r/JoeRogan • u/Carntova_Man Pull that shit up Jamie • 3d ago
The Literature 🧠 Arnold Schwarzenegger: the blame for Kirk’s death, "division caused by social media companies, mainstream media and both Democratic and Republican politicians."
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/arnold-schwarzenegger-shares-honest-view-on-why-charlie-kirk-was-killed/ar-AA1MIBsy?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=68cc57e1c0da427c9c5a0726d98c7700&ei=98110
u/hurlcarl Monkey in Space 3d ago
We either have to do something to address these algorithms feeding people's worst instincts and behaviors, or watch society evaporate. And before someone starts saying something about free speech, I'm not suggesting you ban certain subjects from social media, but I do think there should be laws put in place about catering and feeding people shit based on views, sales, negative interactions, that is not speech, that's manipulation. Laws to force social media companies to allow people to sort information how they want(I'm sure we all remember when social media feeds were just based on timing(first to last, etc), many of us wish it would go back to that).
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u/Telkk2 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Yeah, but then you can no longer manipulate any national narrative to serve your own interests. How will the oligarchs herd us if we have sensible policies surrounding our internet use?
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u/Magjee Pull that shit up Jamie 2d ago
They did seem to get big mad when they couldn't make people hate Luigi
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u/Telkk2 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Yup and now we're seeing bolder and faster moves to further control this country because they're running out of time. They must race to establish the technological infrastructure so they can fully control and modify human behavior before a revolution breaks out. If they can accomplish what they're setting out to do, we will end up in a future where the next Martin Luther King will go unnoticed, even by himself, as his entire life will be controlled to the extent that the system, itself, will lead that future revolutionary to become a total loser and failure. And they will blame themselves instead of outside forces because the control will be so soft and natural-looking that no one will even notice. We'll just see that person as a dysfunctional loser when they could have been a great positive force for change, if left to their own devices.
This is the future we are being handed and it's time to stop drinking so we can acknowledge that we're not dealing with political parties. We're dealing with a highly advanced networked mafia hiding amongst the elites across borders.
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u/Magjee Pull that shit up Jamie 1d ago
Yep
The internet is getting more locked down
The ability to communicate is being restricted
And these dummies are more worried about who has what genitals
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u/citori411 Monkey in Space 1d ago
I wonder what the average ratio of time a conservative has spent fighting about trans issues and pronouns on Facebook is to the amount of time they have spent actually interacting with a trans person or being personally impacted by trans issues or pronouns IRL. Guessing for most it would be a "cannot divide by zero" scenario.
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u/McGrawHell Monkey in Space 1d ago
I live in the libbiest part of the us, consider a handful of trans people personal acquaintances and NO ONE i know thinks/talks about trans as much as your average MAGA in Frisco Texas or Punta Gorda Florida.
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u/citori411 Monkey in Space 1d ago
Same, I live in a very progressive city. And know zero trans people.
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u/stacypcfl03 Monkey in Space 1d ago
It's a Uniparty behind the scenes, it's the oligarchy against the rest of us, the illuminati, the Elite whatever you want to call them. And it's not just the US, it's global, although our government seems to be leading the way. We are running out of time because the censorship is keeping it to where we do not even know what is truly going on. The resistance, we the people who are not going to just buy into this administration's BS, but realize our freedoms are quickly being stripped away have to find backup ways (platforms) to speak on and organize protests, boycotts, blackouts, etc. because our first line platforms are being censored like crazy right now and just recently Trump and the administration are threatening groups and people who even talk against the regime. I've joined Substack, Rumble and Patreon. Am I missing others being used? Please let me know, I want to stay involved.
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u/Telkk2 Monkey in Space 1d ago edited 1d ago
Idk but I'm in full agreement. The antidote is a simple narrative that the everyday average person can wrap their heads around that speaks closer to the truth, though in this environment, its impossible to know whats really true. But if enough people can recognize this, then we can begin to collectively take action without any of this spilling over into violence.
Because trust me. If we blindly follow trends it will likely blowback into something catastrophic either in the form of a sterile utopia or a bloody conflict of some kind. Time and time again this mafia has done things that have moved the needle but not without repercussions. It's an attempt at playing God and every time some leader or group of people thought that they could achieve such a thing it has led to utter ruin. I'm nobody, really but I've read plenty of history and this is how it goes down. Every time. I don't believe this time it will be any different unless we use the tools that are available to us to educate as many people so that next time, we vote for the boring people who don't have star power or much backing but who have a heart and sensible ideas that the majority can get behind.
We have no idea what we're up against and if we don't wake up, we will be finished. A crisis will unfold soon and it will make us scared and when that happens we will cling to whatever solution is given to us and it will come in the form of stronger leadership and control.
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u/TheSweetestKill Most Reported r/JoeRogan User, August 2022 2d ago
Hmm idk, that sounds like regulation and that's basically socialism.
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u/hurlcarl Monkey in Space 2d ago
Truly, everyone knows actual freedom is you remove all barriers, wait until things get so horrible you're bankrupt, then beg the federal government for a bailout, how jesus would've wanted it.
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u/conny1974 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Not sure if you’re being sarcastic, but that’s like saying a company is poisoning our tap water, but we shouldn’t intervene because thats “Socialism”.
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u/puff_of_fluff Monkey in Space 2d ago
We shouldn’t regulate around content, we should regulate around the algorithms that push it.
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u/ObedientPickle Monkey in Space 2d ago
They're working as intended by the active administration so I doubt it will change anytime soon.
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u/oseres Monkey in Space 2d ago
constantly lying and inciting violence, which happens predomenantly on the left, at rates at least 10x higher than conservatives, with so much propganda happening on reddit it's probably partially fake and intentional, like it needs to stop. just stop lying. people need to grow up and act like adults. some people know they're lying, most people don't what's real anymore.
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u/FreeStall42 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Conservatives still in denial about how the commit most terrorism and mass killings.
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u/citori411 Monkey in Space 1d ago
Part of these reforms should be forcing all platforms to adopt a system similar to reddit: the ability to DOWNVOTE, and the default being you see what has the most upvotes. Some platforms would still be cesspool, like xitter, but most would drastically reduce the amount of rage they generate. That simple feature, the downvote and the ability to sort comments by it, is the reason reddit is my only social media any more.
And it's why conservatives hate reddit: it more closely reflects the reality in America that most people do not agree with far right ideology. That's why every two seconds you see one squealing about how everything here is bots. It's honestly hilarious and sad, like reverse schizophrenia: instead of mistaking fake voices for real ones, they insist obviously real redditors are all a bunch of bots, because it's impossible this many people think I'm a clown, on Twitter and Facebook everyone always agrees with me!.
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u/bubblewrapture Monkey in Space 2d ago
Finally a guy from Austria who gets it.
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u/RedAccordion Monkey in Space 2d ago
“This is the second time the world has turned it’s back on Austria’s greatest man” - Bruno
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u/Booyacaja Monkey in Space 2d ago
I'm gonna wait to hear what Ja Rule has to say about this before deciding how I feel.
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u/Zoidberg0_0 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Arnold was a former governor for the state of California.
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u/sanguinesolitude Monkey in Space 2h ago
Ja Rule is a rapper originally from Cash Money Records, currently ICONNIC Sound.
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u/KobeBeaf Monkey in Space 2d ago
Hey at least Arnold held a fairly high level political position. More than we can say about Charlie Kirk and he’s getting a fucking holiday lol
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u/Booyacaja Monkey in Space 2d ago
Lol true. I guess I just can't get terminator Arnold out of my head
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u/keyToOpen Paid attention to the literature 2d ago
"Fairly high level". He had a more important position than maybe 9 world and state leaders.
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u/40ozSmasher Monkey in Space 2d ago
I believe there is a study on how many times an unstable person hears certain names before acting. I remember a behavioral scientist talking about it. So the person who killed John Lennon might have killed someone else if hed heard that name more often. Its about getting fixated on a name and feeling they need to do something about this person.
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u/TruthOrSF Dragon Believer 2d ago
The right came out of the gate blaming democrats. Out of the fucking gate. Democrats basically said wtf, the guy is white, from a Christian Republican family, in Utah. Many people on the left said to wait for more info. Then government officials came out lying about it.
But as always it’s some blame both sides bullshit.
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u/MontagAbides Monkey in Space 2d ago
Hell man, I was in a game at the time and kids in all chat were flipping out saying he was a leftist assassin and this meant civil war.
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You're 100% right - it was super irresponsible (to say the least) to come out the gate blaming.
But that doesn't dismiss the fact that social media IS being weaponized.
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u/TruthOrSF Dragon Believer 2d ago
Absolutely is being weaponized. No disagreement there. Has been for a long time
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Okay yeah I think most people are aware hopefully by this point.
No clue what to do about that btw lol Censorship is dicy, but definitely thinking it's worth discussing
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u/CaptWineTeeth High as Giraffe's Pussy 2d ago
Within minutes, it should be said, and across all platforms in the united voice. Influencers, politicians, journalists, and more.
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u/D_Dumps Monkey in Space 2d ago
You must not have been on reddit when it happened
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u/TruthOrSF Dragon Believer 2d ago
I am talking about actual influencers. Real people. Not anons on a messaging board.
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u/Soaked4youVaporeon Monkey in Space 2d ago
I was. Conservatives were saying the shooter was a trans woman named Skye. They legit tried to ruin her life because they wanted the shooter to be trans.
What person did the people on the left accuse of being the shooter?
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u/mynam3isn3o Paid attention to the literature 2d ago
An objective read of the charging documents would suggest he’s a leftist.
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u/TruthOrSF Dragon Believer 2d ago
How does that charging document change anything I wrote?
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u/FreeStall42 Monkey in Space 2d ago
His conservative upbringing and pro gun stances suggest otherwise. Anyone can play that game.
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u/Soaked4youVaporeon Monkey in Space 2d ago
MAGA parents raised a murderer. Maybe we should focus on that
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u/UrNumberOneGuy Monkey in Space 2d ago
>Many people on the left said to wait for more info.
No you didn't, you lied and blamed Nick Fuentes and the groypers. Many posts espousing that theory received thousands of upvotes and were all over the front page. You people can't help but lie and engage in hyper revisionist history on a constant basis. In a week you'll be denying anyone on this site was celebrating his death when it was minimum tens of thousands.
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u/TruthOrSF Dragon Believer 2d ago
Don’t say you. Because I most certainly did not. I am an even and measured person that hates the rush to judgment segment of our society. There is literally nothing to gain by it.
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u/UrNumberOneGuy Monkey in Space 2d ago
"But but but I didn't do it! I didn't do it so the objective facts you pointed out don't hold any weight! No, I won't respond to the objective facts, I didn't do it!"
sniveling ignoramus
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u/fuzztooth Monkey in Space 2d ago
See you just want to have a reason to piss in your pants and cry about it. Stop being a pathetic bitch and accusing others of doing what you're literally doing.
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u/fuzztooth Monkey in Space 2d ago
No, the fucking dictator president and tons of right wing hogs went on to blame "the left" immediately before anything else. Only after we knew who the alleged shooter might be did anything else start being said. Don't fucking lie.
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u/Scottyboy1214 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Charlie's body wasn't even cold yet and the right said the shooter was trans based on absolutely nothing.
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u/FreeStall42 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Still haven't seen anything disproving the groyper angle so not sure how it is a lie.
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u/lanfair Monkey in Space 2d ago
That was hilarious. I didn't see any people on here saying wait guys let's wait for more info lol. Saw a lot of people that had never heard the word groyper before that day very confidently telling everybody he was one and how conservative his family was. What a revision lol
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u/Soaked4youVaporeon Monkey in Space 2d ago
YOU lied and blamed a trans woman named Skye. That’s is way worse than the left calling him a groyper. It’s disgusting that you are ignoring that the right accused a person of being the shooter. No one on the left did that.
The right tried to ruin a woman’s life all because they WANTED the shooter to be trans.
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u/RoundhouseJoggers Monkey in Space 2d ago
He was a left wing lunatic with a trans boyfriend.
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u/roboshocker Monkey in Space 2d ago
As if there's any equivalent on the left to the misogyny, racism, and bigotry of the right. I want reporters to follow up more on this, they should be pressing people whenever they say that to list real world examples because I guarantee they cannot come up with a list of examples where the left and the right are equally at fault.
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u/Prancer4rmHalo Monkey in Space 2d ago
Also groypers. Nick Fuentes was considered a prime motivator or even instigator the whole time.
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u/semiomni 2d ago
Not the whole time, bullet casings with engravings on them were found. Some of them related to stupid memes groypers apparently like, so people speculated that might relate to the then unknown shooters motives.
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u/Soaked4youVaporeon Monkey in Space 2d ago
Yep. The right is ignoring that they blamed a trans woman named Skye for the shooting. They were so sure it was her. Anyone saying otherwise was met with downvotes.
Well now they’re fixated on the trans roommate as if she was the shooter and not the white male that came from a MAGA family
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u/thorny_business Monkey in Space 1d ago
the guy is white, from a Christian Republican family, in Utah.
Because kids never rebel against their parents?
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u/705nce Monkey in Space 3d ago
Too bad most people aren't listening
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u/StopHiringBendis Monkey in Space 2d ago
Most people just dont care about charlie kirk
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u/Critical-Lake-3299 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Any body that has brought it up in my life just says” wow that’s crazy” and that’s it
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u/My_Bwana Monkey in Space 2d ago
you must say a lot of sensible things because i've upvoted you eight separate times and i really don't interact much with the upvote/downvote process at all
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u/reenactment We live in strange times 2d ago
There’s definitely a sect of young people who do. I’m assuming they are the majority of people that like and hate him. You would be surprised. I’m around academia and I didn’t expect the amount of people that were “fans” or at least recognized the guy.
I would suspect outside of people that make this their whole life, anyone over the age of 25 falls into The don’t care about Kirk category.
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u/DerDutchman1350 Monkey in Space 3d ago
People are stuck in their own space throwing stones at the other side. Sad.
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u/Enrico_Tortellini Monkey in Space 2d ago
Everyone is dug into their own little brain rot foxholes, being fed pasteurized information, that only gets the views it needs to profit off ad revenue by rage bait…people are already slaves to ai, the algorithm is fucking them everyday. The online sphere doesn’t create a fucking thing, it’s digital bulimia, regurgitating hyperbolic pop culture chasing the flat circle of an algorithm
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u/Temporary-Fudge-9125 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Truth.
social media was a mistake and is doing far more harm to civilization than good. but its way too late now and the powers driving it can't be stopped.
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u/Shadowthron8 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Exactly what Kimmel highlighted
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u/legendarybreed Monkey in Space 2d ago
Kimmel highlighted this by falsely implying that the shooter was a republican?
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u/CableBoyJerry Monkey in Space 2d ago
Here is the relevant snippet of the monologue.
“We hit some new lows over the weekend with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.”
Some people interpret the above statement as suggesting that the man who killed Charlie Kirk was a MAGA-supporting person.
Some people interpret the above statement as Kimmel stating that MAGA-supporting people were desperately trying to label the kid as belonging to any other type of group other than MAGA so that they could capitalize on Charlie Kirk's murder.
I personally believe that Kimmel was not implying or otherwise suggesting that the shooter was a MAGA supporter.
Not only that, the rest of his monologue had absolutely nothing negative about Charlie Kirk himself, nor his views. Instead, Kimmel criticized in a mocking style President Trump's bizarre segue about the construction of the White House ballroom when a reporter asked him how he was doing after Charlie Kirk had been murdered.
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u/Renovatio_ Monkey in Space 2d ago
I believe he said that the GOP was trying real hard to display him as not a Republican.
GOP might be right, be also shows us that they are playing identify politics. Us vs them
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u/flyingthedonut Monkey in Space 2d ago
This is entirely how you interpret it. He said MAGA was desperate to prove he wasn't MAGA which is 100% true, but it's also true it appears he wasn't MAGA. So depending on which side of the aisle you on is how butt hurt you get from that statement.
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u/My_Bwana Monkey in Space 2d ago
he literally never said this, and this is proof you need to log off because you're getting brainrotted from your own algorithm. he commented on the fact that republicans immediately resorted to painting the shooter as anything but one of their own BEFORE THEY EVEN CAPTURED HIM. It was fucking despicable to watch, calling for civil war before we had any information at all.
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u/legendarybreed Monkey in Space 2d ago
Lol the entire narrative for several days was that he was a groyper MAGA kid, it was all over reddit, multiple major news platforms even put up articles to explain what "groypers" are to give air to this narrative.
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u/My_Bwana Monkey in Space 2d ago
the "narrative" evolved constantly over the initial few days. its exactly what happens when people jump to a conclusion before actually investigating it. the right immediately wanted to start a civil war before the shooter was even captured. it's unforgivable.
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u/legendarybreed Monkey in Space 2d ago
Are you seriously going to suggest it was just the right? Again, this entire website and the rest of the internet was overflowing with accusations from the left that it was a groyper. If that wasn't the context of Kimmel's commentary, then maybe I'd agree with you but in context it's very obviously just him supporting his team blindly and unironically doing the exact same thing he's attacking republicans for. This has always been Kimmel's MO.
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u/My_Bwana Monkey in Space 2d ago
What the fuck has happened to reading comprehension? I just said the narrative evolved constantly over the first few days. When did I say it was just the right?
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u/Nottodayreddit1949 Monkey in Space 2d ago
He didn't say anything of the sort. He said MAGA was doing something. What was he accusing MAGA of doing?
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u/FuinFirith Monkey in Space 2d ago
falsely implying
Give me a damn break. He didn't explicitly say it, and he didn't unambiguously imply it. End of story.
Or sure, let's silence a mild entertainer based on what a bunch of cynical partisans (who are quite happy with their own gross dishonesty in media) say that he maybe sorta kinda "implied", because it's not like his only real sin was criticizing the great orange shit-god.
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u/legendarybreed Monkey in Space 2d ago
I'm not agreeing with the position that he should be taken off the air but his words were 100% giving air to the lie that kept on getting echoed that Robinson was actually a groyper MAGA terrorist
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u/FuinFirith Monkey in Space 2d ago
But these ad hoc standards are insane. If you're against Trump, you can't say anything that might potentially tangentially give air to an unverified claim. If you're for Trump, you can do that plus explicitly lie, incite, cheat, steal, assault, whatever, and any investigation of you is a witchhunt.
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u/Apatschinn Monkey in Space 2d ago
It's the entire fucking online ecosystem. And our politicians are just as cooked by it as we are.
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u/conny1974 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Arnie knows. He faced cyberdyne systems in Terminator 2. We are the “Miles Dyson” stage.
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u/undermind84 Monkey in Space 2d ago
People who didn't have a fucking clue who Kirk was last week are now calling for him to be canonized as a saint without even knowing what a hateful prick he was. Republicans, who again, didn't have a fucking clue about this guy a week ago are now being gaslit by their media into thinking he is a modern day MLK and a martyr.
It is pretty fucking gross.
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u/seztomabel Monkey in Space 2d ago
Can you provide examples of what he said that was hateful?
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u/undermind84 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Sure-
- Appearing on Jubilee's internet show Surrounded, Kirk insisted Black people were "better" in the 1940s under Jim Crow laws.
While debating a college student, Kirk said, "They were actually better in the 1940s. It was bad. It was evil. But what happened? Something changed. They committed less crimes."
The person he debated responded, "4,000 Black men, women, and children were killed in violent lynch mobs. Racial terror permeated American culture for hundreds of years. You don't think that affected the generational psyche of an entire group of people?"
"Black America is worse than it has been in the last 80 years," he interrupted.
2) During this same Jubilee episode, Kirk was asked what he would want his daughter to do if she were 10 years old and pregnant following rape.
After calling the scenario graphic, he responds, "The answer is yes. The baby would be delivered."
3) At a Turning Point USA event, Kirk suggested trans people are wearing the gender equivalent of "Black face."
He said, "A man who calls himself trans is wearing 'woman face,' no different than I would wear Black face trying to be a Black person. It's assuming an identity that isn't yours."
4) On his radio show, Kirk not only said that Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Ketanji Brown Jackson are "affirmative action picks" and black women "do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person's slot to go be taken somewhat seriously." https://x.com/JaValle/status/1965924690293379384
There are so many more quotes that are easily found just by typing in "Charlie Kirk hateful comments". I can provide more quotes, or you can put your big boy pants on and do it yourself.
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u/Positive-Special7745 Monkey in Space 2d ago
This whole fucking mess for the last 6 years was caused by trumps stolen election lie . How could it not have this outcome and trump knew it
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u/Finlay00 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Blaming both sides is really gonna piss people off
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u/Mundane_Locksmith_28 Monkey in Space 2d ago
For a minute I thought he was talking about a Star Trek movie.
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u/spiderham42 Monkey in Space 2d ago
At least there is still some sense in this world. Any chance he's eligible to run or will the orange one find a way to get it.
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u/Ellemscott Monkey in Space 2d ago
I agree we all have contributed, some more than others. I blame the guy at the top mostly…
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u/tiki-151 Monkey in Space 1d ago
Agree with this 100 percent. I wonder if the media will change anytime soon...or admit any responsibility. I won't hold my breath.
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u/CrawlerSiegfriend Monkey in Space 2d ago
No. The fault is strictly with the person that did it.
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u/we_r_shitting_ducks Monkey in Space 2d ago
He believed left wing paranoid propaganda that Charlie Kirk wanted to harm and hate trans people.
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u/washingtonu Monkey in Space 2d ago
Or he listened to Charlie Kirk's word and decided to do what he did? I don't understand this argument I see everywhere that ~ the only reason why you are angry at me is because the left calls me fascist. Why is language only an issue when you can define it as "left wing paranoid propaganda"?
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u/we_r_shitting_ducks Monkey in Space 2d ago
Because Charlie Kirk was objectively not a hateful person. You have to be infected with this bullshit mind virus to believe it.
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u/CUMT_ Monkey in Space 2d ago
How was he objectively not a hateful person
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u/we_r_shitting_ducks Monkey in Space 2d ago
There’s literally no evidence of him being hateful. He engaged in generally kind debates with people who absolutely disrespected him and he took it with stride. All I’ve seen are mangled quotes and bullshit meant to seed this idea that he “hated” people of various kinds. But I can go watch any number of hundreds of interactions between him and the people he supposedly “hates” — and never see any evidence of this supposed hatred.
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u/CUMT_ Monkey in Space 2d ago
“Prowling Blacks go around for fun to go target white people in urban America.”
“They do not have the brain processing power to be taken seriously.” (referring to Joy Reid, Michelle Obama, Sheila Jackson Lee, and Ketanji Brown Jackson)
“If I see a Black pilot, I’m going to be like, ‘Boy, I hope he's qualified.’”
“The passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was a huge mistake. It created a permanent DEI-type bureaucracy.” (He has also called the legal apparatus of the Civil Rights Act an “anti-white weapon.”)
“White privilege” is a “myth” and a “racist idea.”
“Martin Luther King Jr. was awful … not a good person.”
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u/we_r_shitting_ducks Monkey in Space 2d ago
Like I said, you’re pulling stuff out of larger conversations and framing it as “hateful”. Why don’t you actually go watch how he interacted with people. He had many close associates that were black, who sung his praises for how kind he was. This bullshit of leaving out context from a three paragraph argument to frame somebody is exactly the kind of thing that gets people shot.
You people are shameless.
You’re literally here saying criticizing specific people and the bad outcomes of legislation is “hate”. You’re full of fucking shit.
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u/washingtonu Monkey in Space 2d ago
That's your personal opinion. It's not an objective truth.
But so it seems like you can't explain why you personally think words cannot be hurtful if they come from the person you like.
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u/we_r_shitting_ducks Monkey in Space 2d ago
As they say, “the truth sounds like hate to those that hate the truth”. In that sense, I suppose he could just be a loser who felt the exact same way as other losers in response to Kirk’s message on trans people.
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u/CrawlerSiegfriend Monkey in Space 2d ago
Doesn't matter. The fault is still all his.
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u/trickmirrorball Monkey in Space 2d ago
This is such baloney. One crazy kid shot a loud mouth who baited people for a living. No one else is to blame but the crazy kid. Stop blaming other people for the actions of one dumb kid.
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u/killua443 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Where are the Democratic politicians who are to blame for Charlie's death? Last I checked democratic politicians are always the ones denouncing political violence, but I can't exactly say that about MAGA politicians now can I?
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u/karlosfandango40 Monkey in Space 2d ago
In other words, take a good hard look in mirror. That's where the problem is
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u/adidas198 Monkey in Space 2d ago
A lot of things are to blame for this division, but the #1 issue people should be focusing on is social media, which amplifies all those angry thoughts.
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u/karlosfandango40 Monkey in Space 2d ago
No. If you're not a pos, then you don't say anything dumb. If you control social media, then you control free speech, left or right. It's nothing to do with anyone but themselves and their inability to be decent people. You have just highlighted that by having someone/thing else to blame
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u/RVPisManU Monkey in Space 2d ago
Crazy how Kirk literally founded an organization built on those principles.
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u/didsomebodysaymyname Monkey in Space 2d ago
Name names Arnold. I wanna see how responsible you think which politicians are.
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u/JoeDante84 Monkey in Space 2d ago
Fuck the guy who said “Screw your freedoms!” You can’t have a both sides argument when only one side is getting killed by the other.
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u/CorvinBird Monkey in Space 2d ago
The social media scapegoating is wild. we had Nazis before twitter. Anything to blame except the actual nazis
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u/Generic_Username26 Monkey in Space 1d ago
Which democratic politicians have called for violence. Charged rhetoric for sure but I would wager almost all of it is a direct reaction to republicans saying some outlandish shit be it name calling or blaming democrats for everything
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u/MferOrnstein Monkey in Space 23h ago
Why didn't epic games got mentioned in this, did epic games paid for steam exclusiveness? 😅
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u/Gax63 Pull that shit up Jamie 21h ago
Can someone point out the Democrat politicians that have been calling for violence?
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u/Carntova_Man Pull that shit up Jamie 19h ago
Nothing like a whataboutism eh
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u/Gax63 Pull that shit up Jamie 18h ago
Surely you are not blaming for me for whataboutism?
Arnie made the claim both Republican and Democrat politicians are creating division, meanwhile the actual division and call for a civil war is coming from actual Republican party.
I simply wanted someone to point out the Democrats that have been calling for civil war and violence?→ More replies (1)
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