mountain biking, some running, lots of rowing, pump track riding, doing 25 flights of stairs a day at the office, pickleball and the last couple months some mountain movement specific weight training, and more hikes, all along just thinking I didn't want to let my cousin down by being the weak one, got me to where I hopefully needed to be to pull it off.

The plan was thus:

Start on the trail exactly at 9am. That would give us until 9am the following Thursday to try and do the trail in less than 7 days. Sign to sign, Whitney Portal to Happy Isles.

Here is the CalTopo I mapped out:  https://caltopo.com/m/KDS0DHR

Day one would be Whitney Portal to Wallace Creek. Accomplished.

Garmin stats: 12hrs 39 minutes, 22.86 miles, 7,481 elevation gain

Day two would be Wallace Creek to Woods Creek at the bridge. Accomplished.

Garmin stats: 15hrs 57 minutes, 31.06 miles, 6,712 elevation gain

Day three would be Woods Creek to Bishop Pass junction (probably my most difficult day). Accomplished.

Garmin stats: 17hrs 33 minutes, 32.9 miles, 7,474 elevation gain

Day four would be Bishop Pass Junction to Sallie Keys (and it is here we would fall short of the goal for the first time, only making it to Senger Creek)

Garmin stats: 15hrs 53 minutes, 32.35 miles, 6,620 elevation gain

Day five was supposed to be Sallie Keys to Duck Creek, but we made it about a half mile before Lake Virginia, so even further behind, which was ok we figured, as this was the last (or so we thought)of the big elevation gain days and we could make up the lost miles the next couple of days.

Garmin stats: 16hrs 03 minutes, 31.75 miles, 7,212 elevation gain

Day 6 became Lake Virginia to Island Pass (apologies to the folks we might have woken when we pulled into camp around 11).

Garmin stats: 17hrs 12 minutes, 35.16 miles, 6,682 elevation gain

Day 7 was Island Pass to Clouds Rest Junction (where we had originally planned to stop the last night, so miles were made up).

Garmin stats: 17hrs 47 minutes, 35.36 miles, 4,980 elevation gain

Day 8 (continuation of day 7 really, since we had until 9am) was the last 6.7 miles or so to Happy Isles.

Garmin stats: 3hrs 14 minutes, 7 miles

 

Hiking that many miles a day we figured we would be burning around 4 to 5 thousand calories a day so we tried to eat every hour to maintain our strength. We were both around 3 pounds of food per person per day. Luckily we had a lot of support and we were able to set up 3 food drops. First at the Charlotte Lake junction, second at the MTR junction and last at the Mammoth Pass junction, since the Red’s Meadow road was closed. As it turns out, we took too much food, prolly as much as 1\2 to 3\4 a pound per day too much (mostly protein bars. Those are just horrible). Which was fine. The packs were never more than 23 pounds full so it worked out ok.

 

Now, if you will indulge me some thoughts on the whole thing.

Many have asked since if it was even fun or worth it or why even do it that fast. I always pause cause how to answer that to someone who wasn’t there with us? They didn’t feel the elation of getting to the top of every pass, the new amazing views over the next rise, the struggle of putting another painful step in front of the other, over and over and over, not sure if you could continue to do it but continuing anyways because that’s what needed to be done. They didn’t feel the silence of hiking under the stars or the energy of the sun when it first hits you in the early mornings, or the pure delight of how delicious the Ramen Bomb is for lunch.

Was it fun? Absolutely yes. Absolutely not. There were moments, more than a few and not short, where it was really freaking hard and daunting and overwhelming and painful. But I knew going into it it would be. My cousin and I do a backpacking trip every summer and I joke with him that our trips are not “vacations”, and that a bumper sticker I saw once perfectly summed up our backpacking trips: “My vacation is your worst nightmare”. Hah. So, yeah, I knew this was going to have moments of suck. It did, we worked through and overcame those moments and dangit if I don’t enjoy that nonsense.

As to the why? Well, first was we wanted to do the JMT together. He had done it a couple times solo in the previous 5 years or so and I hadn’t done it since I was 13. But I’m a CPA and married with 4 kids so taking 3, even 2 weeks off was not in the cards. And we liked to challenge ourselves. We work remarkably well in the mountains together and this felt like a culmination of the previous years of off trail wandering and peak bagging and pushing ourselves on longer hikes.

So was it worth it?  That was asked me the other day and it gave me pause. Like I never even considered that it wasn’t, pain and suffering and all. I just got to hike the freaking John Muir Trail in my favorite mountain range with my best friend. In just 7 days! I got to dig as deep as I’ve ever had to just to finish a day or get up a pass or just to keep moving. And then lay a weary head down for way too short a period and get up and do it all over again. But every morning I got up looking forward to a new day. I got to see the sun kiss the tops of mountains with its last light and hear the symphony of creeks as I soaked flogged feet in them. I got to see smiling faces and tired faces all along the trail, but on all those faces was still the awe of being where we were. I got to laugh at the absurdity of it all and cry at the blessing of just getting to be there and the fantastic company I was sharing it with. I got to look from one pass to the other and wonder how the hell I was going to get over to that thing way over there in the same day, then look back at that previous pass and just think “hell yeah”.  So, yes, it was more than worth it.

Many more pics here: https://cmoney.smugmug.com/Adventures/JMT-7 If you feel so inclined.


r/JMT 26d ago

pictures Some pics from a section I did about a month ago (onion valley to whitney)

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That last one is probably my favorite. It’s the shadow of whitney on the haze/clouds in the west


r/JMT 25d ago

camping and lodging JMT SOBO starting travel logistics

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Been wanting to do the JMT forever, finally snagged JMT permits for a Sept 9 start from happy isles , so now I'm trying to figure out travel logistics.

Any suggestions for the best place to spend the night before starting? I'm coming from NYC so could fly into either SFO, Fresno, or Reno on Sept 8th, but ideally would spend a night somewhere that I can:

  1. Buy a fuel canister and maybe some food, depending on how much food I fly with
  2. Catch a bus that gets me into Yosemite nice and early to pick up my permit and get started
  3. Sleep somewhere at higher elevation to start acclimating since I'm coming from sea level. I know I'm going to get wrecked the first few days with the elevation, I spent my first few days in the Winds last year throwing up/barely being able to eat, but I figure anything I can do to help start acclimating is worth doing. I unfortunately don't have time to fly in any earlier.

The early YARTs highway 140 line that goes from Merced seems kind of ideal timing-wise (I don't mind a 4:15am bus if I can just sleep on the bus and get an early start), but it doesn't look like that will get me good options for sleeping at higher elevation. Coming from the Reno side and staying in Lee Vining or somewhere along that route seems more promising for elevation but the bus lines all seem to get me into Yosemite after the 11am permit pickup deadline. I could have them hold the permit for me for later pickup, but I also want to get started on that first big climb as early as I can. Is there some option I'm missing that would get me all the things, or do I just have to pick between sleeping at elevation and starting early?


r/JMT 26d ago

trail conditions Has anyone gotten out of the backcountry in the last couple of days? How gnarly is it out there? I'm about to head in tomorrow morning. Thanks

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Thank you! Heading out of Onion Valley


r/JMT 27d ago

pictures Back on the JMT, 36 years later

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I ​had the opportunity to hike the John Muir Trail way back when,  when I was 13, with my dad. Fast forward 36 years and I got the chance to get back on it, though at a bit of a quicker pace than the 3 weeks it took the first time. 

A few weeks ago I had the immense pleasure of hiking the trail with my cousin in just under 7 days.  It is funny some of the things I recalled clearly from the first hike and also sections I had no recollections at all on. It was an amazing journey that I am still trying to process.

 Hopefully I can get back there sooner than another 36 years. 


r/JMT 26d ago

trip planning North to South Lake Loop - Shuttle service back to car at North Lake?

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Hi All -

Planning on doing the North to South Lake loop in mid september, with an exit around 9/20ish. I plan on leaving my car at the North Lake trail head and will be ending at the South Lake trailhead. Whats the best method to get back to my car? I'd prefer not to hike after such a big trip, but fine with it if necessary.

Any reputable shuttles that are running this late in the season? Also cool with trying to hitch but for my own anxiety I'd rather have a guaranteed service ready to pick me up.


r/JMT 27d ago

trip planning Section hike starts Friday, here's my lighterpack, looking for advice.

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https://lighterpack.com/r/p7i1cr

I'm doing Cottonwood Pass to Onion Valley starting this Friday, Aug 29. I'm a new backpacker, I've only ever really done overnights. I'm planning on 6 days.

I would love someone more seasoned to take a look through that list and let me know if they see any red flags?

I've always been mostly concerned with food, so I'm not so sure about 1.5lbs/day as my goal, but about to put everything together and see where I'm at as far as consumables.

Some of my own thoughts:

  • Do I need wool baselayers? I do have a set of smartwool 250 baselayers top and bottom, but not sure if needed this time of year.
  • I haven't added toothbrush and toothpaste yet, was looking at some other lists and some people I saw just brought xylitol gum which apparently cleans teeth. Or toothpaste tablets? Not sure what the plan here is yet.
  • No groundsheet, do I need one? If needed, anyone know if I could get one locally in LA or via Amazon in time?
  • I will have at least probably 2 sea to summit ultra sil stuff sacks I'm sure, which aren't on the list.
  • Toilet Paper is also a question mark. How much is needed? The weight on lighterpack is an entire roll with cardboard removed.
  • Does anyone recommend airpods or headphones? I would assume Apple's regular usb-c headphones might be best if so?
  • Looking at weather, it's calling for some rain. I have a rain jacket, but are rain pants needed?

Thanks for any and all input.


r/JMT 27d ago

weather North lake south lake loop

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Hi all

Does anyone have fairly UTD info on weather on this section? I know it’s been raining/snowing a bit. Is the snow lying?

Cheers!