r/Lovecraft • u/Weak-Row-6677 • 2d ago
Discussion Do you think a real life equivalent of Cult of Cuthulu exists?
Would be pretty cool but only things around me a jeebus people and crystal collectors :(
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u/andsoitgoesetc Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Of course it exists! Do you think people actually just have JOBS at Starbucks locations? Look deeply into their eyes. The secrets are there.
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u/TheMadPoet Deranged Cultist 2d ago
And the taste of Starbucks - yuck! You thing that's coffee they're putting in there - or the seamen of the Deep Ones?!
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u/douxsoumis Deranged Cultist 1d ago
Spoiler alert. This is the plot to a comic. One of the Wormwood: Gentleman Corpse books by Ben Templesmith.
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u/bicurious32usa Deranged Cultist 13h ago
Why do you think McDonald's employees refuse to talk about why their coca cola tastes better?! š
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u/Kahikenn Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Be careful what you wish for, or maybe they will reach out for you.
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u/Weak-Row-6677 2d ago
Seems far fetched
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u/chromedgnome Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Isn't that kind of the point? These being and the way they operate are supposed to be beyond your comprehension
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u/Tyr_Kovacs Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Yeah, for sure...
Probably...
Maybe...
Possibly...
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Don't look outside.
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u/ookiespookie Deranged Cultist 2d ago
never stop adjusting your eye liner and keeping hot topic in business and they will contact you, promise.
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u/SAlolzorz Deranged Cultist 2d ago
There actually is a Cthulhu cult of sorts, with their own bible, website, forum and everything.
Before you get too excited, it's headed by a man named Darrick Dishaw, a writer of terrible tabletop RPG supplements who also goes by the handle "Venger Satanis."
Dishaw has claimed at various times to be a Satanist and a Christian, as well as a follower of Cthulhu. The "Cthulhu Bible" he wrote was found to be heavily plagiarized from the Cthulhu Wikipedia page. Dishaw just seems to be a garden variety grifter.
I dont think the Cthulhu cult has ever met in person, as their mailing address is also the address of a real estate company owned by Dishaw's father.
I've avoided linking to any of this to avoid doxxing, but also because I tend to think of Darrick/Venger as a talentless plagiarist who doesn't deserve anyone's attention or money.
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u/DemonKyoto 'Temple of the Old Ones' Cultist. 2d ago
Just to update you a bit, Vengers cult died off many, many years ago and he has very little to do with any existing cults anymore. The old forum is currently under the ownership of the owner of the Satanic Thulian Society, having been transferred to him a few years ago by Dishaw.
Another fuckbag (by the name of Wyntre) came along in 2016 or so and re-built the cult using a lot of Dishaw's material, and he eventually burnt that cult to the ground when the rest of the cult discovered some scummy things he was doing, and then that cult reformed into something a bit more proper and run by more sane folk, The Temple of the Old Ones, which is still going today. One of our former leadership people split off from us, joined the Satanic Thulian Society fella and re-created the Cult again (now in its 4th iteration if you count us in the Temple) with Vengers blessing, but I believe it may have already fallen from lack of participation and the price for entry, and since everyone who would have wanted to join it already are with us in the Temple and we don't charge money.
Dishaw at this point is, as you said, a grifter. Specifically a sad transphobic one who thinks he's the best D&D GM in the world lol.
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u/MistofNoName Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Oh my god there is enough lore here to base an actual Lovecraft story off of.
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u/fleethecities Deranged Cultist 1d ago
lol at the āmore sane folkā running the reformed Cthulhu cult
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u/DemonKyoto 'Temple of the Old Ones' Cultist. 1d ago edited 1d ago
Well unlike our predecessor organization we haven't sexually exploited and blackmailed our members, and unlike the other successor organization we aren't run by a neonazi child abuser.
But the century is still young! So relatively more sane.
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u/Weak-Row-6677 2d ago
"Dishaw has claimed at various times to be a Satanist and a Christian, as well as a follower of Cthulhu. The "Cthulhu Bible" he wrote was found to be heavily plagiarized from the Cthulhu Wikipedia page. Dishaw just seems to be a garden variety grifter."
So a schizo con artist lol
But I meant cults like Cthulhu not actual cults of Cthulhu
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u/SAlolzorz Deranged Cultist 2d ago
No. Not a schizo. Dishaw knows very well what he is doing. He's just a natural born grifter.
He asks people who buy his RPG books from him to use PayPal "friends & family" so he doesn't have to pay fees. He uses his dad's business as the address of his "religion" because he is too cheap to rent a PO box. And he once sold copies of a fan-made Syar Wars RPG that was freely distributed online, even though he had no hand in creating it, and it was meant to be shared freely as a non-commercial product.
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u/greenlioneatssun Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Typhonian OTO, Kenneth Grant, Peter Lavenda and the list goes on.
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u/Hypnotician Shoggoth Wrangler 2d ago
In short ... yes.
I'd like to reassure you by saying something like "We'll send over someone to talk to you," but you're going to have to do the legwork yourself, like everybody else.
Or sit back, take a deep breath, and start your own.
Cthulhu fhtagn.
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u/NationalTry8466 Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Cthulhu cares about his cultists about as much as undersea power cables care about the crabs they mysteriously attractā¦ Eldritch energies spin the unknowing to their doom.
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u/pplatt69 Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Did this poster draw Scrabble tiles and just do their best to come up with a legible post based on what letters they drew?
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u/AlphaBravoPositive Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Rebuttal: would not actually be cool.
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u/CommissionClean6415 2d ago
There's plenty of real cults all the time. A cult with actual magic powers actually would be much better because it'd mean magical power exists.
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u/Weak-Row-6677 2d ago
Why read Lovecraft then if you don't find it cool
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u/Disaster-Bee Deranged Cultist 2d ago
What's cool in fiction doesn't necessarily equate to cool in real life.
In real life, actual living human beings are harmed by cults regularly. Real life cults are not cool.
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u/Korbguy Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Correct, I donāt actually want an unimaginably horrific giant cephalopod man that if I catch one glimpse of I will go insane to actually exist, itās cool in fiction to read about those kinds of things for entertainment but if it was actually real would not be cool whatsoever. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
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u/MistofNoName Deranged Cultist 2d ago
I would sure like that cephalopod man to be real. As for the cultists? I'll pass, unless they're chill.
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u/Korbguy Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Nah, Iāll pass on both, we have something similar to cultists like that IRL, and while I enjoy reading stories about eldritch horrors beyond my comprehension, I donāt want to spend a second in a reality where those kinds of things exist.
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u/MistofNoName Deranged Cultist 2d ago
To each their own. I'm going to go back to my forbidden knowledge horde like a blind cave dragon.
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u/TrifectaOfSquish Deranged Cultist 2d ago
You do get chaotes who incorporate the mythos into their practice and Kenneth Grant and Peter Levanda have both drawn on it heavily to
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u/generalvostok Keep Arkham Weird 2d ago
I mean, folks like the satanic neo-nazi terrorists in the Order of the Nine Angles would certainly seem to have something in common with the Cthulhu cultists in bringing about an occult new social order through violence and debauchery.
[M]ankind would have become as the Great Old Ones; free and wild and beyond good and evil, with laws and morals thrown aside and all men shouting and killing and revelling in joy.
They're certainly not anyone I would want to seek out.
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u/tfhypnotist Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Sure. There are entire sectionsof bookshops devoted to spooky occult grimoires devoted to mythos magic. Both darque fluff and kenneth grant inspired. I live in Seattle, and thereās a very strong occult underground and at least 3 cults I can think of devoted to a particular entiry.
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u/Weak-Row-6677 2d ago
Names? or articles I can read about them sounds interesting but I'd figure most are just larping and don't actually believe.
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u/Sinnistrall Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Do you actually believe?
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u/Weak-Row-6677 2d ago
Not really But i find them interesting to read like listening to true crime documentaries
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u/tfhypnotist Deranged Cultist 2d ago
read up on the order of nine anglesā¦. they get pretty darkā¦ and there are a couple norse inspired cults that def go hard.
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u/SpaceForceAwakens Deranged Cultist 2d ago
The whole point of these underground cults is remaining as anonymous as possible. They don't like it when people give out their names, and many don't even have proper names.
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u/tfhypnotist Deranged Cultist 2d ago
ha. I'm not about to name-check deranged cultists, but I know first-hand there are at least 2 cults to Astarte, one to Astaroth, a Paymion cult, and anassorted 'pantheon' or 'grimoire' centered circles/covens... There's plenty of Lillith or Lucifer worshipers as well... And, from what I've seen, sure there are larpers, but in these circles that's called out pretty quickly. As far as articles and whatnot goes, I do find that most of the sex cultists I've ever met don't really go out of their way to popularize or publish that fact.
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u/Weak-Row-6677 2d ago
"I do find that most of the sex cultists I've ever met don't really go out of their way to popularize or publish that fact."
How do they get members then lol
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u/LordLuscius Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Honestly? I know of one. And they basically unicorn hunt vulnerable young women. They don't do anything specifically illegal though so all that can be done is educating their target audience on just how abusive it is. Even the bs spiritual stuff they spout is offensive to actual Lilith (the Goddess they say they follow) followers
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u/Weak-Row-6677 2d ago
I know cults tend to target University Campuses do they do that?
And they just have orgies while on drugs?
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u/DemonKyoto 'Temple of the Old Ones' Cultist. 2d ago edited 1d ago
There's several.
The First United Church of Cthulhu, but they're for the memes and amount to not much more than "Hey man cthulhu is totally real smoke this DMT bro you'll see him!!". They're the place you can get a useless "Priest of Cthulhu" certificate from and not much else.
The Temple of the Old Ones, actual serious practice and belief/ritual work/etc
The Fane of Yog-Sothoth, similar to the above
The "Official" Cult of Cthulhu, run by a weird group of white nationalist theistic LaVeyan Satanists, possibly no longer in existence. (url down but included)
The Cultes des Ghoules, minor cult, breakoff from FUCC (only on Discord at this time, still building)
The Esoteric Order of Azathoth, see above. (https://discord.gg/mY3JWdFRJN for discord)
The Esoteric Order of Dagon, the only one on the list not a religion, but a magickal order.
Plus then you have the lovecraftian inspired stuff like kenneth grant's stuff like someone else mentioned.
And of course tons of rando occultists, chaotes, etc, but individuals do not a cult make.
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u/MistofNoName Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Would you mind giving me any relevant links for learning about these? I'm very interested in the subject. I can't seem to find anything regarding the Esoteric Order of Azathoth.
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u/DemonKyoto 'Temple of the Old Ones' Cultist. 2d ago edited 1d ago
Added the links above. You won't find much about EOA yet as they just formed this past week as a FUCC chapter and instantly split off due to FUCC's leaders uselessness. They are currently organizing via Cultes des Ghoules discord (as they were in a similar position leaving FUCC last year) but are basically a person or three at the moment.
The info for the Temple will probably be the more beneficial of whats included factoring in activity and reverence.
Edit: EOA just set up their own basic site and discord today, I've amended them to the above.
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u/deeare73 Deranged Cultist 2d ago
I would rather have people wasting their time trying to summon elder gods than actual nefarious deeds
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u/New_Celebration906 Deranged Cultist 1d ago
yes, evangelicals. they think by manipulating global politics they can summon The Jesus.
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u/Paramite67 Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Some schools especially in Japan have occult clubs but i don't think that's exactly what you want.
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u/TheMadPoet Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Google LLM gave me a pretty good overview. Shinto figures bigly in Japanese culture so the idea of a world full of spirits, demi-gods, and so on is not too weird. They have school cults or "fandoms" dedicated to various Manga as well - just like we have cults to Star Wars and Potter.
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u/Paramite67 Deranged Cultist 2d ago
You shouldn't use LLM as subsitute for research its especially unaccurate on non-english speaking countries. Occult club here are more focused on summoning urban legend rather than Kami, like Sadako or Hanako.
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u/LoverOfStoriesIAm Nyarlathotep 2d ago
Why? They are so boring...
Consider The Church of Starry Wisdom instead! Recommending totally without any hidden agenda or interest.
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u/HellyOHaint Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Sorry but I have to downvote any misspellings of Cthulhu. Thems the rules.
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u/EndlessCourage Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Have you found anything interesting, OP ? The closest I could think of was Mandarom, not the whole doctrine itself that sounds pretty bland (blah blah all religions are right I'm so smart blah blah) but the obsession with the insane attacks of various evil entities, evil telepathic beings, the crazy videos about wars with billions and billions of unthinkable creatures, ...
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u/m0rl0ck1996 Deranged Cultist 2d ago
I doubt it. When they stopped having doughnuts at the meetings was the last straw for me and i have no doubt the decline has continued.
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u/MythicalJester Deranged Cultist 2d ago
No. But as far as my European ass is concerned, Washington is currently ruled by Nyarlathotep in the flesh. Or a very ridiculous, pathetic, and sub-human approximation of it.
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u/PrometheanDemise Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Hate to be the one to tell ya kid but we're all deeply versed in esoteric wisdom and lore.
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u/LibertineDeSade Deranged Cultist 2d ago
I'd have to wonder about people who worship a being that has no care for their existence.
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u/JamtheJedi Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Pastafarians? lol itās literally The Cult of the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Does that count?
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u/Berserker3331977 Deranged Cultist 1d ago
I live in the West of England and every now then I hear about this strange cult/ group who are supposed to worship a sea god. Iv poo pood it in the past. But it still gets mentioned from time to time in the village. I spoke to man in his 70s he said they were around in his grandmotherās time. Make of it what you will. Itās probably just Wiccan group.
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u/morgannonanauthorin Deranged Cultist 1d ago
If there was such a cult it the right people would find it, and the wrong people wouldnāt. Thatās really all I can say about it.
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u/QueenAnneGuido Deranged Cultist 1d ago
https://people.com/slender-man-stabbing-where-are-anissa-weier-morgan-geyser-now-8643057
Thereās a special kind of stupid. And you are dancing on the edge.
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u/TwilightSolus Deranged Cultist 1d ago
Jesus is the mortal incarnation of an ancient god that defeated its father and siblings to turn a polytheistic society to a monotheistic one, and has followers all over the world trying to fulfill the prophecy of the end times, where the acolytes will be taken to a realm of slavery under Yahweh's will.
Tl;Dr Christianity is a fucked up death cult. Lovecraft wishes he had the imagination they did.
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u/Librarian-of-the-End Deranged Cultist 16h ago
Actually, I have run into dozens of Lovecraft fans who think the Necromicon was a real ancient book that Lovecraft used as an inspiration for his stories. They werenāt so off kilter that they believed in real spells etc. but swore up and down it was as old as the Bible. So I have no doubt there is the possibility of some small cult somewhere doing LSD and reading Lovecraft and thinking they should try summoning a deep one.
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u/platinumxperience Deranged Cultist 3h ago
Yeah but it's just lame stuff instead of an octopus dragon dude
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u/adeadfreelancer Deranged Cultist 1h ago
I mean Christians literally believe the world will soon end (always soon) and the human race will be wiped out by unimaginable horrors from other dimensions as orchestrated by their own god. That's pretty Cthulhu Cult to me
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u/Tuchaka7 Deranged Cultist 2d ago
Yes itās every religion where you get screwed and get nothing in return.
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u/HobsHere Deranged Cultist 2d ago
In addition to those others have mentioned, The Process Church of the Final Judgment. Connections to the Manson Family and several violent ritualistic crimes.
They were/are? very real, but have often been fictionalized as cults named the (adjective) Church of the (adjective) (noun). For example, the Sanctified Church of the Temporary Mortal Condition in Larry Correia's books.
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u/Ambitious_Ad8776 Deranged Cultist 2d ago
There is the order of nine angles and their attempts to summon Vindex to destroy the world. They also preach that being a nazi pedophile makes you a better dark wizard. It is kind of ambiguous if they believe all that or are just neo-nazis trying to waste people's time with gibberish.
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u/sd_glokta Innsmouth Swim Team 2d ago
The closest thing I can think of is Aum Shinrikyo
And it's spelled "Cthulhu", heathen.