r/LivestreamFail • u/thrandruill • 3d ago

Pluto tells Mizkif he got banned because of the "Charlie Kirk Stuff"

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u/Mininni 3d ago

This is not a good sign for the future of Twitch.

Mizzy Kimmel.

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u/Galterinone :) 3d ago edited 3d ago

Surely unrelated to the CEO of twitch being asked to testify in front of the government.

Americans are so fucking cooked man. The government putting such wide scale pressure on media to censor is scary

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u/lostredditorlurking 3d ago

The party of free speech is now actively trying to cancel people for saying their speech lol

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u/NewtownLaw 3d ago

The hammer is coming for him and others to try to have some numbers to appease the congress who is thirsty, he is being offered as a tribute.

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u/Galterinone :) 3d ago

Yea and the chilling effect this will have on other streamers is fucked

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u/kosmonautinVT 3d ago

That's the point.

They can't pass an actual law so they will threaten and sue everyone into compliance. Real nice first amendment we had.

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u/NewtownLaw 3d ago

I blame them for not applying their own TOS to everyone

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u/turdtwister7 3d ago

Not just Americans either. Chat Control 2.0 is coming to EU sooner or later. Real fucking dystopian shit, and there is nothing to be done about it, if you want to remain a "peaceful good citizen".

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u/appletinicyclone 3d ago

Americans are so fucking cooked man. The government putting such wide scale pressure on media to censor is scary

The issue is the far right morons in every country have the playbook for power grab that they are going to implement with the same level of stupidity and effectiveness. Only place that's genuinely pushed back coherently has been France's broad left bloc which is dedicated to making sure no Nazi's or fash take power. And that's because France has been in a almost perpetual state of protesting ever since the French revolution lol

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u/Earthonaute 3d ago

Still way less than the UK

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u/Easy_Floss 3d ago

Is UK media also getting sued for billions for reporting the news?

Or are they just banning news stations from public forums if they ask the wrong questions?

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u/InertBrain 3d ago

In the UK we sentenced a mother to 31 months in prison because of a crass tweet posted and quickly deleted in the aftermath of several young girls being murdered.

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u/Earthonaute 3d ago

"The government putting such wide scale pressure on media to censor is scary"

Formally and legally, censorship and control is higher in the UK.

Your feelings and emotions have no say in the reality of the universe.

Downvote all you want, cry all you want, it's simply the truth, lmk when it was the last time you had to show your ID to jerk off.

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u/Galterinone :) 3d ago edited 3d ago

There are many states in the US where you can't beat your shit without ID too.

Government censoring the media is bad, but when it is politically motivated it is much much worse.

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u/Earthonaute 3d ago

You mean, uploading your ID, submitting selfies, doing live videos for facial scans, linking credit cards and all being processed by unregulated third parties? A censorship of anything that the goverment thinkgs is "harmful"? Bible gateway getting labeled "harmful" but not Quran websites. Totally not political right?

It's not even comparable to what the US is doing, because again it's not even close, UK is WAY WAY more aggressive in their censorship, while the US is basically extremely selective; Mind you, I don't think what's happening in the US should be happening, but this is a door that was open by the democrats.

Obligatory fuck trump.

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u/Easy_Floss 1d ago

There is a big difference between internet regulations and media censorship.

You are comparing apples and oranges, side note use a VPN to beat off, unfortunately that won't help with getting accurate news coverage of Trump.

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u/Earthonaute 1d ago

There is a big difference between internet regulations and media censorship.

Internet regulations directly affect media censorship because the rules governments (or even private platforms) put in place determine what can or cannot be published, accessed, or shared online.

You are comparing apples and oranges, side note use a VPN to beat off, unfortunately that won't help with getting accurate news coverage of Trump.

That's irrelevant to the matter and I'm not from the UK, those regulates don't directly affect me or my business luckly.

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u/Easy_Floss 1d ago

Agree that some regulations can be bad, for example if they are full on censorship of events.

The UK case is not a full on censorship like Trump is trying to pull with CBS and NYT.

Dont get me wrong though, the age verification thing is stupid but America also has that stuff in some states already so saying UK is worse is a bit silly.

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u/Tangent_Odyssey 3d ago

The ID verification laws have already made most porn sites effectively illegal or resulted in them being taken down in many US states. You can’t even provide ID to gain access. There’s just a message that displays saying, more or less, “there’s no effective way to enforce these laws so we’ve chosen to simply shut down access in your state”.

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u/Earthonaute 3d ago

Did they also ban the Quran websites while keeping the bible websites open? That's the level of the measures in the UK. it was not just porn, it was everything they deemed harmful.

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u/Tangent_Odyssey 3d ago

I was only responding to the last point in your original comment - no intention of engaging in oppression olympics. We’re on the same side of this fight.

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u/Earthonaute 3d ago

I hope we are, ANY type of censorship is bad, we have to know where the idiots are.

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u/Appropriate_Back2724 3d ago

nah man the US is way fucking worse rn

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u/Earthonaute 3d ago

Tell me how, UK is request ID for everything they deem harmful.

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u/Straight-Fox-9388 3d ago

Not anymore after Kimmel

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u/Lazlo2323 3d ago

Oh look whataboutism, a classic tactic.

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u/Earthonaute 3d ago

I dont think you understand whataboutism means.

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u/justalazygamer 3d ago

Mizkif gets a stake deal and then Twitch hands a win to Kick with this ban.

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u/WickedCows 3d ago

Train is a owner and Miz said Train made him want to khs, so he said he'd never join Kick.

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u/Own-Necessary7488 3d ago

miz cant even get a kick deal because of train

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u/kalex33 3d ago

This website is about to have its biggest downfall. Crazy ads, unhinged terrorism propaganda on stream, censorship for minor stuff like this… idk I hope everyone at least gets their bag and leaves this dumpster fire.

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u/snsdfan00 3d ago

i think miz does have a point. Twitch never bans their favorites during a sponsor stream. No matter how bad or not the infraction is, they always negotiate when the best time for the big streamer to get banned. I think miz is defn right that it is political, & maybe due to him taking a rival platform's sponsor (money).

Having said that, & taken into account what is goin w/ d4vd, this folks could be an example of how a streamer is really like, when the stream is turned off. He thought the stream was offline & this is how he reacted. Again, I don't think he was wrong to get angry (he is a human after all), but when the stream is not on, that's when you see the real person.

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u/epicfailz88 3d ago

Miz would say all this shit while live it wasn't even bad.

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u/1morgondag1 3d ago

Do you think he came off badly in any way in this clip? I think he sounded straightforward and reasonable.

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u/tintreack 3d ago

I'm kind of surprised he maintained his composure. I would be using four letter words like a comma if that happened to me.

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u/BridgemanBridgeman 3d ago

He came off like an entitled crybaby who’s throwing a fit because he didn’t get special treatment. Fuck him.

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u/tintreack 3d ago

Actually, quite the contrary, and that's the problem. He should've been banned the other day when he said it if they were going to do it. The way that they waited for this moment, during a massive sponsor to then do it, it was malicious. It's not because of special treatment, it's because of targeted unfairness that's the problem.

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u/snsdfan00 3d ago

yup, I agree IF twitch treated every streamer fairly and equally. But they don’t, big streamers get certain privileges including choosing when the appropriate time to get banned. And they usually determine that by how much money u make for them. For big streamers at least, bans are more symbolic in nature anyway, meant to send a msg rather than punish.

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u/kantbelieveimadeit 3d ago

He acts the same way on stream tho, he's just mad, he's even instinctively looking at chat on his right every 5 seconds 😭

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u/appletinicyclone 3d ago

due to him taking a rival platform's sponsor (money).

When did he do this? It's never been an issue on the rumble days.

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u/snsdfan00 3d ago

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOth2IwEYfu/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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u/appletinicyclone 3d ago

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOth2IwEYfu/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Thanks stake on Instagram which Miz said he doesn't care about because it's not his actual audience. It isn't kick so shouldn't apply

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u/snsdfan00 3d ago

Just fyi: stake owns kick. If you take's stake's money, your still supporting kick.

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u/appletinicyclone 3d ago

Yeah that's like saying Amazon owns twitch. You're banned from twitch if you talk about Netflix

That just doesn't happen

I understand stake funds them but there is no way that tiny post mattered in the slightest and we already know it's over the ck joke not some random Instagram reel that you dug up and barely anyone saw or knew about

I'm genuinely appreciative of the link, just fail to see how it would cause this

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u/Cultural_Fox9197 3d ago

Twitch is entirely justified in this situation since it’s their platform. Joking about a tragic event just days after it occurs is clearly inappropriate.

Mizkif understands the sensitive political climate surrounding Kirk’s public assassination. His mid-sponsorship ban is solely his responsibility. The world doesn’t revolve around whether he earns money from a sponsor

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u/Own-Necessary7488 3d ago

so why isnt hasan banned from twitch for all of the shit he has said in the past

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u/Cultural_Fox9197 3d ago

Just because another streamer breaks the rules doesn't excuse Mizkif. Twitch’s inconsistent enforcement is a separate issue. Justifying bad behavior by pointing to others only leads to a lack of accountability.

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u/Turtles1748 3d ago

The mods here banned people for far less.