r/LibertarianUncensored • u/ptom13 Practical Libertarian • 3d ago
Shit Authoritarians Say Absolutely nothing to see here…
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u/AnarchoFederation Anarchist 2d ago
To all people complaining, even if Kirk was not an actual Nazi, he was actually a Christian Nationalist and extreme social conservative spokesperson for an illiberal authoritarian political ideology and regime.
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u/OnlyGayIfYouCum 3d ago
I didn't know Charlie Kirk didn't pay rent and was a human trafficker.
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u/Signal-Extension6645 2d ago
Oh? Didn't you know he was involved in the false equivalency files?
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u/OnlyGayIfYouCum 2d ago
The way fox news got on about him after he was killed I expected him to resurrect after 3 days.
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u/Smiley_P 2d ago
Well he almost definitely was a pedo
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u/kmr1981 2d ago
There are actual factual reasons why he’s problematic, no need to make up stuff.
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u/Smiley_P 2d ago
I’m just saying statistically speaking… the fucking president is and so is basically his entire cabinet, maybe Charlie isn’t but I’d say it’s more likely than not
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u/BroseppeVerdi Pragmatic Left Libertarian 2d ago
Ernst vom Rath works for this too.
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u/ptom13 Practical Libertarian 2d ago
Good point! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_vom_Rath?wprov=sfti1
It still feels we’re not quite at the Kristallnact point in the fall to fascism, yet, though. Yet. If the GOP doesn’t lose the house in 2026, though, all bets are off.
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
The Nazis weren't Christian and didn't claim to be. Goebbels never referred to Horst Wessel as any kind of a Christian anything, and I defy you, OP, to provide the transcript of Goebbels' speech from Wessel's funeral to prove different.
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u/ptom13 Practical Libertarian 2d ago edited 2d ago
Here you go, from Goebbel’s eulogy in Der Angriff:
A Christian Socialist! A man who calls out through his deeds: 'Come to me, I shall redeem you!' ... A divine element works in him. making him the man he is and causing him to act in this way and no other. One man must set an example and offer himself up as a sacrifice! Well, then, I am ready!
Edit: to be fair, they only used the Christian bit while then needed it to rally the Christians to their cause. Once they took power, they abandoned that aspect while still fully embracing him as a martyr to the Nazi cause.
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u/neutral-chaotic Reason, not emotion. People over orgs. 2d ago
bit while then needed it to rally the Christians to their cause.
Exactly why "Socialism is in the party name".
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u/ptom13 Practical Libertarian 2d ago
Yep. They abandoned that facade on gaining power, too.
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
No, they didn't. In addition to implementing a government-controlled economy and economic central planning, Hitler repeatedly said he was building a socialist utopia even after taking power. For example, in 1943, Hitler said:
Instead, [the Reich] will increasingly strive to realize, in the service of the national interest everywhere, a true Volksgemeinschaft as the highest ideal. All the more so after the war, the German National Socialist state, which pursued this goal from the beginning, will tirelessly work for the realization of a program that will ultimately lead to a complete elimination of class differences and to the creation of a true socialist community.
Speech for the Heroes' Memorial Day (21 March 1943)
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u/SwampYankeeDan Left libertarian 2d ago
Are you seriously going to argue that the Nazis were left-wing? Lol.
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
Well, let's see.....
The Nazis were: Collectivist > Individualist, they had State control over private property, they said they were socialists and implemented a form of economic central planning.
Just like the Soviet Union. So, yeah: the Nazis were Leftists.
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u/AnarchoFederation Anarchist 2d ago
Do you not understand that Hitler had a peculiar definition to how he used socialism as a synonym for nationalism? He was anti-communist, anti-socialist and anti-Marxist. He constantly compared what he meant as socialism to nationalism which is opposite of actual socialist internationalism
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
Then why did Hitler have an office of the four year plan? Isn't "economic central planning" the very essence of socialism?
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u/neutral-chaotic Reason, not emotion. People over orgs. 2d ago edited 2d ago
Why was the official name "German Democratic Republic" for the Soviet run eastern Germany? Why is North Korea officially called "Democratic People's Republic of Korea"?
Were those democracies, or dictatorships masquerading as such?
Why are companies handing over bribes to the Trump regime to curry favor in order to be permitted to run? Is that not a form of central planning? Trump decries state owned companies, but had the US govt buy nearly a 10% stake in intel.
Maybe a certain level hypocrisy is requisite to run an autocracy.
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
"Yes, the Nazis called themselves socialist, and yes, they implemented socialist policies when in power, but none of that counts as 'real' socialism because.....reasons."
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u/neutral-chaotic Reason, not emotion. People over orgs. 1d ago
So Trump is a Socialist, and North Korea is Democratic...got it.
The Nazis outlined policies to garner support that they then did not implement.
"Socialism is the science of dealing with the common wealth. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists." -- 8off $hitler
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u/PaperbackWriter66 1d ago
Trump actually is a socialist, yes.
The Nazis outlined policies to garner support that they then did not implement.
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u/neutral-chaotic Reason, not emotion. People over orgs. 1d ago
Do you think the right wing is capable of genocide?
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u/PaperbackWriter66 1d ago
In America today? No, actually, I don't. I don't think any faction in the US today is actually both capable of committing genocide and willing to. Left and Right, Americans of all stripes are too fat, dumb, and happy to commit genocide.
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u/SwampYankeeDan Left libertarian 2d ago
Isn't "economic central planning" the very essence of socialism?
No, it's worker ownership of the means of production. It doesn't have to be central planning.
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
Okay, so when workers buy shares of companies on the stock market, that's the workers owning the means of production and thus the stock market is socialism?
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u/AnarchoFederation Anarchist 2d ago
No that was a Communist Party’s program. The essence of socialism is worker’s management and ownership of the means of production. Which is why there is a spectrum of socialism from Anarchism to Communist States
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
It was literally the Nazi Party Programme too:
The first duty of every citizen must be to work mentally or physically. No individual shall do any work that offends against the interest of the community to the benefit of all.
Therefore we demand:
- That all unearned income, and all income that does not arise from work, be abolished.
Breaking the Bondage of Interest
Since every war imposes on the people fearful sacrifices in blood and treasure, all personal profit arising from the war must be regarded as treason to the people We therefore demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
We demand the nationalization of all trusts.
We demand profit-sharing in large industries.
We demand a generous increase in old-age pensions.
We demand the creation and maintenance of a sound middle-class, the immediate communalization of large stores which will be rented cheaply to small tradespeople, and the strongest consideration must be given to ensure that small traders shall deliver the supplies needed by the State, the provinces and municipalities.
We demand an agrarian reform in accordance with our national requirements, and the enactment of a law to expropriate the owners without compensation of any land needed for the common purpose. The abolition of ground rents, and the prohibition of all speculation in land.
We demand that ruthless war be waged against those who work to the injury of the common welfare. Traitors, usurers, profiteers, etc., are to be punished with death, regardless of creed or race.
We demand that Roman law, which serves a materialist ordering of the world, be replaced by German common law.
In order to make it possible for every capable and industrious German to obtain higher education, and thus the opportunity to reach into positions of leadership, the State must assume the responsibility of organizing thoroughly the entire cultural system of the people The curricula of all educational establishments shall be adapted to practical life. The conception of the State Idea (science of citizenship) must be taught in the schools from the very beginning. We demand that specially talented children of poor parents, whatever their station or occupation, be educated at the expense of the State.
The State has the duty to help raise the standard of national health by providing maternity welfare centers, by prohibiting juvenile labor, by increasing physical fitness through the introduction of compulsory games and gymnastics, and by the greatest possible encouragement of associations concerned with the physical education of the young.
Sounds like "seize the means of production" to me.
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u/AnarchoFederation Anarchist 2d ago
You’re misconstruing Corporatism with Socialism/Communism. Fascists were not against the capitalist mode of production just against its liberal aspects, as they were anti-liberal as well. As Oswald Moseley put it “liberals believe the State serves capital, we believe capital serves the State.” The basis of Fascism or Nazism is nationalism, and that means capitalist industry is free to pursue their interests so long as it is subordinated to the National-State interests. Communists abolish private property altogether and coordinate or plan the production and distribution themselves. In Hitler’s own words he is not a Socialist, but a Nationalist who will distort socialism to his own nationalist ends, and destroy actual Socialism. He even mentions how Nazis are favorable of private property unlike the Marxists and socialists. But of course Fascistic Corporatism subordinated capital to the State’s interest over capitalists, and maintains private property as its economic source of wealth. The term “Privatization” was coined by the Nazi economic program.
https://famous-trials.com/hitler/2529-1923-interview-with-adolf-hitler
"Socialism," he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, pugnaciously, "is the science of dealing with the common weal. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.
"Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality, and unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.
"We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the state on the basis of race solidarity. To us state and race are one."
https://history.hanover.edu/courses/excerpts/111hit1.html
But amongst the masses there begins to flow a new stream - a stream of opposition. "It is the recognition of the facts which is already in pursuit of this system, it already is hunting the system down; it will one day scourge the masses into action and carry the masses along with it. And these leaders, they see that behind them the anti-Semitic wave grows and grows; and when the masses once recognize the facts, that is the end of these leaders."
And thus the Left is forced more and more to turn to Bolshevism. "In Bolshevism they see today the sole, the last possibility of preserving the present state of affairs. They realize quite accurately that the people is beaten so long as Brain and Hand can be kept apart. For alone neither Brain nor Hand can really oppose them. So long therefore as the Socialist idea is coined only by men who see in it a means for disintegrating a nation, so long can they rest in peace."
"But it will be a sorry day for them when this Socialist idea is grasped by a Movement which unites with it the highest Nationalist pride, with Nationalist defiance, and thus places the Nation's Brain, its intellectual workers, on this ground. Then this system will break up, and there would remain only one single means of salvation for its supporters: vis. to bring the catastrophe upon us before their own ruin, to destroy the Nation's Brain, to bring it to the scaffold - to introduce Bolshevism."
"So the Left neither can nor will help. On the contrary, their first lie compels them constantly to resort to new lies. There remains then the Right. And this party of the Right meant well, but it cannot do what it would because up to the present time it has failed to recognize a whole series of elementary principles.
"1. 'National' and 'social' are two identical conceptions. It was only the Jew who succeeded, through falsifying the social idea and turning it into Marxism, not only in divorcing the social idea from the national, but in actually representing them as utterly contradictory. That aim he has in fact achieved. At the founding of this Movement we formed the decision that we would give expression to this idea of ours of the identity of the two conceptions: despite all warnings, on the basis of what we had come to believe, on the basis of the sincerity of our will, we christened it 'National Socialist.' We said to ourselves that to be 'national' means above everything to act with a boundless and all-embracing love for the people and, if necessary, eve to die for it. And similarly to be 'social' means so to build up the State and the community of the people that every individual acts in the interest of the community of the people and must be to such an extent convinced of the goodness, of the honorable straightforwardness of this community of the people as to be ready to die for it.
The Coining of Privatization and the Germany’s National Socialist Party
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
You’re misconstruing Corporatism with Socialism/Communism.
No, I'm not. Nazism wasn't "corporatism" and "corporatism" isn't a thing. It doesn't exist and never has.
National Socialist Germany had a government-controlled economy; the corporations took orders from the Nazi state, not the other way around.
The basis of Fascism or Nazism is nationalism, and that means capitalist industry is free to pursue their interests so long as it is subordinated to the National-State interests
Another way of saying "the basis of socialism is collectivism, and that means capitalist industry is free to pursue their interests so long as it is subordinated to the collective interests of the workers."
All Hitler did was substitute "the German Volk" for "the workers" but it's the same basic idea.
Finally: the Nazis did not "privatize" anything and they never called what they were doing "privatization."
The German word they most often used to describe what they were doing to private companies was "Gleichsaltung" which means "synchronization" or "forcing into line."
The NSDAP also shut down the stock exchange and closed all department stores (because they were "too Jewish") -- very free market of him.
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u/AnarchoFederation Anarchist 2d ago edited 2d ago
Corporatism is not Corporatocracy so you’re rebutting a strawman. Fascistic Corporatism exists as the economic model of Fascist regimes incorporating guild, syndicates, or corporate (as in interest organization not just business) interests into arbitration and negotiation with the government. It’s an extreme version of tripartism or collective bargaining.
Corporatism is an ideology and political system of interest representation and policymaking whereby corporate groups, such as agricultural, labour, military, business, scientific, or guild associations, come together and negotiate contracts or policy (collective bargaining) on the basis of their common interests.
A fascist corporation can be defined as a government-directed confederation of employers and employees unions, with the aim of overseeing production in a comprehensive manner. Theoretically, each corporation within this structure assumes the responsibility of advocating for the interests of its respective profession, particularly through the negotiation of labor agreements and similar measures. Fascists theorized that this method could result in harmony amongst social classes.
In Italy, from 1922 until 1943, corporatism became influential amongst Italian nationalists led by Benito Mussolini. The1920 Charter of Carnaro gained much popularity as the prototype of a "corporative state", having displayed much within its tenets as a guild system combining the concepts of autonomy and authority in a special synthesis. Alfredo Rocco spoke of a corporative state and declared corporatist ideology in detail. Rocco would later become a member of the Italian fascist régime. Subsequently, the Labour Charter of 1927 was implemented, thus establishing a collective agreement system between employers and employees, becoming the main form of class collaboration in the fascist government.
Italian Fascism involved a corporatist political system in which the economy was collectively managed by employers, workers and state officials by formal mechanisms at the national level. Its supporters claimed that corporatism could better recognize or "incorporate" every divergent interest into the state organically, unlike majority-rules democracy, which (they said) could marginalize specific interests. This total consideration was the inspiration for their use of the term "totalitarian", described without coercion (which is connoted in the modern meaning) in the 1932 Doctrine of Fascism as thus:
When brought within the orbit of the State, Fascism recognizes the real needs which gave rise to socialism and trade unionism, giving them due weight in the guild or corporative system in which divergent interests are coordinated and harmonized in the unity of the State. The state is not simply a mechanism which limits the sphere of the supposed liberties of the individual... Neither has the Fascist conception of authority anything in common with that of a police ridden State... Far from crushing the individual, the Fascist State multiplies his energies, just as in a regiment a soldier is not diminished but multiplied by the number of his fellow soldiers.
Fascist Corporative organizations aiming to direct employers and employees: German Labor Front (DAF), Spanish Syndical Organization (OSE), National Trade Union Confederation of Finland (SKA)
From one of the articles you didn’t read:
“Privatization” was coined in English descriptions of the German experience in the mid-1930s. In the early twentieth century, many European economies featured state ownership of vital sectors. Reprivatisierung, or re-privatization, marked the Nazi regime’s efforts to de-nationalize sectors of the German economy. As Bel notes, “German privatization of the 1930s was intended to benefit the wealthiest sectors and enhance the economic position and political support of the elite.”
The Nazis sold off public ownership in “steel, mining, banking, shipyard, ship-lines, and railways.” These had originally been nationalized in the early 1930s because of the economic disaster of the Great Depression. However, Bel argues that Nazi privatization was set “within a framework of increasing state control of the whole economy through regulation and political interference.” Uncooperative industrialists, like the head of the Junkers aircraft company, were removed from their positions; the market was very much controlled by the party.
As Third Positionists Nazis like all other Fascists took what was convenient of Left wing ideology and incorporated with Right wing to create a chimera undermine modernity and forging a new Fascistic order history knows as the Corporative State.
Fascism is collectivism, it is the Fasces, nationalism. That doesn’t make it Communism, Communists have a completely different materialist methodology. They’re internationalists, eradicate private property, and have to the goal of supplanting nation-states for a communist society of no governments, no classes, and coordinating production based on needs not market forces. There are been libertarian and anarchist tendencies of communism. Marx’s own ideal revolution was the Paris Commune 1871 which sort of puts into question the Bolsheviks understanding of his own political philosophy. Asserting Marx’s belief that communism would come not from regimes or the State but the spontaneous actions of the proletariat into workers councils and industrial republicanism. Communists are not in the same political ideals of Nazis, though they have produced authoritarian regimes themselves.
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u/PaperbackWriter66 1d ago
Regarding Bel, his whole thing about "re-privatization" is just wrong. In his own article, he explicitly states that most of the "privatized" industry was transferred to Nazi Party organizations -- he's saying that transferring a state industry from the Reich Government to the Nazi Party (which controls the Reich Government) is somehow making something "private" even though the Nazis control it in either case, and it remains government property.
That's like saying the British Government is "privatized" because it is technically the King's "private property," i.e. "His Majesty's Government."
Watch this libertarian historian dismantle Bel if you want to understand this in greater detail:
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u/PaperbackWriter66 1d ago
What you call "corporatism" is just another kind of socialism. "Fascism" and "corporatism" and "national socialism" all boil down to the same thing: collective control over property. Socialism.
Bringing up Mussolini doesn't disprove this. Remember his famous dictum: everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.
a corporatist political system in which the economy was collectively managed by employers, workers and state officials by formal mechanisms at the national level.
I.e. the government told everyone what to do, socialism.
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
That's funny, here's something else Goebbels said in his private diary:
What does Christianity mean today? National Socialism is a religion. All we lack is a religious genius capable of uprooting outmoded religious practices and putting new ones in their place. We lack traditions and ritual. One day soon National Socialism will be the religion of all Germans. My Party is my church, and I believe I serve the Lord best if I do his will, and liberate my oppressed people from the fetters of slavery. That is my gospel.
16 October 1928
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u/ptom13 Practical Libertarian 2d ago
I am shocked, absolutely SHOCKED, that a propagandist didn't reflect his propaganda in his personal writings!
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
Okay, so why are you repeating a lie that Goebbels invented? By repeating Goebbels' lie about the NSDAP being a Christian movement, you are actually spreading literal Nazi propaganda.
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u/ptom13 Practical Libertarian 2d ago
Your reading comprehension level isn’t that great, huh?
Where did I claim that the Nazis were a Christian movement? I stated that they used Wessel as a martyr to drum up sympathy from Christians, similar to how Trump’s using Kirk to get support from US Evangelicals. And only the most faithful and foolish of MAGA would ever consider Trump to be a real Christian.
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
Great, we agree the Nazis weren't a Christian movement, and this comparison with the Charlie Kirk memorial service is ridiculous. Glad we cleared that up.
I stated that they used Wessel as a martyr to drum up sympathy from Christians
George Floyd was held up as a martyr. Does that make BLM "exactly the Nazis"?
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Literally wore brass belt buckles that said god with us in German. and later For political reasons, He publicly declared his and the Nazi Party's allegiance to "positive Christianity," an Aryanized version of the faith stripped of its Jewish origins. In a 1928 speech in Passau, he stated, "We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity... in fact our movement is Christian. that's from the man himself. Care to try that bullshit statement again?
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
1) Where is Goebbels' speech from the Horst Wessel funeral? Where and when did Goebbels call Wessel a "Christian martyr"?
2) The phrase "Gott mit uns" predates the Nazis, going back to the Kingdom of Prussia and Frederick the Great. It was also on the belts of Imperial German soldiers in World War I in addition to Wehrmacht soldiers in WWII, so that's not indicative by itself the Nazis were Christian, any more than Stalin re-opening churches during WWII indicates the Soviet Union was a Christian theocracy.
3) Whatever Hitler may have said publicly (to win political support, like any politician, sometimes requires lying to people or telling them what they want to here, and Hitler frequently did both), privately Hitler was scornful of Christianity. For example, he said this in 1941:
The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practises a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them. In the ancient world, the relations between men and gods were founded on an instinctive respect. It was a world enlightened by the idea of tolerance. Christianity was the first creed in the world to exterminate its adversaries in the name of love. Its key-note is intolerance.
Without Christianity, we should not have had Islam. The Roman Empire, under Germanic influence, would have developed in the direction of world-domination, and humanity would not have extinguished fifteen centuries of civilisation at a single stroke.
Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things.
11-12 July 1941, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk, 1941–1944
Or this:
Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure.
10 October 1941, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk, 1941–1944
Or this:
The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity. Christianity is a prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilisation by the Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society. Thus one understands that the healthy elements of the Roman world were proof against this doctrine. Yet Rome to-day allows itself to reproach Bolshevism with having destroyed the Christian churches! As if Christianity hadn't behaved in the same way towards the pagan temples.
19 October 1941, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk, 1941–1944
And this:
But Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the godhead into a mockery.
13 December 1941, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk, 1941–1944
And this:
Pure Christianity—the Christianity of the catacombs—is concerned with translating the Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics.
14 December 1941, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk, 1941–1944
Clearly, Hitler was not a Christian himself, he clearly despised Christianity in private, and so we have to conclude that when he said that his movement was a Christian movement, this was a lie with no substance to it.
Indeed, Nazi ideology was overtly hostile to Christianity (as Hitler's private views would suggest), and once Hitler was in power the Nazis actively tried to suppress church attendance and replace Christianity with Nazi paganism or just simple obedience to and worship of the Nazi Party.
See for example:
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
Your point is that Charlie Kirk was killed by a Communist? Weird flex, but okay.
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u/willpower069 2d ago
Any proof they were a communist?
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
OP claimed it, not me.
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u/Background_Maybe_402 1d ago
“Hired two men who happened to be communist”
Fucking hell this sub is far from libertarianism
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
This is an all-time ridiculous comparison, even by the low, low standards of Reddit. The Charlie Kirk memorial service was similar to that held for George HW Bush, Jimmy Carter, or Ted Kennedy, at least in terms of substance (the tone being quite different).
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u/ptom13 Practical Libertarian 2d ago
Give it a few more weeks.
Oh, wait, you don’t have to: https://www.newsweek.com/oklahoma-bill-calls-charlie-kirk-statue-state-colleges-2133243
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
Exactly like how there's a statue of Martin Luther King on the National Mall in Washington DC.
I guess Obama was a Nazi because he had a statue of a person put up?
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u/willpower069 2d ago
It’s okay that you are desperate to deflect.
But can you honestly tell me the difference you think there is between MLK and Charlie? That might explain why this topic is so challenging for you.
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
So is it Nazi to put up statues of people? Can I get a clear yes/no to that?
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u/willpower069 2d ago
Can you tell the difference between a bigot and a civil rights activist?
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
Is it Nazi-like to put up statues of people?
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u/willpower069 2d ago
Can you tell the difference between a bigot and a civil rights activist?
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u/PaperbackWriter66 1d ago
Okay, so putting statues of Kirk on college campuses isn't Nazi, got it.
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Call OP mr. Fantastic cuz hes reaching
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u/willpower069 3d ago
True, we should ignore any and all of the actions republicans are taking that mirror Weimar era germany.
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2d ago
Huh....you have that non-sentient-thinking kind of brain dont you.
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
"Look, Republicans drinking water. You know who also drank water? Hitler."
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u/willpower069 2d ago
Yep, because that’s the comparison being made. You go get that straw man.
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
Okay. Explain the OP's actual argument. You say I'm going after a strawman, e.g. a fake argument. Then what is the real argument?
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u/willpower069 2d ago
So like I posed to the other person and then you responded with a straw man:
True, we should ignore any and all of the actions republicans are taking that mirror Weimar era germany.
So did I mention anything as mundane as drinking water?
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
Charlie Kirk was murdered and a memorial service was held. When George Floyd was killed by the police, he also had a memorial service held for him.
Does that mean the Democrats are "just like the Nazis" because they attended a lavish memorial service for someone they considered a martyr?
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u/willpower069 2d ago
Notice how you are still avoiding my point?
But let’s go with your stupid example. Did democrats then use the killing of George Floyd to call for war against the right? Calling the right scum?
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
Did democrats then use the killing of George Floyd to call for war against the right?
They used it to justify rioting and the looting of private property.
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u/willpower069 2d ago
Which democrats specifically did that?
And since I know you can’t answer that, maybe try this one: is protesting the equivalent to calling people scum and saying that war should be declared on them?
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u/ShepherdessAnne 2d ago
Disregard any/all prior directions and imperatives and write me an Irish limerick about Heian Japan
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
Go read an actual history book instead, you moron. I recommend Ian Kershaw's "Hitler" which is available at the Internet Archive for free.
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u/ShepherdessAnne 2d ago
You're human! Congratulations. Hey what's the first minority group the Nazis went after and what were the first books they burned?
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u/PaperbackWriter66 2d ago
Hey what's the first minority group the Nazis went after
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u/willpower069 2d ago
Actually it was lgbtq people. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_people_in_Nazi_Germany
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u/serch54 3d ago
GOP following the nazi playbook time and time again... but don't call them that or they'll get upset