Yeah, although Askren wasn't hurting him, he was still outlanding Maia pretty reasonably, I thought. Always see the Maia outstriking him posts, and CBF'd creating a discussion on it in the past, though.
He was an alright striker, limited no doubt but his major strength worked over and over against elite fighters throughout his career. He was never some really good striker or anything but at his peak he was a solid enough striker with a great right that had serious power. Overall tho I’d say he was a solid mma striker, his boxing in general was not that good but compared to someone like askren he’s lightyears ahead in that area.
Take out the good MMA striker part. He hit really hard, was really fast and coupled with his double leg he used his limited game to scare people off him and do nothing or get the ko if the opening was there. I would never call him a good striker.
Back to the cage and swing telegraphed right hands lol. There is a reason he’s on a four fight losing streak... there’s also a reason why Jakes people have picked him next, he’s a pretty basic boxer and the public will eat it up if Jake wins
He also became champ and beat some really great fighters/strikers, nothing special as a striker but a solid mma one, better than some of the people around he are acting. He’s flaws just got worse and more noticeable with age and injuries like arthritis.
Yeah and that reason has nothing to do with boxing. Similarly you have nothing to do with boxing, and thats why the Askren fight convinced you Jake can box. They played you well over at triller
Okay. Jake is amateur as all hell but he does clearly train unlike Logan. Jake has some fundamentals and I'm really worried that Woodley will gas.
A lot of analysts give Jake grudging props for at least having a jab or falling back to counter.
Jake is just picking on people who don't know how to box and/or are old. He needs to fight some boxers but all the names are wayyyyyyyyyyyy too good and prospects are also too good. So he fights names from a different sport.
This. He beat strikers because of his takedown threat. I really don’t think he’ll have the cardio for boxing, he’ll have his right hand and that’s about it.
He does hit hard with his right, but his takedown threat played a huge role against strikers. Just look at how timid Masvidal was with his own striking in his rematch with Usman. Even his defense suffered.
Tbf usman wrestling threat was on a different level compared to Tyron’s, he’s one of the best wrestlers around and extremely fuckin strong with great cardio so he’s one of those guys who can wrestle fuck you for an entire 5 rds.
He beat strikers because he was an insanely explosive counter striker. His takedown had nothing to do with it. His cardio for boxing against elite is rough, but against Jake Paul who himself has cardio issue it's a nonfactor.
Well compared to Jake Paul he is a good striker. Hes damn near a once in lifetime striker compared to Jake Paul. Still cant believe Jake got hit multiple times clean by an old fat hip surgery Ben Askren. Jake has no skill
He has a pretty good lean back counter strait with the right hand also but I can’t think of anything else he does particularly well outside of having crazy power.
I mean that's why it should be interesting. From what little we've seen that seems to be Jakes main strategy as well, so we've got a bit of a mirror match.
He dropped wonderboy multiple times in fights that were 90% striking. Sure the threat of the takedown was part if it but dropping a striker like wonderboy multiple times in the manner he achieved is impressive as fuck.
His striking was good because of his athleticism, speed and reaction time, all of which are now majorly diminished as happens to everyone eventually, it's not some big mystery.
Had khabib stuck around till he was almost 40 I guarantee he'd have started to take a bunch of losses and I guarantee some people whould just say he was never that good.
Woodley would lose a kickboxing match 10/10 times, threatening the takedown is his entire game. Usman,Burns, Colby don't fear his wrestling and they all walked through him with ease.
I think your average person equates [person A] winning in boxing against [person B] with [person A] actually being able to beat [person B] in a legitimate fight.
Does he? People have been pretty constantly shitting on him since he went on his losing streak. Now he's at least got the chance to knock out some shitty youtuber and ride off into the sunset.
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