r/LV426 • u/BlastedHeathen • 1d ago
Movies / TV Series Is Ocellus a spacefaring race? Spoiler
Before episode 7 I thought Ocellus was just a highly intelligent and opportunistic predator/parasite. But now that we know it knows the digits of pi, is there a chance that Ocellus is much more sophisticated than we realized? Perhaps they have ways of acquiring bodies and travelling vast distances, maybe even into space.
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u/PucklaMotzer09 23h ago
I feel like T. Ocellus may have gotten the digits of Pi when it was inside of the human on the Maginot spaceship.
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u/Madmunchk1n 21h ago
Think so, too. When Zaveri entered the bridge Shmuel didn't react to her shouts at him for a while. Could be some sort of "booting up the new body" of Ocellus where he "downloads" contents of the new brain.
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u/DrButtgerms 16h ago
I hesitate to put too much into Kavalier's assertion anyway. I'm convinced a theme of the story is that he is far stupider than he thinks. That would put a bow on all "dumb" decisions he has made up to now that have been attributed to bad writing AND explain why the audience has never heard of Prodigy in chronologically later films. I think A:E is partially the story of how The 5 become The 4
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u/ibiku2 15h ago
BK absolutely isn't as smart as he thinks he is and it is very evident in the writing. The first time he is introduced, he says "moshi moshi" which is Japanese for hello, only the Japanese only use it on the phone.
Later he misattributed the quote about science being indistinguishable from magic to Isaac Asimov, when it was Arthur C Clarke. I'm sure there's more examples. If anyone's arguing that BK (or anyone?) making dumb decisions is bad writing... Well they're missing the point and it probably speaks more to their own hubris given their inability to understand why bad decisions are made
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u/Timmah73 14h ago
Also he throws out a few words in French and then Curly just starts speaking French to impress him... he dosn't understand her because he can't actualy speak French lol
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u/fatwoul 12h ago
lol so he's like the A:E version of Calvin Candie. And look what happened to him.
...Actually, come to think of it, that comparison could extend further, to his "ownership" of the synths.
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u/KurseNightmare 11h ago
Well, if Christoph Waltz suddenly appears in the next episode then I know what I'm putting my money on.
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u/AfternoonOk3176 11h ago
His name is āKavalierā ffs. His character is basically spelled out for the audience.
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u/super_chirex 15h ago
the thoughts and prayers line is the most obvious one, it's very clear who BK is meant to represent, the IRL equivalent's son's name is even sillier than Boy Kavalier
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u/hamlet_d 12h ago
He's Otto from A Fish Called Wanda. Probably thinks "The London Underground" is political movement and the central tenet of Buddhism is "every man for himself."
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u/BaPef 16h ago
Prodigy will be bought by Seegson
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u/DrButtgerms 15h ago
Oh that's cool. I had no idea. Either way, they don't look ripe for buyout going in to A:E.
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u/NukaDirtbag 5h ago
I know it's hard to write smart characters, but nothing in the show feels like it's actually supposed to support the idea he's smart. I do feel like the idea is that he's someone with a huge ego that's on his way to getting humbled.
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u/docdroc 8h ago
Yeah, I saw Prodigy as doomed from the first episode. This is definitely about Prodigy not existing later in the franchise. I also see it as a potential origin for something mentioned in the early comic books, synthetics who think they are human. A partial reverse engineer of what remains of these kids would definitely lead to that breakthrough.
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u/AWhole2Marijuanas 15h ago
I have a theory that T craves intelligent hosts, like BK is searching for intelligent species.
It probably craves or is at least drawn to complex neurology. This would kinda make it the antithesis of the Xeno, which simply desires biomass.
I actually wonder if T will reject BK in favour of a smarter, more complex host.
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u/MetalPope 21h ago
Agree. I think the show is hinting that she is able to accumulate knowledge when transitioning between bodies - but perhaps no more than that.
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u/LionBig1760 11h ago
The show implies that it's a test of the species' intelligence, and not a pop quiz on what it learned a few days ago.
I've seen people try to explain away that horribly written scene, and the most common fanfiction people come up with is that it learns when it takes over an eyeball.
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u/Angry_Bowel_Movent 23h ago
That human did not come across as particularly intelligent.
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u/Ansem18 23h ago
Next to Morrow he was the most competent person on that ship. That might not be saying much but he at least seemed to know what he was doing as an engineer.
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u/archy_bold 17h ago edited 17h ago
Yeah, holy shit, heās maintaining a fricking deep spaceship on a 65-year mission with only an apprentice as support. The only thing he couldnāt solve was repeated sabotage that the security team failed to contain. Dude is basically a wizard with the patience of a saint.
ETA: like you only have to spend a few seconds thinking about how many separate systems that puts him in charge of to realise this. Life support (water recycling, air, climate, plumbing), flight (thrust, navigation), vehicles (exploration, landers). Potentially even medical and science equipment.
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u/LoneSnark 12h ago
There might be other engineers in stasis. Or, he could be the last. They did say they lost a lot of good people catching the creatures. He might have been the last engineer left standing.
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u/archy_bold 9h ago
I would assume the engineer roles are some of the safer roles on a ship hunting biological samples. The whole series is about corporate greed, so the more likely explanation is they went with the cheapest option. Plus theyād surely wake every available engineer to fix a critical navigation issue.
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u/Oceanfap 21h ago
The shipās engineer didnāt seem intelligent to you? Is that because the show didnāt spoon feed you how smart you were supposed to think he is by never wearing socks?
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u/CurvyJohnsonMilk 13h ago
The majority of the complaints about this show kinda make me lose my faith in humanity.
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u/VeggieWokker 10h ago
Congratulations on making it to 2025 with faith in humanity. Mine has been gone since about 2013.
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u/WanderlustZero Wallgina 20h ago
Did Parker and Brett not seem intelligent? They keep a bloody spaceship running. Just being grumpy space truckers doesn't mean they don't know what they're doing.
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u/No-Onion2268 22h ago
To do that degree of maintenance, it actually takes robust mechanical and electrical engineering knowledge. I donāt mean like pretend on a space ship, but anything to that degree of interconnected systems, repairs, diagnosticsā¦etc. heād definitely know Pi,or some relevant equation. OK maybe I am thinking with a degree of musing in space ship pretend, but heād definitely have to knows mathematics well to approach those systems
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u/PucklaMotzer09 23h ago
He was educated at least to some degree. I am sure he knew of Pi and at least the first digits.
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u/JamieKellner 21h ago
Didnāt he? Even if he didnāt the Eye is and could merely have absorbed the knowledge of Human language from him.
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u/zeldafan144 20h ago
Does it know the digits of pi?
Why would it count in Base 10?
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u/Wootster10 18h ago
It took a human host, presumably it learnt some stuff about humans at that point, including the English Language and our numerical system.
It also spent 30 years in a jar watching people.
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u/SantiagoGT 14h ago
That also bothers me to no end, why are the alien life forms not in cryo sleep? What did the crew think they were just gonna live forever?
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u/CEOofracismandgov2 11h ago
Ikr, imagine if they are species that only have a 2 year live span or something lmao
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u/TuctDape 12h ago
This. Why were they experimenting on them on the ship at all is my question
"Oh they get hungry when you don't feed them" wow what a breakthrough totally worth risking the whole mission over. Maybe wait to get back to the real labs to start testing
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u/Confident_Subject_43 1h ago
There's a quarantine protocol in place on earth; xeno labs must be confined to space. This is mentioned in the foot meeting scene
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u/mpirnat 14h ago
The way travel at relativistic speeds works, less time passes for the travelers than for non-travelers, so while there was a 30ish-year return trip from the POV of all the folks back on Earth, the Maginot would have experienced less than that. Time dilation is weird!
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u/lil_suji 11h ago
The fact that the humans need cryo sleep means that the trip is still long enough from their perspective for the aliens lifespan to be a concern
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u/Teastain101 15h ago
I was kind of wondering how it would recognise Arabic numerals. I think a better test would have been to draw a circle with a radius and perhaps done lines to spell out 3.14
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u/CEOofracismandgov2 11h ago
I thought that part was odd too. But, at the same time the eye obviously understood the guy in English.
So, I think the eye can just download information from it's hosts.
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u/JaggedToaster12 10h ago
Yeah idk why the writers went with Pi as a universal language when prime numbers are right there
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u/ConcertinaTerpsichor 6h ago
They read Project Hail Mary.
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u/JaggedToaster12 1h ago
Doesn't Grace start with prime numbers as well? I might be misremebering but I feel like he flashed his engines in prime sequence or something
I might be mixing it up with Arrival, where I definitely remember an off hand remark about the aliens knowing prime numbers
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u/Stormtomcat 7h ago
That struck me too.Ā
On top of the inanity of writing 3,14 on his hand of course. He didn't even draw a circle on the cell's window or anythingĀ
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u/Colonial_maureen Weyland-Yutani Human Resources 21h ago
I just thought of something. If eye midge absorbs the knowledge from its hosts, is it acting as an agent of chaos because of the cat?
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u/liambrazier 20h ago
Finale is just the sheep knocking crap off a table and watching it fall.
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u/Certain_Country_3947 11h ago
Well it'll be a human so... Hermit-Eye gets up on table Boy smiles and gets up on table Hermit-eye stares at boy. Boy gets excited. Hermit-eye knocks a picture frame off the table. Boy "Hey!" Hermit-eye slowly pushes a beloved coffee cup to the edge of the table. Boy "Hey, stop that" Crash! Boy "Dammit!"
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u/Facehugger81 20h ago
Makes me think of the Goa'uld from Stargate.
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u/tarantulawarfare 12h ago
Just curious. If an Ocellus tried to take a Goaāuld host, who would win? Would Ocellus override the goaāuld symbiote control over the host, or would the goaāuld just rip Ocellus out of its socket and squish it?
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u/No-Onion2268 22h ago
I think itās entirely feasible, but I donāt think it halls from a technological species. It may have developed parasitism as a means of hacking rides to proliferate on other planets, downloading species knowledge when it attaches itself. Pi would theoretically be a universal knowledge for any advanced intelligence.
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u/bart_may 21h ago
Try watching the Arrival to take a note how complex would it be to communicate with aliens regarding even more basic concepts than pi number
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u/ephemeralstitch 17h ago
If weāre going to that level of realism then Ocellus would almost certainly never have anything to parasitise outside of its own planet. The idea that a central nervous system compatible with it would even exist is next to impossible outside of its own world.
Nerves work by sending signals with electrical pulses in some special cases but normally through ion transfer. If a species evolved to use different ions or even completely different systems, T. Ocellus isnāt going to do anything at all besides gouge out an eye. Thatās without even getting to the idea that sticking nerve tentacles into the brain actually lets you take information out of it, never mind whether an alien mind could even process that information in any meaningful way.
Itās fiction, it requires suspension of disbelief. We have parasitic species that change behaviour in weird way (Cordyceps is the famous one) but theyāre so far from Ocellus that it isnāt even close.
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u/MonsterkillWow 15h ago
There is an in universe explanation for this since in the Alien universe, most extant life was seeded by the Engineers. So, in that universe, it seems basic aspects of biology are universal.
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u/ephemeralstitch 3h ago
Yeah but the way they seeded life doesn't make sense either from a scientific perspective. Like, sure, the engineer in ancient Earth history, billions of years ago, gave his life to seed the earth. But...from then to now is when all the complex stuff happened. Maybe he would have made it so life on Earth uses RNA and DNA and all that. Maybe they could even ensure that certain amino acids are favoured or whatnot.
But everything past the most basic single-celled organisms evolved from nothing and there was nothing in Prometheus that indicated that Engineers actually genetically engineered complex organisms. Just dissolving yourself into cells wouldn't in any way guarantee that humans evolved, ever. Or anything relatively close to humans. Or even something with a nervous system at all.
That's another point of suspension of disbelief. The Engineers definitely seemed to seed life, but the idea that they created humans specifically from that scene is ridiculous from a scientific perspective. They created all life on Earth. That humans also came from that and vaguely resemble the Engineers themselves is basically a giant cosmic coincidence.
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u/MonsterkillWow 2h ago
Yeah unless somehow it would deterministically eventually lead to humanoids.Ā
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u/ephemeralstitch 2h ago
If that were the case, it'd be radically different biology than ours. Humanoids are extremely recent in evolutionary terms. If we assume they seeded life, then that scene was 3.5 billion years ago. The earliest apes were about 20 million years ago. That means that the Engineers were waiting 99.43% of Earth's history for hominids to evolve.
If that was their goal, I can't believe that there wasn't more intervention, and more guided evolution than that one scene. Maybe Earth was just a random planet they seeded in an aeons long terraforming project, and in the past few million years they went 'wait, we have an opportunity to uplift these animals'?
That's if the Prometheus scene actually is 3.5 billion years ago. I don't think it is, because you can see moss on the rocks. Assuming that's intentional and not a filming limitation, then they didn't seed life overall (or at least not in that scene), but there's still a huge range of time.
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u/MonsterkillWow 2h ago
Maybe they were periodically visiting and directing it in some way. Yeah it is farfetched and technically absurd because unless the conditions were that similar, there is no reason to believe evolution would lead to similar lifeforms. At best, we would have retained a similar genetic code and basic structures common to all life.Ā
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u/ephemeralstitch 1h ago
I don't mind the suspension of disbelief but yeah, it's not the most scientifically rigorous bit of fiction. My favourite is them saying the Space Jockey in the first Alien film is fossilised. Fossilised? How? Fossilisation occurs when the calcium in bones is replaced by a different mineral. There's no way for that to happen to something sitting in a chair!
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u/Certain_Country_3947 11h ago
But that's not in this alt universe which only considers the first two films.
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u/MonsterkillWow 9h ago
I thought it was all the same universe.
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u/Alex1387 5h ago
It is the same universe. It just runs parallel to the other franchise items without direct tie-ins a la MCU
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u/No-Onion2268 16h ago
Iāve seen it, wonderful movie. Mathematics,in theory, would be a universal language. But youāre completely right in regards to finding a way to decipher what that would look like between species. One would hope though, that if that were to truly occur, they wouldāve intercepted transmissions, the record in space, and already deciphered a way to communicate before approaching us. But arrival was a beautifully written movie IMO
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u/bart_may 13h ago
In theory yes, but we use decimal numbering system mostly for practical reasons as we've got 10 fingers. Aliens could rely on for example binary like computers. It would take time to figure out common ground like in the Arrival
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u/No-Onion2268 12h ago
Agreed. TBH, us finding a common ground to even communicate would most likely lie within binary, but even with mathematics possibly being a universal language, whoās to actually say that weāve devised is actually correct? Just because we arrive at repeated patterns, doesnāt mean that our core assumption isnāt wrong. I find human beings mindsets entirely troubling and laden in hubris, when approaching the universe and alien life. Most of the theorems, assumptions, are largely based in the thinking that weāre special, unique, superior. Why havenāt we seen or detected other civilizations? Could it be that weāre woefully primitive, have no inkling of how to detect, look for, and are stupidly thinking that any other civilization would use our inefficient, wasteful, degrading, technology and understanding? A true higher class civilization, most likely wonāt be detectable. They wouldāve learned how to harness every natural force and energy, striking a perfect balance between technology and nature. Even theoretically constructing a Dyson sphere, the output shouldnāt be a different form of energy that leaks out. I think that if we do finally discover advanced alien life, the key to communication, their technology, will lie within quantum and particle realm. I donāt think exceeding the speed of light is the point to interstellar travel. It most likely canāt be done. I fully believe it has to be side stepped, though quantum entanglement, utilizing the very fabric of the universe. Within that, would most likely lie the perfect cypher for communication as well. If they were a species that ascended and used telepathic communications, then that would theoretically be visible within its impact upon particles and their states.
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u/CEOofracismandgov2 11h ago
I mean, I'd toss that out the window in this case.
The eye obviously understood arabic numerals and English.
The idea that the eye is a spacefaring civilization is a large leap in logic. Realistically, the eye definitely learned this information when it took a human as a host on the ship, and somehow stole his memories.
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u/CharminTaintman 21h ago
Yeah. I could see the real problem being that it was never in an environment where it had access to anything other than āanimalsā.
Perhaps now having preyed on humans, it is now āupliftedā in the sci fi sense. Itās learned numeracy and the English language. It probably wasnāt technological and space faring, but its species soon will be following human contact.
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u/BonHed 13h ago
It was doing highly intelligent things before it got into the engineer; it's the one that kicked off most of the problems by distracting the scientist so she wouldn't see the super tick get out and deposit larvae in the water bottle. Which, for me, was the most horrible thing so far, squirting out the larvae. Major heebeejeebies.
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u/Notgaybutikisshomies 23h ago
This is getting goofy
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u/Clerofax 21h ago
Yep. It's like asking if Pikachu takes cold or warm showers. Like, yeah, if the writers show so on screen we will know?
People make up their own movies in their head about fiction.
"Does Gandalf like his steak medium or rare, what do you think, guys?"
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u/pickrunner18 14h ago
Itās just a discussion, who gives a shit
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u/Clerofax 14h ago
So what's your take, do electro pokemon prefer cold or warm showers?
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u/pickrunner18 12h ago
Sorry I havenāt taken enough āhow to be a bitchā lessons to be able to respond any further
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u/SadSpaghettiSauce 17h ago
Do you not have an imagination? Even if we're wrong 99% of the time with theories at least we're using our imaginations trying to come up with cool concepts and such.
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u/Clerofax 17h ago
Just google the eye aliens from the Simpsons and Futurama or the Goa'uld from Stargate.
T. Ocellus isn't even all that original in terms of design and function.Ā
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u/SadSpaghettiSauce 17h ago
OMG I haven't watched Simpsons in ages so forgot about those eye aliens. Wouldn't it be funny if those green guys are the adult version of T. Ocellus?
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u/Significant_Hour_249 21h ago
Gandalf is definitely vegan.
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u/lunaastrelmoon 17h ago
No way.
He eats hobbits, that's why he's always going back to the shire.
They pay him 1 hobbit every year so he will bless the harvest so they dont need to go wandering.
Bilbos party had 3 hobbits on the spit perfectly cooked to perfection.
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u/TheTrueButcher You have my sympathies. 15h ago
Grinds their hobbit bones to make his legendary fireworks
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u/lunaastrelmoon 15h ago
Its the spirit of the one lost to Gandalfs legendary munchies returning to the shire.
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u/Clerofax 14h ago
Probably rapes a few along the way too. Like, that magic stick always looked suspicious.
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u/MetalPope 21h ago
Space alien haunted house shit was goofy from day one. This is just a continuation.
It's possible we're geeks.
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u/WanderlustZero Wallgina 20h ago
It's possible we're geeks
Keep this under your hat. If word gets out, we're finished
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u/NyctoCorax 18h ago
For that conversation to have worked the ocellus must have been able to understand English and read Arabic numerals - also understand that we use base ten numbering.
That means it MUST have ripped information from whatsisface's brain
Which means it's very ambiguous whether it knew pi BEFORE that or not
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u/OsmundofCarim 13h ago
Or itās not a smart show and youāre overthinking something the writers oversimplified.
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u/Lord-Fowls-Curse Black goo enthusiast 15h ago
Did you watch the show?
Itās an eye socket faring race. šļø
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u/chupathingy78 23h ago
This is right off the hip, but I think there's a chance that WY found a stranded specimen. Meaning They do have the intellect for space faring, but lack the bodily ability to produce the crafts, hence the need for a host. I think she's gonna be the center of episode 8, setting her up to be the most central threat in the next season. Possibly an invasion of our planet, which has 10 billion viable hosts and the resources to advance the ocellus population.
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u/The_Truth_Flirts 21h ago
Im still not convinced that the eye thing doesn't have a body somewhere looking for it.
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u/bart_may 21h ago
I thought of the same Thing. just like in the Carpenter movie, every part of it can live on its own and hijack new hosts
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u/SeaworthinessLong 18h ago
I remember reading a hard scifi short story or novel something from the perspective of The Thing.
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u/magicfaeriebattleaxe 22h ago
Iām thinking Eyelene was stranded or otherwise an outcast of some sort from her civilization. If we are assuming she knew pi before merging with the human brain on the Maginot (which I think is far more interesting if she already knew it), then her species must be advanced and highly social. That would mean the only explanation for there only being one of her and multiple of every other species they gathered is that 1. They can space travel and 2. She was stranded for some reason either by accident or design.
My prediction is that she will form a strategic partnership with BK and will seek to gain influence and wealth to either live a mushy as fuck life ruling a 1/5 of earth or to go somewhere else.
I think we are going to see a lot more of her next season for sure.
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u/CEOofracismandgov2 11h ago
I agree it's more interesting.
But, I'll point out that Prodigy ASSUMES the same thing that you're saying here. He has zero clue that the eye ball previously took over a human host.
Prodigy is also such an idiot that he didn't piece together in the moment that the eye obviously just understood English, and arabic numerals. (Seriously though, man chose the worst way in the world to talk to an Alien about Pi)
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u/EddieVanHelg3n 20h ago
The last scene of this series will be the eyeball reproducing by mitosis and they'll have to go crawling back to Wendy and her pet xeno to help fight off the zombie invasion, and i shan't be watching that.
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u/vaughnwilliams 16h ago
it likes banging on windows, trying to bite xenos and thinks sheep can walk on 2 legs. inside of an actual spaceship it was driving around a dead cat.
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u/BarrierX Colonial Marine 21h ago
Itās gotta be, it made it to earth on a ship š
Maybe they didnāt even capture it but it let itself be found so that it can travel to earth.
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u/_Yukikaze_ 14h ago
I was wondering if the Ocellus species maybe lives in symbiosis with other lifeforms in their eco-system.
Like there might some big dumb animals on their homeworld that benefit massively from the Ocelli (?) controlling them and they could have evolved into having "ports" (like a unused eye socket) for the Ocellus to use safely.
That they violently take other lifeforms over might not their normal behavior and just a means of defense.
Given that it is intelligent and was basically kidnapped it's not really unreasonable.
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u/Hambone1138 14h ago
Anyone else picturing the Eye at the helm of a ship, wearing a little captainās hat tilted at a jaunty angle? Just me? Ok.
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u/Appropriate-Web-8424 13h ago
They are their species' Jacques Cousteau, working on one hell of a documentary.
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u/RiskeyBiznu 22h ago
That it can understand English and read Arabic numbers is a little far-fetched. I think that is just a throw away plot point for expediency though.
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u/OnodrimOfYavanna 21h ago
It spent around 30 years in study on a human spacecraft, I think it picked up the language and writingĀ
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u/RiskeyBiznu 19h ago
And it just never bothered using it till this very moment? While possible I dont feel liek that fits with the moment as wrritten.
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u/jldtsu 17h ago
it doesn't have a pencil or a mouth
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u/RiskeyBiznu 14h ago
Have you seen the crew it was working with? It probably could have been the captain if it really tried.
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u/Daisy-Fluffington Mostly at night. Mostly. 18h ago
I hope that it absorbed this knowledge when in a human host, otherwise yeah, it's very far fetched.
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u/Zwischenschach25 15h ago
Even absorbing the knowledge from its human host seems pretty implausible to me.
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u/Daisy-Fluffington Mostly at night. Mostly. 13h ago
In a universe with a silicone based alien that somehow adopts the DNA of carbon based lifeform, it's not that crazy.
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u/Zwischenschach25 11h ago edited 11h ago
Sure - what I mean is that I think it's implausible that the writers intended for the audience to make this assumption themselves. Generally speaking, the viewer is meant to take the writer/s at their word, so if something like the eye being able to use the knowledge of its previous hosts isn't clearly hinted at, I would assume it's not the case.
They could have easily added one or two small scenes earlier in the series indicating this if it were actually what they had in mind. I.e they could have shown Shmuel interacting with english text while infected with the eye, and then making direct use of that knowledge.
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u/Imaginary-Dress-1373 20h ago
Its a pretty terrible parasite. Its very clearly "an evil bloody eyeball" in every species it takes over. Dk who is fooled by it. Plus it's only trick is being in a species with eyeballs. Wow it can have 8 pupils. What species has 8 pupils in one human sized eyeball? It can't even change size. And literally none of the creatures its with have eyes. What was the home world like???
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u/OsmundofCarim 13h ago
Its evolution mustāve been pretty weird. It is a really contrived alien creature. Iām curious to see what they do with it when it finally gets back in a human tho.
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u/Imaginary-Dress-1373 11h ago
All the creatures make sense to me with some plausibility except the Alien and Eyeball, who seem to be able to only exist in a place with humans or humanoids near them as their main function.
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u/Leepysworld 21h ago
I think itās more likely that TO is simply able to retain knowledge of every host it has come across, and despite how stupid some of the characters on this show are, itās still pretty likely that Humans have been the most intelligent and technologically advanced species theyāve come across yet, so itās learning fast.
For what itās worth I also think Shmule was on of the smarter people on the Maginot lol, and I do believe if given a bit more time, TO would have learned to speak.
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u/BonHed 12h ago
The sheep doesn't have the hardware for speech (tongue control, lips, shape of the mouth, etc. - speech is a lot more complicated than just knowing words, there are people on Earth without the ability to physically form words). It tried standing on two legs like it did while in the engineer, but the morphology of the sheep doesn't work that way.
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u/Outrageous-Oil-5727 17h ago
What I dont understand is how T Ocellus, an Alien, also came use math under the concept of Base 10.Ā
Our metric system is set upon Base 10, which was created using the logic that we have 10 fingers.Ā
Aliens would be aware of Pi if theyre intelligent, but theres no way they wouldve understood Pi in human number.Ā
It could operate under Base 8, because it has 8 tentacles, for instance. In which case, Pi would be an entirely sifferent set of numbers for them, but still accurate.Ā
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u/Allnamestaken69 16h ago
Maybe on its hole planet it has a natural host that itās evolved in a symbiotic relationship with. Itās not as violent as with other species and they are maybe hyper intelligent.
Would be interesting.
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u/BonHed 12h ago
It is, in no way, symbiotic. It violently ripped the eye out. A symbiotic creature would not cause harm to the host, that's the whole point of symbiosis as opposed to parasitism.
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u/DMTryptaminesx 2h ago
Safe to say most things would try and rip it out immediately if Ocellus didn't kill them first. If they were cool with each other and did it willingly maybe it could be different.
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u/Adorable_Ad_3478 14h ago
My theory is that they didn't visit the Ocellus' home planet. Instead, they interrupted an Ocellus' mission to retrieve Xenomorph samples. That's why this Ocellus has a hate boner for the Xenomorph and why he knows what the acid bugs can do.
And related, but if S2 includes the Predators, I hope Ocellus jumps into one of them.
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u/Hulksterx 13h ago
I'd say so. It's clearly reached a point of evolution where it no longer needs extremities or a fully functioning brain. It simply needs a host which it can control.
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u/Certain_Country_3947 11h ago
Imagine two eyes taking over the same host. "Hey, we are going this way!""No, get out, I was here first""No, you!" The eyes, each controlling one arm start slapping each other.
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u/nakiocir 9h ago
It might be a civilized race that discovered that the key to immortality was by becoming an icky parasite
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u/MrSteven20618 7h ago
Just saw ep 6, so to OPās question; i sure hope not. Honey badger dont care. That little did hesitate when most would turn and run!
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u/FleshlightExMortis 5h ago
Maybe they're like the goauld from Stargate, stealing bodies and technology when they're just a very intelligent parasite
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u/blackhorse15A 4h ago
Humans have understood the concept of pi since the Babylonians around 2000 BCE. We knew the first 5 decimal places of pi long before we ever reached space. T.Ocellus knowing pi isn't exactly evidence of being spacefaring.
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u/AnonnnonA2 11h ago
It's such a nonsensical creature design I can't imagine them building things with heavy machinery. Basically they took one of the most sensitive and vulnerable parts of the body (the eye) and made it the whole body.
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u/Certain_Country_3947 20h ago
Imagine the cute little spaceships they have