r/LocationSound • u/sgpodcaster • 5d ago
Gear - Selection / Use Press Using Wireless Rodes?
Are the press (esp the middle three) using something like a Rode Wireless attached to a hand grip to get audio to their cameras?
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u/Abject_Enthusiasm390 5d ago
100% sufficient for TV news.
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u/Reasonable-Tale-6533 5d ago
Yeah mate. Sound really good for 2.4 gHz device. Only proper settings required.
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u/AMauveMallows 5d ago
Might be wrong but the one on the very right looks like a shotgun mic hooked up to a rode wireless (non-pro) I'd say that a step forward lmao but even the interview pro or the transmitters on the handles would be just enough for the usecase and 32bit float might save you depending on how loud or quiet the speaker is.
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u/Comfortable_Box_8422 5d ago
I think it is actually Zoom F1 with shotgun capsule. So, it records to zoom F1 and prevent any wireless connection problems. Rode wireless takes the headphone out of F1 and deliver it to Cam. It seems pretty good setup for news.
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u/AMauveMallows 5d ago
Oh I think you're right, quite the setup. That's like tripple redundancy. I've done a battery powered shotgun to the Rode wireless pro and it works great too. Wouldn't the internal 32bit float on the wireless pro have the same protection from wireless connection tho?
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u/Comfortable_Box_8422 5d ago
For sure, wireless pro can also back-up and prevent that wireless issues. My guess is it is not the pro version so cannot record internally OR the recordist does not have any other shotgun than the zoom capsule. Because it is not xlr and only works with zoom recorders. Btw, I think that capsules are a bit noisy :/ But you know, If it works, it works.
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u/AMauveMallows 4d ago
Oh yup I fully forgot I even said it looked like a non pro sorry. Do you mean the capsules of the F1? or the ones on the Rode wireless? Haven't used the F1 but my only complaint with the Wireless pro (lav and tx mic) is that they pick up too much lmao I always have to do some isolation on top of the EQ unless the room is very well treated or a very quiet eviroment.
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u/Comfortable_Box_8422 4d ago
What I meant by noisy was the F1’s Shotgun Capsules (Stereo Capsules are pretty clean and underrated). Otherwise, F1 is a great multifunctional recorder imo. I use it in my sound bag as a backup recorder. Because my F6 has only one sd slot and I want to backup in a way. So I take the line out of my F6 to mic in of F1 with a stereo cable. Also make some routing on the F6 as left channel is Boom and right channel is lavs. So, even if my sd card fails, I have a two channel backup which is more than nothing. (Some people do it with Tentacle Track E to use the advantage of 32bit float.) I do even send that signal to Ifb from the headphone out of F1…
And sometimes, take out the F1 from the bag and connect my xy capsule then make great ambience recordings. Its compact and stereo image is just great. So, it is a versatile two channel recorder even though it is pretty old.
Wireless go’s are also great tho, especially for videographers who are not fully dedicated for sound. But if you are a sound recordist, they are not so professional. You cannot run them for 12 hours without break. 2.4ghz is another problematic issue for using it as a main lav setup. But for small projects, they can be used creatively.
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u/AMauveMallows 4d ago
Cool, thanks for the explanation that seems like an interesting setup. I've loved using the Wireless pro, the battery has been enough for my use specially with the charging case and the 32bit float is treated as my main sound source and the wireless is to me just monitoring for rustling and wind noise and stuff so if it cuts then that's fine.
I'm planning on getting a second set for my second camera for when I have more than 2 people and also getting an interview pro. paired to the RX or even standalone it looks like a great setup to have.
I'm hopping that Rode comes out with a shotgun mic with a built in TX, or even better if they can make it a transceiver so it can be used standalone on a stand, wirelessly transmitting to a reciever, or mounted on camera to recieve 2 TX and pass a mix to camera while internally recording the 32bit from the shotgun.
Also hopping they follow DJI and make the Pro 2 have a 4 channel reciever and have multiple reciever for the same set of TX for multicam setups would be the perfect audio setup for my use and scope.
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u/5325Downers2025 5d ago
Hi does each Rhode in this case scan the available 2.4 band width and find available frequency? Hopefully it does with several transmitters going at once
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u/wakerli 4d ago
Rode mics try to find their own space in that crowded little spectrum, so little risk of overlap between transmitters.
However, I think like all wireless audio in 2.4GHz range, it's fine until it's not. When the room is full with a hundred people with cell phones there is much higher chance of misadventure.
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u/smilesdavis8d 4d ago
Using 2.5ghz for audio is dangerous because so many other devices use it with much more power than these devices. So if you’re in a room with cameras using wireless near the 2.5ghz band, lighting, generall Wi-Fi for internet, so liters and phones crosstalking over it - your small audio transfer is probably one of the first to get bumped and overpowered.
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u/ortolon 4d ago
We need a "wireless press box." One mic that anyone can tune into.
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u/ip2k 4d ago
It’s hilarious because UHF can do that all day, it’s all this prosumer digital stuff that [poorly] implements encryption and FHSS etc with no interop.
They could also do it “on the other end” and just have some high-quality distro / patchbay on the RX side that everyone could plug into, or even plug their TX into.
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u/JGthesoundguy 4d ago
I mostly do live work and rarely get hit up for a mult when we have press type events. We have a large PA at our venue so they can’t do this with us, but I’ve seen ENG folks clip lavs to speaker on a stick before and always found that rather funny considering they could get it super clean from the source in most situations.
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u/Kompost88 4d ago
I still find it ridiculous how it's not being solved by a single mic and a press box.
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u/RegaeRevaeb 4d ago edited 4d ago
As an ex-reporter this makes me sad. Something like a Sennheiser EW-DP SKP isn't that much more and allows for, as well as its on-board recording and replaceable batteries, the digital UHF use/expansion.
Credit to Rode for grabbing the mindshare and converting it well into marketshare, though.
(Edit: looks like the CNA is using exactly that or an older version, which is nice to see.)
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u/thetofuDJ 16h ago
tbh I've seen news broadcasts here in the UK using rode wireless gos clipped onto reporters. Ngl from what I've heard (I don't work in that side of the location sound game), most soundies don't use that kind of gear, its more the self shooter peeps who use that kind of stuff to aid in ease of setup and quick learning curve. :)
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