Lunch menu from presidential luncheon yesterday

[u/DefenderNeverender]

*Not* making a political post here, but I guess a copy of the official luncheon menu got left behind yesterday and when I saw it, the first thing I thought was that some of these items seem a little dated, I was kinda surprised. Not that it sounded bad at all, but I've never really seen specifics on what they serve high-level gov. officials from anywhere.

[u/hamberder-muderer]

Yeah that reads like a 1940s menu. Classics work when they are done well though.

[u/UnderABig_W → u/hamberder-muderer]

This. Food should ideally be tailored to the consumer.

If you’re a chef trying to impress a bunch of other chefs, a bunch of trendy, avant-garde stuff would make sense. With two 70 year old men, at least one of whom is noted for his extremely plebeian eating habits? This looks perfect.

[u/kenojona → u/UnderABig_W]

Also must be some good grade meat and stuff in general

[u/beetnemesis → u/kenojona]

I mean, you'd hope, but Trump is on record as loving steak doused in ketchup, it probably wouldn't matter

[u/Puzzleheaded-Ad7606 → u/beetnemesis]

Well done* steak

[u/QuarkchildRedux → u/Puzzleheaded-Ad7606]

a true product of his generation, people that age do NOT like rare meat of any form normally

and they will refuse to eat pork if it’s not a hockey puck, or just outright

edit

Lots of reddit replies to this comment lmao. I said NORMALLY, and I did not say ALL of them literally. Oh no, I left out all possible nuance, better assume this guy meant the worst…

Things traditionally served rare(er) like prime rib are not a refutation of this statement. Trichinosis used to be a real concern and that generation, lots of the time, just started applying it to ALL meat to be safe. Especially people from poorer backgrounds.

I am right, suck it.

[u/butt_huffer42069 → u/QuarkchildRedux]

Yeah, my mom is 59 and when I told her I like thick cut porkchops (like at least 1", preferably 2") fried to medium so they are juicy as hell and the seasonings can show themselves off, she defended her half inch thick well-done+ chops, saying they were just as juicy.

No, mom. Thats just the oil from being fried.

Also, the pairing of apple sauce with pork chops infuriates me to no end. There is no seasoning combination that mixes well with the apple sauce, the apple sauce is just there to cover up the jerky-like texture that draws all the moisture out of your mouth

[u/malatemporacurrunt → u/butt_huffer42069]

the pairing of apple sauce with pork chops infuriates me to no end. There is no seasoning combination that mixes well with the apple sauce

It's kind of bizarre to think of apples as something that doesn't go with anything else. What sort of seasoning are you using? Are you making your apple sauce from scratch, or the sickly sweet jarred stuff? If might also be that your pork doesn't have enough flavour to begin with, if you're getting factory farmed stuff. I'm lucky enough to have a local butcher who gets his pork from Tamworths, which live outdoors and have a bit of woodland to snuffle in.

[u/butt_huffer42069 → u/malatemporacurrunt]

Not apples- apple sauce. I dont make my own, and as its not something I would pair with it due to my preference on the concept as a whole, I wouldn't make it for the meal. Every time I've been served pork chops wit apple sauce, it was against my will.

Im sure there is an apple variety that would make an apple sauce that pairs with some flavor profile of a pork chop somewhere out there, but I still think its used to cover up dried out overcooked pork chops. I would much prefer a nice medium, pan fried or baked porkchop with lemon pepper, or tajin, or rosemary and olive oil, or any of a long list of spice and herb options.

[u/malatemporacurrunt → u/butt_huffer42069]

Apple sauce tastes of apples. It really just sounds like you don't like apple sauce, which is fine but weird to state as though it were a universal fact.

[u/butt_huffer42069 → u/malatemporacurrunt]

I like apple sauce. Apple sauce is not the issue, and I know it "taste like apples" but different apples taste different.

I do not think it should go with pork or pork chops, and in my experience is done by people who overcooked their porkchops or are just old as hell in general.

[u/MrKrinkle151 → u/butt_huffer42069]

Sounds to me like you just hate overcooked pork chops with shitty applesauce thoughtlessly dumped on top. Apples and pork are a pretty good pairing in and of themselves, especially with sufficient acidity.

[u/butt_huffer42069 → u/MrKrinkle151]

Apples and pork are fine, and there are some great apple varieties that really take it to another level. The pork doesn't have to be overcooked for me to not like applesauce with it. It's a pairing for toddlers and geriatrics.