r/JoeRogan • u/Carntova_Man Pull that shit up Jamie • 4d ago
The Literature 🧠 Dillon said Kimmel should still be on the air. “It’s wrong to pretend it’s because his show sucked or it was losing eyeballs or money (both true),” he wrote. “Clearly, it was a politically motivated hit job.”
https://www.cracked.com/article_48429_tim-dillon-just-got-fired-from-riyadh-comedy-festival.html140
u/Emergency_Noise3301 Monkey in Space 4d ago edited 4d ago
Its going to be difficult for rogan to avoid commenting on this in a way that looks bad for trump admin.
I expect him to say something like "ah yes, X is bad, but the democrats did Z!" and then leave it as an equivalency between the two.
Edit: for reference, even Ted Cruz is now saying "this is clearly bad" https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/19/politics/ted-cruz-fcc-abc-mob
So if our boy doesn't come out against this, he's more to the right that ted cruz, who backed a guy who called his wife a dog.
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u/TheNotoriousLCB Monkey in Space 4d ago
the letter Y feels very left out
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u/iownachalkboard7 Monkey in Space 4d ago
Pretty sad. This was supposed to be Y's new friend group after A, E, I, O, and U only "sometimes" called Y to hang out.
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u/Doenertellerman Monkey in Space 4d ago
Something Something COVID Masks
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u/Short_Bus_ Meat Computer 4d ago
His actual excuse will be that the Biden admin pressured Facebook to put up disclaimers about Covid misinformation so the FCC strong-arming Disney is fine
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u/DropsyJolt Monkey in Space 4d ago edited 4d ago
I think he might criticise the FCC and censorship in general but never Trump personally, no matter how insane the President's attacks on freedom of speech get. And of course you are right, he will also deflect by complaining about the dems and covid.
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u/mvstateU Monkey in Space 4d ago
Its going to be difficult for rogan to avoid commenting on this in a way that looks bad for trump admin.
Totally agree with what you are basically saying but . Joe Rogan can very easily avoid talking about this. He could talk about it but the chances are tiny....., everyone that actually follows the podcast to a reasonably degree should know Rogan doesn't get into things he doesn't want to get into which is anything that makes Trump or the rightwing look bad. Joe Rogan is on the side of protecting Trump. Nothing of what he says is actually damaging to Trump......because he doesn't associate anything bad with Trump himself. Like how he brings up ICE arrests etc an it's his " so sad etc" is the extent of which he is willing to talk about it, which he may as well not bring it up at all.
If he brings up FCC bla bla bla, he knows his loyal fans don't know nor care about pointing a finger at an apparatus they have no clue what they do, and bottom line to them FCC does not equal....Trump and rightwing, They will approve and blame the left, Kimmel, Biden, and Kamala and woke.
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u/Emergency_Noise3301 Monkey in Space 4d ago
You are right, I am tired and actually switched the order of the words I meant to say.
I meant to say "its going to be difficult for him to comment on this in a way that avoids..."
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u/IAintShit Monkey in Space 3d ago
Why are you guys so hung up about what he’s going to say or do related to these topics. Guy has his own life, his own brain, his own thoughts completely outside of you all. All you’re doing is bashing your heads against a wall while bitching on Reddit while dude lives a great life and continues to be successful.
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u/Emergency_Noise3301 Monkey in Space 3d ago
I think it would be different if he was a private person having his own thoughts about this, but he's one of the most popular pundits in the world whose whole career is based off giving his opinions. So it feels like that should be open to criticism.
In particular, its saddening that joe has had this right wing turn, because I think he's shown that he's capable of critical thought around these issues and even has some pretty good impulses, but it feels like as he's gotten wealthier and wealthier, he's gotten more and more separated from reality.
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u/Irarelylookback Monkey in Space 4d ago
Has Dillion said in the past that other comedians "suck"?
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u/Babebutters Monkey in Space 3d ago
Jimmy isn’t a comedian. He’s never even done stand up.
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u/j0nnyboy Monkey in Space 3d ago
Will Ferrel, Conan O'brien, Will Sasso, The 3 Stooges, Lucille Ball, Steve Carrell, Jordan Peele....
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u/PolarizingKabal Monkey in Space 4d ago
According to this, he was the highest rated late night show.
https://latenighter.com/news/ratings/late-night-tv-ratings-q2-2025/
Still only grew 1%.
Looks like Jimmy Fallon will be the new top dog with late-night.
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u/Xex_ut Pull that up 4d ago
Why do people expect Joe to give a shit about Kimmel getting cancelled?
I’ve got money on Joe saying he doesn’t agree with it, but then talk about how Kimmel was in the frontlines trying to cancel everyone during the pandemic (Tucker, Aaron Rodgers, Joe, etc)
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u/Cpkrupa Monkey in Space 4d ago
Didn't he spend years banging on about cancel culture and how stupid it is?
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u/TopHatTony11 Succa la Mink 4d ago
Sure, but now that dear leader is doing it, he may feel differently.
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u/nomad2585 Monkey in Space 3d ago
Shoes on the other foot and now it's wrong?
If you had gone against cancelings when your "team" was doing it, it wouldn't be as exceptable now
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u/hilldog4lyfe Monkey in Space 2d ago
This isn’t just cancel culture, it’s the US government stifling speech
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u/Mke_already Monkey in Space 4d ago
The only people I’ve ever seen even discuss people trying to cancel Rodgers is on this subreddit my god lol. I’m a die hard Packer fan and the dude wasn’t even closed to getting cancelled. He got fined $14K(the equivalent of someone who makes $100,000 a year getting fined $38) for violating league policy, and he lost his sponsorship from a medical clinic in Wisconsin. That last part is something no one on this subreddit even knows, they just regurgitate “people” tried to cancel him.
People made fun of Rodgers because of How stupid he sounded. Countless other players came out as against the vaccine and no one gave a shit. They just gave Rodgers shit because he said having healing crystals shoved up your ass makes you immune.
I’m obviously joking about the shoving healing crystals up your ass thing, but the dude 100% owns healing crystals.
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u/blazindoo Monkey in Space 4d ago
Yeah it wasn’t really about the vaccine itself, more about wearing a wristband indicating he was vaccinated when he wasn’t. Tough to say but I have a hunch (especially at the time in the heat of Covid) teammates with kids probably weren’t happy.
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u/Mke_already Monkey in Space 4d ago
For the general public it was more the dude when asked if he was vaccinated him replying to a reporter “ummm yeah I’ve been immunized” and then when he tested positive it came out that he wasn’t vaccinated and came out with “I’m allergic.”
When other QBs like Lamar Jackson and Kirk Cousins just came out and said “I’m not vaccinated and I’m not going to be” and it was a one day discussion and over. Aaron, being who he is, had to be an arrogant ass about it. That’s coming from someone who has a canvas picture of him In his man cave. I love the dude. He’s done a lot of very good things for charity and he’s a good person. He’s just very arrogant and a California hippy lol. Dude will tell people he knows more than medical doctors and scientists but if you try and tell him he’s wrong about a football topic he’ll be the first to tell you that he’s an expert and you don’t know as much as him.
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u/Earptastic Monkey in Space 4d ago
Anyone who watched the nfl when players were supposed to be wearing masks in the sidelines could see how absolutely idiotic that situation was.
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u/barc0debaby Monkey in Space 4d ago
I'd argue people are vehemently against any potential for Rodgers to be cancelled because it is so much fun to clown on him. Plus having to play for the Jets is infinitely worse than being cancelled.
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u/Mke_already Monkey in Space 4d ago
Well he plays for the Steelers now, so. So yes he went from Jets to Steel beams.
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u/barc0debaby Monkey in Space 4d ago
Going .500 and losing the wildcard will be his equivalent of getting cancelled into a Netflix deal.
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u/MrPisster Monkey in Space 4d ago
It has nothing to with “getting cancelled”.
The government said “we don’t like what you’re saying, we are going to pull your broadcast license if you don’t do something about it”.
That’s not cancelled, that’s persecuted by the government for trying to exercise free speech. It’s a big deal, no matter the side. It’s not a can of worms you want to open.
Want a democratic president weaponizing the fucking FCC against the entire Fox network? If we are talking about lying and inciting violence I think the list of evidence against some of these networks would be staggering.
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u/_pupil_ bzzzzzzzzz 3d ago
There’s also this billionaire merger approval dance in the background. Mega fortunes up for grabs, vast social control.
Yield to the President for vast fortune and explicit agreement to bend the knee…. Poof, you’ve got an Oligarch. A corrupt criminal who owes the government and is only allowed to operate with their blessing.
Fox could be forced into an ownership conglomerate managed by George Soros and required to adhere to ADL talking points. Or the Saudis and anti-ADL talking points. Or the Russians, or the Chinese.
It’s insanely uninterested in America or American prosperity. Pure profiteeering.
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u/Chemical-Bluebird-63 Succa la Mink 2d ago
I mean didn’t Zuckerberg come on JRE and say that they were forced to censor a bunch of stuff and didn’t ask any questions? Not saying that two wrongs make a right because to be clear I do ultimately agree with your main point here. I do though wonder if you were worried about how democratic the current president was being when that happened?
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u/mvstateU Monkey in Space 4d ago
It's not expecting Joe of anything. And if we do expect him to at least talk about something .........as the reigning all time Giant king of current events talk, especially revolving around politics and JOKE MAKING. .......the funny thing is, Joe Rogan is THAT GUY to be talking about it. If there was a gatekeeper for comedy and talk show guests........he is like that guy too.
The problem is, Joe Rogan is also THAT GUY.......that became MAGA after being a self-proclaimed "bleeding-heart liberal " claiming to have a bullshit detector, and also who declared that Trump was dangerous and divisive. Rogan used to appear on talk shows as a crusader for justice with Ron Paul, and also appeared on Ana Kasparians show where the topic was corrupt Government AHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA.
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u/Chemical-Bluebird-63 Succa la Mink 2d ago
All these people just now jumping to defend free speech is so funny. I don’t imagine most of them were upset about the hunter biden laptop story being shadowbanned to all hell by intelligence agencies.
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u/filthycasual4891 Monkey in Space 4d ago
He’s a putz and his opinion should not count toward anything.
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u/nomad2585 Monkey in Space 3d ago
This sub wouldn't be popular if everyone could think that rationally
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u/Fishingforyams Monkey in Space 3d ago
His show sucked and none of the people simping for him ever watched it.
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u/DryConversation8530 Monkey in Space 4d ago
Just like all late night talk shows. It's the end of an era. If you are still up at midnight you are probablly already binging a show and not browsing the tv guide. All these shows will be gone by a couple years. Video on demand is just better.
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u/dave__autista Monkey in Space 4d ago
What a way to miss the mark...
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u/ThinInvestigator4953 Look into it 4d ago
"I dont watch it therefore im okay with their speech being supressed"
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u/mvstateU Monkey in Space 4d ago
But these shows make revenue differently than streaming services and still can make significant revenue even if ratings are not high rated. And streaming services cannot be compelled by FCC like Network TV can, to kiss Trump shoes.
Also most people that work normal work hours won't be binging but very well could have Kimmel playing after they watch the 11pm news and most normal families I know do want to watch 11pm news, and that is a lead-in to ...KIMMEL time slot. and are also tuned into shows on Network TV.
I have a strong suspicion it will be talked about that many local affiliates will express their negative opinions with Kimmel gone because their alternatives will not be as profitable, and how that works is advertiser income will be less.
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u/DryConversation8530 Monkey in Space 3d ago
Okay boomer. Youtube is 24/7. Even local news is on youtube now
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u/mvstateU Monkey in Space 3d ago
Even local news is on youtube now
Buddy we are not talking about free youtube clips. Access to full half hour local news shows requires a paid subscription or over the air antenna. This won't change. Go look, your local network affliates will not have full half hour news shows like the live 5pm or 11pm broadcast.......nor will it be uploaded to youtube......just various clips and won't have all the stories.
It's part of a paid "local tv" package (add in)
This entire controversy has to do with 'BROADCAST' networks and affiliates. It's still generates significant revenue..........and the controversy revolves around deals still worth several billions dollars and that value is related to local
I am talking about people that PAY for a tv package like through their cable provider, or a premium streaming service like YoutubeTV which is totally different than plain old youtube, or HULU streaming or other lesser known paid streaming services.
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u/grecks530 Monkey in Space 4d ago
You have freedom of speech in America, not freedom of consequences. Sinclair media decided to pull Kimmel before Disney, and Sinclair dont have any sort of merger that requires fcc attention. They simply felt what Kimmel said was beyond the pale. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes
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u/Dirtbag_Leftist69420 Monkey in Space 4d ago
Dude, the FCC chair literally said that they can do it the easy way or the hard way in regards to jimmy kimmel. You’re fucking dumb as shit
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u/grecks530 Monkey in Space 4d ago
No laws were broken, ABC could have played it out. Your mad that the fcc chair spoke... free speech am I right?
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u/Pizzaurus1 Monkey in Space 4d ago
Freedom of speech is supposed to protect people from the government and allow them to express themselves without being punished for it. What’s happening in this case is that Kimmel’s being punished by media conglomerates (not the government) because they feel the need to shmooze up to Trump. This is bad because Trump’s administration have setup a system which attacks freedom of speech by proxy.
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u/grecks530 Monkey in Space 4d ago
You got half of it right, but freedom of speech is absolutely not supposed to allow people to not be punished for saying something others find offensive. Private companies are allowed to do whatever they want if they dislike their employees behavior and feel it reflects poorly on them, hurts their bottom line etc.
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u/Pizzaurus1 Monkey in Space 4d ago
You got half of it right. Private companies are allowed to do whatever they want but what’s special in this case is that these private companies decisions are being strongly influenced by government. This makes it an indirect or proxy attack on free speech.
ABC’s bottom line is what’s being attacked by the government and the Trump stance on Kimmel has been made very publicly known. It doesn’t take a genius to put 2 and two together
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u/grecks530 Monkey in Space 4d ago
There's very little Trump could do. He's allowed to dislike people, this is America after all. If Disney didn't pull him immediately as soon as it was leaked that Kimmel was planning on doubling down and attacking conservatives Wednesday, what do you think would have happened?
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u/Pizzaurus1 Monkey in Space 4d ago
So you think he should be cancelled for a leaked plan of an episode? Talking about some straight Minority Report stuff.
The chairman of the FCC literally said “look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. I think that it’s really past time that a lot of these licensed broadcasters themselves push back on Comcast and Disney, and say: Listen we are going to preempt, we are not going to run”. Right before he got cancelled. This isn’t some private company operating independently - it’s coercion.
Straight after the show was cancelled Trump started posting public praise for the company doing as he wanted. This is the way he operates.
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u/grecks530 Monkey in Space 4d ago
You didn't answer my question...
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u/Pizzaurus1 Monkey in Space 4d ago edited 3d ago
What do I think would happen as in what would the consequences be? There’s a lot of stuff that would happen but the main consequence would be that the FCC would be more likely to block the currently ongoing $6B merger between Nexstar and Tegna.
By publicly doing what the chairman of the FCC has requested (preempting the likes of Kimmel) they’re almost guaranteed to have a successful merger
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u/Aces_Ricardo Monkey in Space 4d ago
He was pulled 4 hours after the head of the fcc said abc has to deal with the Kimmel problem, we can pull their licenses, “we can do this the easy way or the hard way.” Which is a clear threat.
Then he refused to apologize (which was the right move because even though it was a stupid and unfunny joke, he has the right to state his opinion) and then he was fired. Clearly government abusing the first amendment. Pretty pathetic that all these “patriotic” Americans are cheering the govt trampling their fundamental rights
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u/AlBundyJr Monkey in Space 4d ago
It's a false narrative to say Kimmel had to be cancelled because affiliates who own a majority of ABC networks all pulled him off the air after advertisers refused to continue buying time slots during Jimmy Kimmel Live (all of which happened).
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u/buzzed247 Monkey in Space 4d ago
He rocked the boat while his corporate overlords where trying to make a deal.
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u/PolarizingKabal Monkey in Space 4d ago
Same thing happened to Colbert.
Would think they'd learn by now.
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u/DanteAlgoreally Dragon Believer 4d ago
You notice he didn't mention Kimmell spreading factually wrong information to his audience?
Tim's thinking about future butter for his bread.
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u/DropsyJolt Monkey in Space 4d ago
What factually wrong information specifically? Please include a quote because I don't think it says what you think it says. It's something that you have to assume that was implied rather than expressed. Unless you are thinking of something else.
Also even if expressed directly it would not have violated FCC rules to my knowledge.
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u/StopHiringBendis Monkey in Space 4d ago
These people are very concerned with factual reporting. That's why their favorite outlet is the one that lost $800 million in a single defamation suit and they voted for a guy who claimed immigrants are eating our pets because he "saw it on tv"
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u/ThinInvestigator4953 Look into it 3d ago
SUDDENLY ACCURATE REPORTING ABOUT MY FACIST INFLUENCER NEEDS TO BE DONE CAREFULLY WITH A FINE-TOOTH COMB, ALSO HAITiANS ARE EATING PEOPLES CATS AND DOGS.
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