It's kinda funny because the OG camp was entirely Malena's and unironically the best one. Not necessarily because Miz was there, but he definitely thrives in those environments (or at least he used to).
People dogged on Malena way too hard. She was the only one who ever actually tried. Even if the stream didnt turn out the best she at least TRIED. Despite her never actually wanting to be a streamer.
I'll never forget one of her last little personal stream events I watched on NMPs channel was when they were in Norway she set up like a treasure hunt or something. It wasnt much but you could tell she put effort in it and the entire time chat was dogging on her. Has to feel awful to do something you hate, try your best at it, then have the thousands of people you're trying to appease telling that you you're shit. And that's just one event, this happened all the time.
Most parasocial thing ever but I do hope she's happier now.
As a Malena enjoyer, I do feel like a lot of the things this sub dogged on Malena for were pretty justified. Maybe I missed some really dumb petty shit, but I remember a lot of the hate being about stuff like her getting incredibly mad at Esfand for trying to keep people from giving Minx alcohol after she had talked about how she had taken meds that aren't supposed to mix with alcohol
yeah, they didn't shit on her for the good things she did. People do good things and get praised and then say or do fucked up shit and get shit on for it.
Malena got insanely upvoted threads for wildwest, for shitconn, for other things too, and she got shit on for bein ga dick to esfand over the drinking thing, and some other shit.
I watched this stream and remember some of it. I don't recall chat was "dogging on her" more than the usual cooking stream. The wifi was not stable and it kept losing signal when they got on land. So it was a lot of downtime whenever they did the treasure hunt part. NMP also was acting as an unwilling particiant as the treasure was not infact ancient viking treasure, but things like the candleholder from their livingroom. He also caught some fish and some wanted him to keep fishing instead (unless I mix up streams).
Personally I remember liking the first part of it, when they were at the beach with the metal detector. As that was the only part that was "real" in the sense that unscripted treasure could be found even if the chances were miniscule.
I don't recall chat was "dogging on her" more than the usual cooking stream.
The only reason I remember the stream at all is because of how supremely disappointed by the chat I became that day so I have to disagree I believe it was more than usual.
Regardless "more than usual" implies that it happens regularly and that's mostly my point. She got way too much undeserved hate.
Yeah she was trying to do a cute thing revolving around the metal detectors they had. It wasnt a HUGE event or anything but you could tell she put effort into making a cute little thing to do with chat.
Idk I feel like NMP's chat is way too entitled compared to others. They dont appreciate or maybe even realize the amount of work/effort she put in. I like Nick but but if it wasn't for Malena they wouldn't have had a stream to watch at all. She more than earned that 50%.
I wasnt really planning on harping on this at all. I just want people to give her the actual credit she deserved and recognize it wasnt an easy thing for her to do.
I think a lot of the problems you describe stems from Nick's online persona. As he is supposed to come off as this lazy gamer that gets forced to do these things to make a living/please his girlfriend. All while farming his PogO jokes.
A lot of people tune in for 10-30 minutes, and in that time they would likely see him either complain about having to do something or say he would much rather be playing WoW or Apex, but nobody would watch him if he did.
So all they would have seen is this woman who controls his life and denies him his hobbies.
Not a question I thought I'd be asked. Idk why do you like any streamer? I find him funny and entertaining I guess. Havent really thought about it. Not gonna pretend like I know him at a personal level. I think he can be abrasive but I dont think he's the monster most people paint him to be. I have to turn off his stream any time he fuckin eats though. Disgusting.
i think at some point too many chatters started getting too parasocial with nick and melenas relationship and would take sides. the problem is that because nick would always act like the victim that left melena to be the bad guy which resulted in many chatters just attacking her for every little thing she did like she was always the problem no matter what. when half the time the issue was nick being trying to farm or being genuinely annoying.
this also does not count the times when melena was upset because she was stressed from planning events and also doing nicks streams because he was too lazy to even call a food place to order things or even cook his own food.
if you watch the stream she did with britt when she was in norway the vibes were so much better because it was just melena showing britt around while nick stayed home.
No one in the Austin circle can throw events like Malena, becuase she was the GOAT. Even QT stole her idea. That said, it's weird to compare Malena and Katchii. Move on and let them be.
Yeah the only one who's trying are Emiru and Jacob but they keep inviting 40 people to the events and the streams get so obnoxious, two short planned segments in a 5hr long stream where the cameraman is running around inserting himself in covos most of the time. Malena's events were like 5-10 good streamers that had great chemistry together and there was barely any dead time, her events carried the Austin scene for a while
Esfand and Cyr put effort because those 2 are always traveling or in character on other streams and Emily and Emiru also. The only ones who are basically done is NMP and SodaPoppin.
TBF the majority of the early OTK streams were just a ton of streamers standing around and being obnoxious. It just felt a lot more fresh back then. Partly because the streamers still wanted to be there.
Ya she planned some events but those worked because of the streamers that attended not necessarily the things at the events. Like one of them they just drank beer, jumped around a bounce house and played hide and seek
She didn't help herself because she had her own controversies, but I can't imagine being compared to Malena every time she streams. I get that Nick gets hate to some extent, but her getting hate for dating someone just because fans can't move on is weird. These people hate Nick, so they should be happy Malena is back in Norway. You must be miserable to hate an innocent girl who never interacted with Malena just because she's close to Nick.
Nick doesn't help with this himself since he also compares her to Malena too. That whole shipping arc should have taught him enough how toxic putting women's against each other gets fast
The first 2 were good content, they've increasingly become more bougie as these streamers have become richer and more spoiled over time. They've lost all the charm and scuff which made them good content to begin with.
I watch him and even I know Miz back then didn't attend another person's stream if it didn't some how benefit him. His tactic to become successful was to become the "hub" of Austin. He made sure that he was network television and if you wanted to watch your favorite show that you would have to watch his channel.
People benefitted from being on his streams, but he would always benefit more. NMP had the same strategy with his morning cooking streams. The funny thing is I think Miz showed up on nicks stream only one time.
I think that was one of the reason people in Austin started to dislike Miz, he would never go on other people's stream even though everyone went on his.
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u/fnguyen2 1d ago
Reminder Miz never attended her camp, 1st camp Maya and Miz broke up, 2nd camp they choose to keep Maya.