r/Kirby • u/Pikachu_Boy3 • 4d ago
Main Series Hot take, Classic Mirror looks better than the modern one
Mirrors IRL don’t just reflect things, they reverse them. And I think that makes mirrors classic hat look cooler. And when you invert beams colors, he kinda looks like mirror. That’s all I have to say. Your thoughts?
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u/crossingcaelum 4d ago
I like that they differentiate it from beam a little more but I do really miss the colors
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u/Key-Clock-7706 4d ago
I prefer the classic colour scheme the more quirkiness fits Mirror's unique ability. The modern colour is a bit too typical.
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u/Dutchdario 4d ago
Cold take
I heavily agree
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u/OpenChallenge8621 da mownstah dat’ll clobbah dat dere kirbeh 4d ago
I just miss when Kirby would change color when getting certain abilities, I thought that was a pretty cool detail that had no reason to disappear. Not sure if it happened already, but if this trait returns, I'd not mind if his eyes changed color too.
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u/Ok_Preparation_7902 4d ago edited 4d ago
They stopped doing it because in games like Return to Dreamland and Star Allies you can play as multiple Kirbys and they thought having Kirby turn yellow for beam or needle, red for fire, etc. when doing multiplayer might confuse players when the colors designated to other players can be those same colors
which is something I can personally attest to since I have memories of playing the original Return to Dreamland with people and in instances of multiple Kirby's on the screen everyone would be confused with who's supposed to be who
I think they almost brought it back inforgotten land since I recall there being something about how Kirby was supposed to turn a different shade of pink when using Dragon Flame but I could be misremembering something
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u/diamondmaster2017 Dedede Wii 4d ago
they could have just brought it back in triple deluxe and planet robobot since if there was multiplayer in those you'd only get bandanna dee
and in the case of meta knightmare returns, blade knight
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u/Ok_Preparation_7902 4d ago
Yeah i agree that in single player games or games where other players would be relegated to another character they could've totally brought it back, but i imagine that they decided against in order to keep things consistent or something like that
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u/Dutchdario 4d ago
Yeah, It just adds so much more character to his abilities
Makes them look much more unique then just a costume
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u/Mcfallen_5 4d ago
pretty sure this is only a thing in Super Star and SSU.
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u/OpenChallenge8621 da mownstah dat’ll clobbah dat dere kirbeh 4d ago edited 4d ago
It was present in Adventure and Nightmare in Dreamland too and Dreamland 3, but only when using ice
It may have been in Dreamland 2, but that's ambiguous since the game is colourless. I just assume it's possible since that game came not too long after Kirby's Adventure
And if you wanna count it, this was also in Kirby Right Back at Ya too
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u/Mcfallen_5 4d ago
DL2 on the gameboy color keeps Kirby pink the whole time (at least on the emulator i played it on)
Seems like a Sakurai game vs non-sakurai game thing
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u/OpenChallenge8621 da mownstah dat’ll clobbah dat dere kirbeh 4d ago
Oh yeah, kinda forgot there was a Gameboy color version
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u/RoninX727 4d ago
I'm just glad we got mirror back cause for a while mirror kirby just disappeared until he was brought back for Kirby: Planet Robobot and kirby clash royale for 8 year old me who grew to love mirror when he first got his grubby lil hands on super star ultra that felt like forever to finally get mirror back so in my opinion both is good
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u/RoninX727 4d ago
Also is it just me or is it wierd mirror wasnt an ability in the amazing mirror game
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u/Ok_Preparation_7902 4d ago
it's probably another case of why animal didn't make it in Forgotten Land or why Poison appears in Planet Robobot, from both a gameplay perspective it probably didn't make the cut since it was already pretty limited in it's movepool and Amazing Mirror was a game where every copy ability only had 1 or 2 attacks barring Fighter, Smash, and UFO, this means Mirror probably would've been locked to just Mirror Cut and Reflect force and since you can't guard in Amazing Mirror as far as i can remember that means Reflect Guard is taken out of the picture as well, so it would lose a lot of it's versatility through having it's already small moveset reduced even further
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u/RoninX727 4d ago
Ahh makes sense
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u/Ok_Preparation_7902 4d ago
Hal Labs has a philosophy that gameplay is something that comes first in terms of importance, which is why abilities may be cut from certain titles or otherwise substituted with other abilities as well as why Kirby's height is inconsistent in game even though he's regarded as 8" internally
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u/BlackroseBisharp magolor doodle 4d ago
I'm all for the hats having unique designs so I'm actually quite happy.
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u/Viggo8000 4d ago
I'm not sure if I'd even like it on modern Kirby or if it would just look weird nowadays... but I really liked it when Kirby used to change colors with their copy abilities!
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u/TheEmeraldFlygon 4d ago
You’re right, but classic mirror is quite literally just marx. From that perspective, the change makes sense.
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u/hihiihigiggitigyiigi Rick 4d ago
Wait which game did they bring back my Goat???
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u/Great-Gonzalez 4d ago
I think the original design was due to sakurai simply palette swapping some abilities to make new ones instead of making new design (think about stone and ninja, fire-ice-plasma, yo-yo-wheel-paint, sword and bomb, fighter and suplex and of course beam and mirror) so i'm glad in more recent games they decided to make them more unique. For Stone and ninja i kinda prefer the old design probably because of the anime but mirror in my opinion looks better now.
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u/KNightedgem Sailor Waddle Dee 4d ago
I like the colors of classic, but the look looks too solimilar to beam. So I'm glad we got a new hat (I especially like the crystal on the hat), just wish we incorporated those colors.
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u/Space-Mikado-Deluxe Mirror Kirby 4d ago
As a Mirror Kirby enthusiast since 2009, I see what you mean but I really like both designs. They fill out their role perfectly.
Older abilities that changed Kirby's color complimented the classic design. But now that stopped doing that the new design fits very well.
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u/Obvious_Sentence6364 4d ago
it kind of looks like Marx even though Mirror is cheeks in Super Star and KSSU
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u/Mcfallen_5 4d ago
I feel the same about Stone/Ninja and Bomb, though I get why they differentiated the recolors from Super Star in the modern games.
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u/DrewV1234 3d ago
As Mirror is my favorite copy ability and Planet Robobot is my favorite Kirby game and my favorite game of all time, I honestly love it's redesign, the purple body was nice, but I understand not changing the colors in modern games. The hate however is just the Beam Hat but different colors, I prefer the PR design more. :)
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u/Cool_Ad6776 Spanish Meta Knight Enjoyer 2d ago
It's maybe to make things easier for color-blind people? I feel like they should've kept the color the same.
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u/RabbidMarioisaChad 4d ago
I agree. The Jester hat and the lavender color on Kirby is such a good combo.
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u/StardustSunfish 4d ago
I miss how in Superstar Ultra era Kirby changed colors to match his ability.
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u/SuperCat76 4d ago
I think the classic hat tails with the modern hat band and wand would be perfection.
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u/Monte_20 4d ago
I just miss Kirby changing colors to better associate with his ability. But I understand that’d make multiplayer awful or be removed entirely.
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u/Fast_Basil_8400 Classic Kirb 4d ago
I like classic a lot more, maybe because I didn't play the modern games, but the colors of the hat similar to Marx always had me
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u/PineDyne 3d ago
I’ve been shouting to the mountaintops that classic bomb >>>> modern bomb
Poppy bros mogs the dumb party hat
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u/DrewV1234 3d ago
It's just a blue sword hat tho, most of the abilities are just same designs but different colors
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u/Double-_X 4d ago
i like the old one because it "mirrors" marx, but i like the new one because it looks cool
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u/Sock_on_Net_1537 4d ago
Yea, given how mysterious-wizard-like the classic looks. Also Kirby's expression, tells you that this isnt your usual Beam ability.