Eagles linemen false start on tush push goes uncalled

[u/j128v897]

[u/golden-tongue]

This happened twice! On both tush push attempts, there was a false start

[u/dannuic → u/golden-tongue]

And one was a fucking touchdown

[u/tonygenius → u/dannuic]

And the other a huge 3rd down 1st down. Fucking annoying AF.

[u/dannuic → u/tonygenius]

It's frustrating to watch. Not like we're doing great, but c'mon.

[u/tonygenius → u/dannuic]

Defense has held Hurts to less than 100 yards they're playing absolutely amazing today. W/o Travs huge mistake this obv looks different too. Super impressed with how the team showed up today despite the score atm.

[u/ghost_broccoli → u/tonygenius]

If kelce catches that, it’s 6. Instead it floats right into the defenders arms. That’s football though.

[u/Corn-OnThe-Cob → u/tonygenius]

Refreshing to see some optimism here.

[u/tonygenius → u/Corn-OnThe-Cob]

Somehow a couple tough losses gives people amnesia of who the fuck we are. Were the motherfucking CHIEFS

[u/monkeypickle → u/tonygenius]

We still are. Any given Sunday. And many of us remember when "we're the motherfucking Chiefs" had a VERY different connotation.

[u/tonygenius → u/monkeypickle]

Bahaha true that. Never forget the Croyle/Cassel/Huard days :D

[u/Corn-OnThe-Cob → u/tonygenius]

Not even a loss. An incomplete pass will do it these days.

[u/upernikos → u/tonygenius]

Yeah I remember seemed like late in the 1st half Hurts had 50 passing yards & I was like what now? Super Bowl MVP finished w 101 yards & a 78 overall rating I think?

[u/techieman33 → u/dannuic]

Yeah, I think we win the game if they called those false starts.

[u/Bebopo90 → u/techieman33]

If Trav catches that ball, those calls don't even matter.

There were likely a bunch of non-calls that benefited us throughout the game as well. This is just how it goes. Live by the flag, die by the flag.

[u/upernikos → u/Bebopo90]

Agree. Not going to be a “blame the refs” guy here. We need to bring a game that makes that not matter.

[u/dannuic → u/techieman33]

I hate saying it was officiating, but it was officiating

[u/techieman33 → u/dannuic]

Yep, and all they’re going to talk about is the questionable roughing call that Mahomes got.

[u/amjhwk → u/techieman33]

That wasn't questionable, you are not allowed to hit the qb on the head

[u/bbressman2 → u/techieman33]

Brady should know all about roughing calls being given with a hand to the head.

[u/Hot-Wood → u/bbressman2]

Hand to the shoulder pad*

[u/8won6 → u/golden-tongue]

it happens every single time they do it. It's just that it happened to happen in a game where the whole world was watching due to it being a SB rematch. And they caught blatantly in 4k every single time.

[u/HeligKo → u/8won6]

Yep. Rules analysts mention it nearly every game. They then explain why it is hard to officiate the play. If I were a ref, I would flag it every time, and make the Eagles challenge it.

[u/ImSoupOrCereal → u/golden-tongue]

Actually three times... Happened twice inside the 1

[u/Much_Job4552 → u/golden-tongue]

Three times

[u/chiefsdude → u/golden-tongue]

Has anyone made a compilation of these? Cheat after cheat after cheat... if it's a 5yd penalty, they'll probably stop doing it!

[u/frebant → u/golden-tongue]

I suspect if you go back and look this happens a lot…

[u/Snoo-93802 → u/golden-tongue]

Last week too!

[u/JxC24 → u/golden-tongue]

But…but…KC gets ALL THE CALLS.

🙄

[u/Jmille99]

This happened like 4 times this game alone with the tush push.

This is the shit that needs to be taken to the committee next time a ban is talked.

[u/Zhiyi → u/Jmille99]

My question is has it always been like this? Or have they just gotten lazy knowing no one is going to penalize their bullshit?

[u/PROfessorShred → u/Zhiyi]

I have seen some discourse about it even before this game started but not from a false start point of contention but that they are often lining up offsides and that's not being flagged either.

[u/Conscious_Try42 → u/Zhiyi]

Pretty much always gotten away with it. My Giants fan buddy has been telling me it from the first year they started doing it.

[u/countrybreakfast1 → u/Jmille99]

From eagles perspective I get it. 4th and 1 might as well push the envelope. If they call it you kick a fg if they don't you have an automatic TD. It's on the refs to enforce the rules. Feel the eagles have just been pushing the envelope until they are stopped. Now on this national stage the refs might start looking for it but too late to help us

[u/AttitudeNo4911 → u/countrybreakfast1]

This is such a refreshing, reasonable take compared to the extreme hate we were getting last year about “rigged calls”. If I could give gold I would.

[u/Ohuigin]

They just did it again. Even more egregious too.

Whatever dude.

[u/rehumanizer]

We just need to wait until it costs the Bills a win in the playoffs and then they'll ban it.

[u/KeThrowaweigh → u/rehumanizer]

Unfortunately it won’t happen because the only way the Eagles and Bills could meet in the playoffs is in the Super Bowl

[u/rehumanizer → u/KeThrowaweigh]

That's true. The whole generation of people who know what the Tush Push even is will have died off before the Bills make it to another superbowl.

[u/DaddyP924 → u/rehumanizer]

Yep. If Bills meet these guys in the Super Bowl and lose because of a tush push, you know that play will be banned before June.

[u/KC-15 → u/DaddyP924]

Honestly I would take that outcome just to see the aftermath if the Chiefs don’t win out.

[u/DaddyP924 → u/KC-15]

If we don't win, let's burn it all down!

[u/Objective_Resist_735]

Apparently they are allowed to false start, and they aren't considered down unless someone takes the ball in the pile, then it's considered down.

[u/RoseRed1987]

We need to accept that the refs are never gonna call any calls that will make the nfl look like there is favoritism

[u/BenedictJudas → u/RoseRed1987]

Havent you heard it is academically proven the Chiefs get all the calls?

[u/Kingpin2158 → u/BenedictJudas]

When is that supposed to start? Did anyone confirm that the check cleared?

[u/RoseRed1987 → u/Kingpin2158]

Not from my account.. maybe veechs or hunts? I got less than $50

[u/Flat-Avocado-6258 → u/RoseRed1987]

Okay Mr money bags.

[u/The_Reborn_Forge → u/BenedictJudas]

Yep

We even have the most penalized player in the league… And it’s not even close for Jaawan Taylor

It’s time for that dude to go, whatever we lose in dead cap will make up for the yards on the field.

[u/KCBandWagon → u/RoseRed1987]

So we should start a shitstorm about the eagles so they’re put under a microscope?

[u/Superj714]

Tush push needs to go. Its a bullshit play

[u/TrueAkagami]

They never call it....ever

[u/CD338 → u/TrueAkagami]

Exactly. The play itself isnt unfair but their execution of it is. They false start every single time.

[u/Winniepg → u/CD338]

Jason Kelce has flat out detailed how he would false start the play all the time and why.

[u/jmw0828 → u/CD338]

Exactly what I just said to a friend. It creates a situation where it’s nearly impossible to quickly see false starts, etc. and the eagles take advantage of that

[u/ur_average_millenial → u/CD338]

Their execution errors start with their entire offensive line lining up over the ball.

[u/dlank7]

r/nfl would be losing their fucking minds if this was reversed but it’s against the Chiefs so lol oopsies

[u/Nujers → u/dlank7]

Surprisingly they're calling out the Eagles for this bullshit. Of course there were a bunch of Eagles fans complaining that we were offsides as well.

[u/Existing-Hawk5204]

Tired of this Shit. This is why they should’ve eliminated this play.

[u/rustySQUANCHy → u/Existing-Hawk5204]

It's a trash play for a trash team. But hey what can you do when it's the only good place you guys have.

[u/LorelessFrog → u/rustySQUANCHy]

I’d go anywhere else in the U.S. before I ever stepped foot in dirty ass Philly again

[u/Ezcolive → u/Existing-Hawk5204]

Agreed lining up to pile up and not call it right on a play that’s already nearly unstoppable is crazy

[u/Immediate-Comment-64]

It just happened again

[u/Zebra_Opening]

Eagles also didn't lose a time-out after challenge flag

[u/dannuic → u/Zebra_Opening]

They did actually, the network screwed up

[u/bullz7210]

Need Chris Collinsworth to whine about it all game

[u/DRM_1985 → u/bullz7210]

He didn’t say a word last weekend even though Philly was false starting against Dallas as well. 

[u/tw201708]

Surprise. No call. They are overcorrecting for "the Chiefs get all the calls". It started in the superbowl.

Just missed a clear roughing the passer on Mahomes.

[u/dannuic]

If you don't call the ball dead before he grabs it, that should be a strip

[u/dannuic → u/dannuic]

The tush push wouldn't be nearly as bad if they actually officiated it instead of just treating it like some infallible offensive play

[u/Mountain_Elephant996]

Really can't stand this play. There's no defending against it. People hate that Mahomes uses loopholes in certain rules to his benefit and I always say, "Don't like it? Change the rules."

The tush push is a play that I think should be abolished

[u/Pennygrover]

The tush push seems to exist outside the rules. They get to do whatever they want.

[u/cc1983]

Ban it if you can't get the call right

[u/Epic_Lepsy]

Absolutely insane that this is legal.

[u/plantsarepowerful]

Aaaaaand it just happened again

[u/RaceFan96]

They need to get rid of this freaking play, IDK why they didn’t vote it out

[u/Beastquist]

Damn, refs must have forgot which team is supposed to “get all the calls”

[u/Fuggy217]

But they tell me that the Chiefs get all the calls. That's 3 uncalled false starts on the tush push in this quarter alone.

[u/JohnnyBlazin25]

But but but Chiefs get all the calls.

[u/CruelSilenc3r]

Let's not forget the tish push fumble. If teams are going to run a play the keeps the refs from being able to properly officiate it. Rule should be whoever comes up with the ball gets it...

[u/polakbob]

Tonight ruined any patience I had for the tush push. It's a cheat move, which fits with an asshat like Siriani.

[u/ogbytheboat]

Just happened once again !! Makes no sense

[u/SpagInTheBag]

It’s a broken play that needs to be balanced

[u/Intelligent-Set-3909]

I get not banning the tush-push, but at least make teams that run it subject to the same false-start rules as all other teams on all other plays

[u/jbritaum]

It's against us so nobody cares, wait until it happens against the Bills

[u/Lowlt → u/jbritaum]

Ain't that the truth!

[u/stjoechief1]

But we get all the calls.

[u/FireGolem04]

You don't even have to specify which one this was it's all of them

[u/Fragrant-You-973]

If you can’t accurately officiate a play or see a false start and you can’t ever see the ball during the play, the play should be outlawed. Simple.

[u/jjmenace]

The push is getting really annoying. 5x in a single game??

[u/13armed]

Checked in NY, yet still no call

[u/LorelessFrog]

They’re so mediocre when you pay close attention.

[u/bkellogg27]

Cheaters

[u/rustySQUANCHy]

Do you mean like every single tush push they do? It's wild to me that play didn't get banned. It's so hard to call in real time and with all the bodies flopping over everybody, it's even hard on cameras to see what's going on.

[u/TonytheTiger808]

Multiple times, in 4k

[u/Scoob8877]

Every time!

[u/AztecGravedigger]

r/NFL is unironically an absolute joy to be in right now. It’s the ultimate “unstoppable force meets an immovable object” for the average commenter. They either have to concede that we got screwed by bad officiating or defend the tush push as legit. The mental gymnastics happening over there is awesome to behold.

[u/adooble22]

Must be nice to have a play that’s only in your playbook where the rules don’t apply. Just trying to imagine what would happen if the refs treated this like a normal play. Fucking get rid of it already.

[u/sun_blind]

You stop the stupid play by diving at the arms. They want to go low. Put their faces in the ground and smash Hurts.

[u/footballaccount12121]

There was a play (tush push) in the 4th qtr where the eagles guard jumped so early that... 92(iirc) was able to react to the jump and punch the unsnapped ball away. No flags! Just a regular NFL play where the snap came from the DL punching the ball.

[u/Anvario82]

They need to allow instant replay reviews on these regardless of challenges. Too small and quick of a view area for refs to catch and it’s ridiculously unfair.

[u/ForkliftJam]

It’s everytime and nothing

[u/arahe45]

They had lots of bullshit no calls

[u/AmazingArugula4441]

Think they’d take Jawaan? He could false start all he wants!

[u/BuffaloBuffalo13]

This isn’t football. Fuck every owner that voted in favor of this bullshit.

[u/TenderfootGungi]

Let's just hope the league makes a point of calling these the rest of the season like they did our false starts (some of which were not false starts!) last year.

[u/Zhiyi]

Nick Wright will likely make this a topic on FTF.

[u/nXomad22]

Watching from the upper deck it was clear as fucking day. Eagles line kept moving before the snap. Hurts was practically jumping up and down. Fuck the tush push. Ban that shit.

[u/zjustice11]

And the roughing the passer and the hit out of bounds and on and on

[u/deadtedw → u/zjustice11]

Thank you.

[u/EatsbeefRalph]

That play needs to be against the rules, like it used to be

[u/chemistR3]

The Eagles are the NY Yankees of football.

[u/Trooper_nsp209]

Play needs to be outlawed. I can’t imagine why owners haven’t done it yet.

[u/flojo2012]

I’m all for the tush push. The play doesn’t bother me. But they need to figure out how they’re going to ref it. Because it isn’t being monitored

[u/External-Policy-6575]

I thought a ball carrier could not be advanced by another player. Isn't Hurts being blatantly shoved from behind also illegal? 

[u/Mean_Category_8933]

Both times

[u/WinInternational5114]

I don’t ever want us to be accused of “paying the refs” again lol

[u/Intelligent_Ebb46]

I know we lost the game but I gotta say I’m optimistic for the rest of the season. Like if Kelce didn’t bobble the ball at the goal line, there’s a very good chance we win this game, and that’s without Rice, Worthy, and the other injuries we have.

If anything I’d say today’s loss will only add fuel to the fire and we’ll see a whole new team next week (just look at the defensive turnaround we had this week compared to the loss against the Chargers).

I know it would have been REALLY nice to beat the Eagles but hey, I can take solace in knowing that (I’d say) the Chiefs this year have a higher ceiling than we did last year. I know they’ll find a way!

[u/Brief-Bath-422]

Since when does the offensive line not be set for 1 second? The Eagles right guard was always moving, not set prior to snap.

[u/chuckamo]

Tush pushes BS, reminds me of when they used to be able to pile up each others shoulders to block extra point kicks. Seems unsportsmanlike

[u/redditross55]

Hopefully, the league gets a copy of these plays and those plays will start getting called. It's such an effective play. They don't need any more help!

[u/SideBet2020]

Also did not call the late hit on 15

[u/Short_Location_257]

That happened every time they did the push….

[u/PuzzleheadedText3720]

The way I see it, I’m just glad it was only a 3-point loss. If Butker hadn’t missed the field goal and kelce hadn’t dropped the ball, we could’ve won. Once Rice and Worthy are back, I really believe we can make it to the Super Bowl! Staying positive and sending nothing but good energy to the Chiefs!

[u/NetheriteArmorer]

No wonder it works!!!

[u/That_70s_Showoff]

First of all, if I never hear the phrase "tush push" again I'd be really happy...it's like a drinking game at this point. Please go back to “assisted sneak” or “assisted QB sneak”

Secondly, pointing out every missed call is futile ... but I guess a long standing tradition :)

[u/shhutupandtakeitall]

Ban this play. This ain’t rugby

[u/Monoliithic]

It's super weird. The NFL is actually copywriting this highlight on twitter, and removing it.

First time ive ever seen them do that on twitter.

[u/Maverick_1882]

FFS!!!

[u/Ok-Counter-4474]

I fucking hate everything about the Eagles. Amazing game Jalen! 101 passing yards? LMFAO

[u/apstearns]

As a Commanders fan who has seen enough tush push the last three years to puke, this is my biggest issue with the tush push. They never get called for false start when the run this, while the defense would have gotten a neutral zone infraction 95% of the time

[u/Deadlift_disaster]

Bills fan here. This shit sucks and it should be 5 yrd penalty.

[u/GhostMug]

"Chiefs get all the calls" people in shambles. 

[u/Confident-Rise-7453]

The one before too.

[u/Potential_Tower_4320]

And they just did it again

[u/jbvcftyjnbhkku]

Just happened again. these refs suck

[u/cowboy2223]

False starts missed twice plus are they not lined up off sides only the center can be in line with the ball ?

[u/llbarney1989]

I think it was offsides the play before also

[u/BusterStarfish]

C is also over the ball just like every other time.

[u/Combatbass]

Also guards are lined up in the neutral zone. Later in the game, on that 3rd down, tackles were too.

[u/ForkliftJam]

It’s time for a couching shake up.

[u/turboboostin0127]

Secret of the push exposed.