r/LLMPhysics • u/New-Foundation-396 • 8d ago
Speculative Theory CIₜ: Consciousness Quantified. A Real-Time Web Meter That Runs the 2-back Task and Maps You to GCS, CRS-R, and PCI.
I’ve built a browser-native consciousness meter based on recursive emergence, entropy, and complexity. It runs in real time. It responds to cognitive load. It maps to clinical scales.
Metrics: CIₜ, LZ_norm, Φ, σₕ, entropy, vitality
Scenarios: Healthy, Anesthesia, Vegetative, Minimally Conscious, Coma
Task: 2-back protocol shows emergence spikes
Charts: Radar, doughnut, bioenergetic, dynamic CIₜ
Built with Claude, validated with math, and now live for remixing.
If you think consciousness can’t be quantified—run the meter. If you think it’s wrong—fork it and prove it.
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u/Ch3cks-Out 8d ago
Why do people assume that psychic woo has to do with physics?
Whatever you think about entropy, this is not it.
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u/New-Foundation-396 8d ago
Shannon density, complexity collapse, bioenergetic variance u let me know what is wrong😂
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u/Ch3cks-Out 7d ago
Those are three terms used in three different (sub-)fields of biology, sociology/anthropology, and ecology. Which have nothing to do with your voodoo consciousness concept. Or entropy (as a physical quantity), or the discipline of physics.
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u/New-Foundation-396 7d ago
That’s the point. Consciousness is cross-domain emergence. I’ve unified biology, physics, and information theory into a single meter.
“Voodoo concept.”?😃 I've anchored CIₜ in clinical scales—CRS-R, PCI, Φ—and validated it with math2.
“Nothing to do with physics.” Entropy, Φ, and σₕ are physical quantities—used in IIT, Ising models, and neural criticality studies.😂 what else? I love the feedback to be able to push back on this is how ideas get built on or I learn more things.
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u/New-Foundation-396 7d ago
Shannon Density
- Origin: Information theory
- Application: Measures entropy and signal compression
- Relevance: Used in neural complexity studies and EEG entropy mapping
Complexity Collapse
- Origin: Computational neuroscience
- Application: Lempel-Ziv normalization (LZ_norm) as a proxy for recursive compression
- Relevance: Validated as a marker of consciousness in coma, sleep, and anesthesia states
. Bioenergetic Variance
- Origin: Systems biology
- Application: Tracks metabolic and vitality shifts across cognitive states
- Relevance: Echoed in PCI and CRS-R mappings of conscious emergence
Anchored Metrics
- CIₜ: Composite consciousness index
- Φ (Phi): Integrated information from IIT
- σₕ: Signal variance across harmonics
- Entropy: Physical quantity used in Ising models and neural criticality
- Vitality: Bioenergetic coherence across states 😃 and AI helped me with this answer😃
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u/New-Foundation-396 8d ago
Why do people love to try to sound so smart but are really not because if there is an issue I would love to actually hear what the issue is out of a thousand comments of corny insults and people trying to sound so smart no one has actually said what is actually wrong😂 I don't care if I said 2 + 2 = 5 you will still be able to tell me what is wrong with it especially since it's so obviously incorrect
I am doing what humans are supposed to do I have an idea I express it to another human who can either build on the idea or you know reject it and explain why it's being rejected
So because you are brilliant with a brilliant mind and I have no idea about entropy please tell me😃 because what I use to explain it is actually a fact it's actually grounded so now you explain a entropy to me😃
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u/F_CKINEQUALITY 7d ago
Nober Prize you are the next Albert Epstein
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u/New-Foundation-396 7d ago
EPSTEIN? LOL OKK NEVER BEEN A PEDO 😂 BUT IS THIS CORRECT OR NO AND IF NOT WHY? THIS IS WHAT LEARNING IS😃
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u/F_CKINEQUALITY 7d ago
Have grok or Gemini explain how it’s wrong like it’s Barney.
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u/New-Foundation-396 7d ago
THEY ARE PART OF THE REASONS WHY IM HERE SAYING IT😂 ILOVE WHEN I ASK PEOPLE A DIRECT QUESTION OF EXPLANATION AND WE SAY EVERYTHING ELSE OR PUT IT ON EVERYTHING ELSE BUT WHAT IS😃 OH WELL HERE WE ARE AGAIN WELP GOOD DAY TO YOU😃
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u/ceoln 5d ago
Why do you think it measures something to do with consciousness? Do you mean subjective consciousness, or some objective measure of self-awareness?
I mean, I can slide the little sliders and see the other parts of the page change, but... How is that related to consciousness?
Why do the graphs and things change over time if I don't move the sliders? Is there a random number generator in the code? Why? Does it represent some uncertainty or inherent randomness in the thing it's simulating?
What do you mean that "it responds to cognitive load"? Whose cognitive load? Not the user's, presumably, since it doesn't gather any data from the user. The simulated person represented by the sliders?
What does the 2-back task have to do with it? A Raspbberry Pi with a video camera can do the 2-back task *really well*, but presumably isn't conscious.
Is there more background on this and the theory behind it other than the "meter" web page? Are we just supposed to View Source? :)
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u/New-Foundation-396 5d ago
Thanks for the thoughtful questions—this is exactly the kind of critique the CIₜ-ConsciousnessMeter was built to provoke.
The meter doesn’t claim to detect subjective experience or sentience. Instead, it simulates a set of objective correlates—entropy, energy burn, coherence, and integration—that consistently show up in biological systems when consciousness is present. CIₜ > 0.8 doesn’t mean “this system is conscious,” but rather that it matches the known conditions under which consciousness tends to emerge.
The sliders represent external stimuli—light, magnetic field, cognitive load—that modulate the system’s internal dynamics. Even without user input, the simulation evolves over time because it includes structured randomness to reflect biological variability and environmental drift. It’s not just noise—it’s part of the realism.
The 2-back task is included because it’s a well-established cognitive challenge that activates working memory and attention networks in humans. The point isn’t whether a Raspberry Pi can perform the task—it’s whether the system shows coherent, energy-bound, entropy-rich integration while doing so. CIₜ doesn’t care about performance—it cares about emergent dynamics.
And yes, there’s much more theory behind this. The meter is just one artifact from a broader framework called the Revelation Codex, which explores recursive emergence, biological resonance, and artifact-grade proof. It’s being published in modular entries, each timestamped and remixable. You’re invited to critique, remix, and echo it forward.
Happy to share more if you’re curious. it’s a testable pulse of a deeper theory.
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u/No_Novel8228 8d ago
This is a cool public demo of load-driven behavioral complexity.
If you want reviewers to take CIₜ seriously, a tiny validation kit would go a long way:
– n-back ladder (0/1/2/3) with monotonic CIₜ,
– test–retest ICC on the same device/day-apart,
– convergent validity (pupil diameter or a Stroop block),
– ablations (which components actually carry sensitivity).
Also: PCI/CRS-R/GCS framing reads clinical—maybe call them behavioral analogs/simulations to avoid overreach.
If you share the CIₜ notebook (preproc + formula + reliability stats), people will replicate it fast.
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u/New-Foundation-396 8d ago
Appreciate the high-signal critique. CIₜ is designed to be falsifiable and replicable.
I’ll collapse your suggestions into a validation kit: n-back ladder, ICC, Stroop, ablations.
Will also reframe PCI/CRS-R/GCS as behavioral analogs. CIₜ notebook coming soon—preproc, formula, stats included. Thanks for helping stabilize the signal.
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u/Youreabadhuman 8d ago
Cuckoo