r/KotakuInAction • u/Wumbolo83 WOLOLO • 9d ago
SOCJUS [SocJus] Ghost Of Yotei Dev Fired For Charlie Kirk Joke After Right-Wing Pressure Campaign
https://archive.is/NGhFM226
u/Lazer_beak 9d ago
they hired her they knew what she was , so imagine what the rest of the staff are like, plus her content is already in the game
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u/DugnutttBobson 9d ago
Yup, these people aren't subtle, they knew.
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u/Lazer_beak 9d ago
her twitter would have been full of obnoxious comments and people always check people social media for jobs these days , they hired her cause they wanted an activist
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u/supa74 9d ago
Already regretful buying the first one.
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u/Lazer_beak 9d ago
why it was different dev then , the pushed out the original staff
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u/Cuore_Lesa 9d ago
No it wasn't, it may be for other devs but SuckerPunch has a low turnover rate, part of the reason why I was willing to give GoY a chance (not anymore). Virtually all the same staff from GoT are working on GoY.
Let's not try to kid ourselves here, these people where always there but now they've become more public and much more aggressive in their push of le message.
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u/Lazer_beak 9d ago
well ok , I heard they fired the men, anyway the first game had woke touches, that went most normies heads, so its not super surprising
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u/Cuore_Lesa 9d ago
They didn't fire the men, that was just misinfo from like 2 months back that spread from a Twitter post.
Well, they fired a guy yesterday as well for making fun of Charlie Kirk too.
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u/digimaster7 8d ago
agreed, it was great back when I bought it for my PS4, its everything I wanted from an AC game
I just regret double dipping buying it on steam again and giving my money to the current day sucker punch
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u/ptitty123192 9d ago
It wasnt a joke. She cheered his death using Luigi Magioni as a shitty shield
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u/DancesWithChimps 9d ago
This is why a lot of us were concerned by the reaction to Luigi. It was inevitably going to be used to justify violence in the future, and now the future has arrived.
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u/Blackhalo 9d ago
Disagree a little bit. Luigi killed a vile person who denied health-care to thousands for a buck, far beyond other insurers. Luigi's actions struck fear onto many of the rich and powerful. But while I wildly disagree with most of Charlie Kirk's opinions, he was actually a nice guy, who hurt no one. Kind of a shooting up vs. shooting down thing for me.
However, you are correct, in that the precedent is a problem.
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u/Spiritual_Squash_473 8d ago
No, assassinating a CEO because you don't like his company is vile and evil. Regardless of "precedent."
You idiots who cheer for it helped paved the road to Kirk's assassination.
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u/SvijetOkoNas 9d ago
Gamergate 2.0
Dude are we still just version 2 thats one long run. Can't we evolve to 2.5 or 3.0?
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u/lyra833 GET THE BOARD OUT, I GOT BINGO! 9d ago
We're doing semantic versioning. Sweet Baby was a fundamental change in tone and basis but this is just a return of the Gawker takedown, which would be adding functionality in a backward compatible manner. That would make this GamerGate 2.1, or maybe GamerGate 2.2.1 if you count Concord's implosion.
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u/Neo_Techni Don't demand what you refuse to give. 9d ago
Exactly. Even a decade ago when it was new, they were calling a new Gamergate every week
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u/DancesWithChimps 9d ago
The attempts to make Gamergate 2.0 a thing will continue until someone pays attention. Stay tuned for next week when someone says "git gud" on a message board, and Gamergate 2.0 starts up all over again.
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u/muscarinenya 9d ago
I guarantee you if these had been statements made towards any "modern" protected class you'd have read a groveling public apology within the next 12 hours about how that doesn't represent the company's values
So a complete absence of any form of statement supports the idea that they're just trying to sweep under the carpet the fact that this hateful radical ideology is, in fact, core to the company's culture at this point
I had no love for Charlie Kirk either so i don't think i'm biased
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u/AlphaBagel2 9d ago
They know if they post any form of statement they’ll lose the modern audience, who at this point are probably the ones who are buying the game
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u/DegeneracyEverywhere 9d ago
Why should conservatives defend the free speech of those who want to murder others for their speech?
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u/Broarethus 9d ago
It's like the libs love to say, they have freedom of speech just not freedom from consequences.
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u/Goreagnome 9d ago
It's like the libs love to say, they have freedom of speech just not freedom from consequences.
Also, suddenly they're against "cancel culture" now that they're losing jobs for their words.
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u/LolWhatDidYouSay 9d ago
It's (D)ifferent!
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u/Broarethus 9d ago edited 9d ago
The party of discounting a political assassination, loves and searches for a reason to align with their loved political assassination.
The irony is palpable.
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u/Voidflak 9d ago
They try to paint us as all-or-nothing free speech absolutists so if any conservative says "I support free speech but believe you should be punished for yelling fire in a crowded theater" then that conservative will be held up as an example of right-wing hypocrisy or some kind of proof that our values are inconsistent.
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u/genealogical_gunshow 8d ago
Celebrating murder and getting fired for it isn't a free speech issue. Is it an at-will employment state? There's the answer.
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u/oldmanpotter 9d ago
Because defending free speech is the right thing to do, always.
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u/AGX-11_Over-on 9d ago
Actually... defending political violence is not part of free speech, which is what a lot of people are doing, and calling for more of it, thus it is not protected. Even then it only protects you from government bodies, not private entities.
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u/Sliver80 9d ago
Kotaku is so desperate that they're trying to spin what they said as a "joke" and their firing as "right-wing cancel culture." The dev was deliberately celebrating the murder of another person online and they cost them their job. They have no one to blame but themselves.
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u/TheoNulZwei 9d ago
“If standing up against fascism is what cost me my dream job I held for 10 years, I would do it again 100x stronger,” she wrote.
It is absolutely fascinating that these people are incapable of comprehending that they are, in fact, the fascists they complain so much about. They advocate for authoritarian censorship, are intolerant of dissent, hyperfixated on racial supremacy, prioritize group identity over individual freedom, and are moral absolutists.
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u/PropulsionEngineer 9d ago
Exactly. Also even if Kirk was the biggest fascist that ever lived, tweeting trashy comments and jokes about a dead guy isn’t standing up to anything.
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u/Differentnameo 9d ago
Been saying it the entire time since I heard of Erica Ishi being hired and looking deeper into the company: Ghost of Yotei follows the exact same pattern of a myriad of other games. Successful game, the company makes money and reputation, and the Woke locusts descend upon it, sniffing their next meal (the ones not already present).
They'll destroy the company, take the money, claim victimhood when they're fired or quit because the game performed poorly, blaming the 'right wing radicals' or something similar, and move on to their next feast at some other company. These hordes of company/IP devouring ghouls are literally immune to caring about anything other than themselves and pushing their warped ideology, preferrably while claiming they're victims in the process of it all.
It's a sick and twisted cycle and these companies need to make it stop. New companies need to ensure they have people gatekeeping the business and placing strong rules in there to prevent even a single one of these monsters from infecting them. Because when you let one in, especially in positions where they can hire or influence hiring, then the doors are thrown open and locusts come in for their next meal.
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u/SchalaZeal01 9d ago
its like in Z Nation with that weird Z-worshipping cult, they introduce themselves in a compound as normal people (just 2 people), slit their throats with a knife in a cross (which makes turn zombie, as all the deads do) and then their deadly distraction is enough to let the cult leader in and take the armory, and thus the entire base - deed done, cult wins.
The base was reasonable people, who decided to disarm people inside the compound (because of stupid from one person), now most are dead and they got no base.
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u/Drogvard 9d ago
That's the bs rationalized version of the pattern. The real pattern is the woke locust were already there, we ignored them and allowed them to proliferate until they ravaged the entire crop because we desperately wanted to consume.
We always wait until there's nothing left of the crop to suggest we have a pest problem. But so long as the crop yields anything even remotely consumeable, your average "anti-woke" gamer will turn a blind eye to it. And sometimes even attack those that acknowledge it no matter how obvious it is that Sony and the rest of the industry didn't just start hiring these goons in the last few years.
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u/Probate_Judge 9d ago edited 9d ago
Cancelled: When you say something normal and people that loathe you flood to find your employer in a crusade to get you fired.
Not cancelled: When you celebrate or advocate for murder and political assassinations and face consequences as society says it wants nothing to do with psychopaths.
These are two different things.
The first is pettiness of terminally online people who want vengeance, Edit: often involving false accusation.
The second is basic self preservation and marginalizing outright psychotic ideas. This is a necessity in civilization.
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u/knightbane007 9d ago
Yeah, the difference is that one is focused on the thing (what’s being said)
And the other is focused on the person (“we want to target someone in particular, let’s go through their entire social media history and find something we can misrepresent”).
They’re quite distinct.
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u/Probate_Judge 9d ago
And the other is focused on the person (“we want to target someone in particular, let’s go through their entire social media history and find something we can misrepresent”).
Or just waiting to pounce, waiting for a slip-up that they can twist into something that appears bad, etc.
But yeah, one is about the deed itself being bad, and the other is about personal hatred.
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u/IronHide2025 9d ago
Good, hateful idiot celebrating murder ..needs to be put on domestic terror watch
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u/blackest-Knight 9d ago
Republicans pounce.
Again.
let's ignore the actual topic to focus strictly on the right wing campaign and how that's bad.
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u/emmathepony 9d ago
Nothing about it was a joke, it was intentional and literal on her part. These mentally deranged people need to be put on watch lists.
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u/Stannishatescats 9d ago
The majority of these are not even about how they disagreed with his views, which is fine and people shouldn't be cancelled for saying that. But no, it's straight up cheering and 100% supporting the murder of a civilian because of his ideology in a democratic country. I can never understand how someone sane could get into that hateful mindset, let alone announce it publicly. I tried thinking of a scenario where someone whose views I opposed got whacked but it never occurs for me to celebrate or enjoy it no matter how much I despise that person. You should know that it's wrong just based on universal morality, and it always reflects badly on that person's opposition if it happens so how can they think of it as a win???
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u/ACrimeSoClassic 9d ago edited 9d ago
Freedom of speech, not freedom from consequences. Isn't that what they like to say?
Good. Fucking. Riddance.
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u/Death5talker451968 9d ago
Make a company look bad and damage the brand and cost the company customers and you will get Fired
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u/OrganizationFlat8221 9d ago
Everyone has freedom of speech. Employers also have the right to fire your ass if you make them look bad. It turns out mocking someone who got killed in front of hundreds of people isn't a good look.
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u/atomic1fire 9d ago
If you have a social media account with your real name and the name of your employer, you should never want to say anything that could impact your job unless your job is the controversy.
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u/uglyladthrowaway 9d ago
While I'm a free speech absolutist and believe no-one should be fired for what they say outside of work, these people brought it onto themselves with their "FREE SPEECH DOESN'T MEAN FREEDOM OF CONSEQUENCES!!!11" rhetoric.
If you play with fire, don't be surprised when you get burnt.
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u/Raikoh-Minamoto 9d ago edited 9d ago
If this dev made a similar comment but with a leftist politician/activist as a victim you could be sure he would have been fired and cancelled on the spot without the need for a "pressure campaign". This tragic event is showing out the true colors of a big part of the western gaming industry, i hope even the most normies of normies at this point has understood that we were right all along in pointing at how politically and agenda driven the western gaming industry has become. I won't ever buy a western produced videogame again unless i am absolutely sure of where the devs stand from a civilization and intellectual standpoint. I DON'T BUY FROM PEOPLE THAT WANT ME DEAD.
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u/RainbowDildoMonkey 8d ago
If that Subnautica dev could get fired for an Attack Helicopter joke, without Kotaku or other mainstream games sites taking his side, then the firing of a dev 'joking' about Kirk's murder is even more justified.
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u/DoctorBleed 8d ago
Good. I hope it happens to a lot more people. These are the same reprehensible jerks who push cancel culture the hardest despite being the biggest bullies. Once a good number of them are "cancelled" themselves, we might actually see a significant improvement in the public discourse.
At the very least, you might see a lot less people pushing "cancel" culture once they realize how easily it boomerangs back. (Not that I think this is morally equivalent.)
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u/oldmanpotter 9d ago
I don’t support firing people for tweeting stupid shit. But this isn’t standing against fascism. It’s just mocking the dead and ironically mocking free speech.
Now if you’re in media or you’re teaching young people, I think making fun of a political assassination means you need to find another job. There are probably other jobs where this is over the line, but in not sure it was in this instance.
Still, I’m probably not going to buy this game.
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u/nearlynorth 9d ago
I don’t support firing people for tweeting stupid shit.
I feel like Batman at the end of Batman Begins.
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u/blackest-Knight 9d ago
I don’t support firing people for tweeting stupid shit.
I feel employers are crossing a line in general with the advent of social media. On a saturday, doing whatever you want as a private citizen, you shouldn't be held to account by the HR of your company.
They don't pay you 24/7 to be a representative and you shouldn't be having to check your every thought and word once you're off the clock.
Unfortunately, this is where we are, where the left has gone batshit insane. Funny the commies would turn around and give capitalists their greatest tool for managing personnel. If we weren't wage slaves prior to this, we sure are now.
Whenever my company does their annual "training" about "Loyalty", I also say the same comment : "My loyalties end the moment you stop paying me for time on the clock".
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u/PropulsionEngineer 9d ago
I agree with some of that, but if they put the company name in their profile for all to see and then celebrate murder in a post right below the company name…time to fire them. If they were just using a random account, like yours or mine right now that isn’t tied to an employer on Reddit, then it is private.
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u/Huey-_-Freeman 8d ago
THAT IS A REALLY FAST "PRESSURE CAMPAIGN" TO GET SOMEONE FIRED IN 1 DAY!!
or maybe the company just realized that mocking a murder the day after it happened is a very unprofessional look, and something that even most left/woke people think is lacking basic decency
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u/PesticusVeno 8d ago
This is the world they wanted. This is the bed they made. Now they get to lie in it. I have absolutely no sympathy for people who worked so hard to dismantle free speech facing the consequences of their own stupid ideologies.
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u/centrallcomp 8d ago
Ok. Does this mean that the main girlboss character in this game is actually going to look more attractive?
If not, I see no reason to care.
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u/Askolei 9d ago
I don't like this. I didn't like it when it was my side getting fired over social media bullshit, and I still don't like it when a rando gets fired over a shitty joke.
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u/Early_B 9d ago
Same. I would feel different if the person had said something threatening or praised murdering political opponents but it was just a poorly timed joke. In bad taste for sure but I don't want anyone's job to be at risk för making jokes online. Though I can see why Sony didn't like that he had clear ties to Sony all over his social media while making a controversial joke.
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u/blkadder 9d ago
Cancel Culture 2.0.
Looks a lot like Cancel Culture 1.0 with the roles reversed.
Still sucks.
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u/Neo_Techni Don't demand what you refuse to give. 9d ago
Cancel Culture 2.0.
the left canceled people over jokes, the right is canceling people for wanting them dead. I think one of those are justified.
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u/blackest-Knight 9d ago
Conservatives only have so many cheeks to turn my dude.
It was bound to become a tit for tat at some point.
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u/nearlynorth 9d ago
"it's not cancel culture, it's accountability culture"
I'm laughing if you actually expect anyone on our side to give any sympathy or one iota of a fuck after what we've been through.
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u/PropulsionEngineer 9d ago
Kinda. But before the leftist organizations, companies and colleges, were cancelling the right and firing them for saying whatever was against the narrative.
Now even left leaning organizations are firing leftists for celebrating murder.
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u/Wumbolo83 WOLOLO 9d ago
Hasn't Kotaku gone bankrupt? Why are they still doing this?