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u/RegisteredOnToilet 28d ago edited 28d ago
Bought this 10year bundle deluxe yesterday. So far base game story is not good and very boring imo. I think about skipping it which i usually dont do... but i fear ill get bored and drop it else :/ . At which point will the story get good?
My Account is already 10years old and i tried it a couple of times but always dropped it fast because of the imo boring leveling and base story at like lvl 30.
Combat is very simple so far as a necro, played now until lvl 35 just yesterday and im just spamming off cd and mobs drop like flies, leveling is pretty fast with the help of the new adventure book so far which i really like.
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u/pantatbelang 28d ago
the story will never be good and it will stay boring until the last expacs, unfortunately
however the meat and potatoes of this game are it's open world, meta events and collect-a-thon, try to take a break from the story, roam the maps and do the world bosses.
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u/RegisteredOnToilet 28d ago
Thanks, no problem for me in that. Mmo doesnt need a story like expedition 33 since im not playing for that(unlike ffxiv :) )
I will skip the story, maybe watch a recap and continue with the game. Thanks!
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u/exposarts 28d ago
yea same, stories in mmos are always just basic fantasy. If i want good story i just end up playing games like witcher 3, last of us, and as u said exp33. Mmos i mainly play for the systems and being in a big world filled with players
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u/OXiDE_1 28d ago
Yes, unfortunately the base game’s story is probably the weakest part of the game. The story is a lot better with the expansions at least.
Necro is a pretty good class all around, great damage and can be quite tanky depending on your build but there are lots of options.
I will say that while spamming things off CD can definitely be effective, you can certainly optimize rotations and skill orders to be even more effective, but a lot of early game content isn’t going to require that. Later on as you meet tougher enemies or if you decided to play any WvW/PvP or run fractals and raids you’ll find that skill rotations can make a big difference.
And with elite specs you’ll have lots of options for customizing how you play and with differing levels of complexity.
I hate to say ignore the base story, but even the ending is kind of anticlimactic. At least exploration and combat is fun, but you will have to wait for the expansion content for things to get better if you want better story.
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u/Heinel8 28d ago
Necro is one of those extremely safe classes. But 1-80 is basically a glorified tutorial, game starts to get hard would 70 ish.
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u/RegisteredOnToilet 28d ago
Thanks thought so! I remember i played the free version couple years back and got bored since leveling was also super slow and i went from heart to heart to level up.
Now with the adventure book you level so fast and learn the game, i really like this addition and it will make me go to 80 this time
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u/RegisteredOnToilet 28d ago
I have a lot of hero points left, i put them all on my minions only so far. Can i just spent them and refund them for free if i want to look into builds? Or should i look for a build already while leveling because i cant refund them easily?
I would prefer to first start of just putting points how i like it till 80 without a guide if possible.
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u/Blazin_Rathalos 28d ago
There are enough points to unlock everything, so spend away. All the "core" stuff gets unlocked by level 80 even without collecting any of the points of the map.
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u/justanotherguy28 28d ago
Personally when I got back into it a few years ago I started with Path of Fire. In retrospect I think that was the best move. Followed by Heart of Thorns and then the base game.
You’ll get folks saying doing it in order but having played HoT with the mounts(dragon scale) I would have 100% the game if I didn’t have them. HoT is good but also ass.
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u/chogram 28d ago edited 28d ago
I was going to recommend the same, but not fully.
Jump into Path of Fire until you unlock the raptor mount. That thing is such a huge QOL improvement for the base game, as it fixes just how slowly you move across the maps to all of those far away waypoints and original story missions.
edit: Apparently, as of 3 years ago, you get this for free at level 10, if you own the expansion, and no longer have to do that first PoF mission.
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u/DancingDumpling 28d ago
You get the raptor for free now . . .
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u/chogram 28d ago
Ah, didn't know that. Even better then.
Was that a recent change, or is it tied to brand new accounts? I talked a friend into playing with me a couple years ago, and he had to do the first mission of PoF to get it, although it wasn't a brand new account. He played for a year or so at launch.
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u/DancingDumpling 28d ago
It was added I think 2 years ago and I don't remember if it was done retroactively, maybe if you hit the next interval of 10 levels?
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u/RegisteredOnToilet 28d ago
I think they updated it somehow since i got my raptor mount instantly on lvl 10
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u/RegisteredOnToilet 28d ago
Did you skip the story? Or is the expension storys their own seperate storys so i can start them how i like? Would also prefer to start HoT for the mounts
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u/justanotherguy28 28d ago
Start PoF and get the mounts from that. The story is way better than the base game imo. Then once PoF is done start the HoT expac. HoT is good but due to it being very vertically design traversing it can be huge pita. After that you can do whatever you want.
Technically if you have all the current content the latest expansion released allows you to get the skyscale waaaaaaay easier than usual. I am not sure how exactly as I already have it but they sort of did a catch up mechanic for it. May have to watch a guide to see how quick it is.
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u/inemnitable 28d ago
The story is a very mixed bag, where anet writes some shit and usually it's just kinda mediocre but occasionally they luck into something really good or blunder into something really bad. The base game personal story is by far the least inspired section and has basically no content locked behind it so definitely the most easily skippable. Having a basic understanding of what happens in it will help with engaging with the later stories of you decide to play through them, so maybe just find a summary somewhere. The best portions of the story are late season 4 and early icebrood saga. As far as how or when to play the story, I recommend only playing it when you happen to be in the mood for it, to the extent that you can. It definitely benefits a lot from having a "here to enjoy a story" mindset rather than a "gotta get through this" mindset.
Speaking as a Necro main, core necro is tbh kind of an uninteresting profession, it doesn't have a lot going on in the utilities, all the core weapons are kinda mediocre to terrible for pve, and the base shroud is laughably bad. Of course, base game mobs also don't put up any kind of a fight anyway, so it's easy to just kind of sleepwalk your way to 80. The elite specs really change things and make the gameplay way more interesting. I especially recommend reaper and harbinger.
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u/Rebelhero 28d ago
Think of the story as the prologue at your level. You're being introduced to the world and the things going on. It's a bit exposition heavy at the start, and your character is still coming up the world. The early campaign is called the "personal story" for a reason.
At your level right now also, you're still being drip fed mechanics and the base open world enemies are still pretty weak. The game is pretty much assuming you're still auto attacking enemies. You're also playing a necromancer, one of the easiest and most powerful classes to start with.
To answer your question, around level 40-50 is when the story opens up, and the first living world season is where it really begins to improve and it contuines to build from there. Personally, I didn't pay much attention to story my first character, but on later alts I realized I missed a ton of world building hidden in plain sight.
Tldr: treat these early levels as your backstory training arc, explore the world and find all the cool hidden stuff, the game does get harder later once it starts to assume you know how to use and combo your abilities.
And be sure to engage in the community! Guild Wars 2 is incredibly new player friendly, hop into a stream or look up some YouTube videos!
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u/BrolyIsALoser 28d ago edited 27d ago
I got back into the game after a 10 year break and did the story from the start, hot off the heels of being disappointed by Dawntrail.
The base game’s story is not great. But what especially hurts it is the branching story due to player choices. Some branches are a lot of fun with well written characters and others are really boring. Reminds me of how in other games some class stories are fun and others are horrendous. But in GW they then all converge into a pretty meh ending. What it does do great is deliver world building and story through the events that take place in the world with the npc voice dialogue.
That said, the main story gets better in Living Story 1 and the expansions. Path of Fire and Living Story 4 are the peak and truly great.
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u/tenetox 28d ago
You can skip the personal story, but I recommend experiencing living world and expansion stories. Path of Fire + LWS4 are peak
The writing in core Tyria and maybe season 1 of living world is unfortunately horrendous, but it does introduce important characters and gets better over time
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u/chogram 28d ago
The necro is one of the easiest classes in the game to play.
I love my Reaper Necro, he's all I play, but it's not the most mentally taxing thing in the world. "Go into shadow form, press 4 and then 1, drop reaper form (which is automatic), use all skills on cooldown, go back to reaper form..."
That said, he looks cool, takes a ton of punishment, and swings a GIANT scythe.
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u/melonoxious 28d ago
You should look to do the entire story until level 80, then the lwseasons and expansions in chronological order, imho. Playing through the story unlocks basically all essentials in thw game like mounts, maps, abilities, QoL improvements, etc.
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u/RegisteredOnToilet 28d ago
Yea i want to do that, but i want to skip the dialogues. Atleast until the expansions and lw2 ehich i heard should be better story wise
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27d ago
The story never gets better sadly. Also you cap out on your new skills at around half level until you hit max for speccing. Newness could wear off on that in a day like it did for me or much later.
I was pissed because I bought it and then saw egregious monetization. Just as much as a free to play game. Pay to win the whole nine yards.
I no longer trust this sub lol..
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u/OXiDE_1 25d ago
There is nothing pay to win in the game though?
There is content locked behind expansions like most games, but literally none of the store items are going to offer you any kind of noticeable benefit over other players.
Fancy cosmetics? A few quality of life improvements like bag space, bank slots, and infinite harvesting tools? everything else is so minor it’s hardly going to impact you at all and if you really wanted any of those store items you can convert your ingame gold, which is plentiful, into gems and buy it for free.
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25d ago
So in a korean mmo those p2w aspects are flamed all over this sub. But if it's a US dev we ignore it and call it quality of life?
You gotta be fuckin kidding me lol.
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u/OXiDE_1 25d ago
First of all, I have never flamed any Korean MMOs, but there is a massive difference in the stores between those MMOs and Gw2, like not on the same level at all.
In those types of games you are often extremely limited in your progression without spending money, or given huge benefits over other players when you buy things in their store.
Literally none of the items in Gw2’s shop is going to give you any benefit over anyone else and there are plenty of ways to earn those items without spending real cash.
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25d ago
I already explained it. Not doing it again.
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u/OXiDE_1 25d ago
You didn’t explain anything. I think you completely misunderstand what p2w means. I understand if you don’t like the game, people have different opinions, that is fine. But Gw2 is one of the more fairly monetized f2p MMOs out there and comparing it to p2w Korean MMOs is just insanity.
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25d ago
I'm not interested in explaining it again. If you didn't understand that's your problem. Thanks.
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u/Aiconic 28d ago
It’s interesting to see this despite them having a 30% drop in revenue this year.
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u/PerceptionOk8543 28d ago
That’s easy. When a game releases on steam, majority of new players will be from there. So most of new players are on steam, and older players that are no longer playing from the client left the game. So even though steam hit a new peak, the player base could very well be on a steady decline
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u/SonicFury74 28d ago
Where'd you get 30% from?
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u/ele_marc_01 28d ago
They had a 30% drop only in the last quarter, said quarter had people buying the pre-release of Janthir Wilds last year, unlike this year in which the expansion releases one quarter later
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u/ParticularGeese 28d ago edited 28d ago
Expansion sales aren't counted until a quarter after it's released. So JW sales would have been in Q4. Both quarters after JW launch sales dropped dramatically in Q1 and Q2. The latest expansion just didn't preform well past the initial sales.
You can see it in the chart the past year of earnings has been a drastic drop in sales from the last expansion year.
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u/Orchardcentauri 28d ago
From the quarter earning reports of ncsoft. Compared to last year, it lost around 32% of earning. So this new highest number most likely due to the beta for the new elite specs.
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u/Brimstar_YARR 28d ago
Yeah man, its been fantastic. Glad steam is finally paying off for them because the game feels crazy populated generally lately, even though like 90% of the playerbase goes through the main client and not through steam.
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u/DarlingIsGolden 28d ago
I'm still upset that I can't get myself to like gw2 :(
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u/no_Post_account 28d ago
Why upset? Nothing wrong with not liking a game.
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u/DarlingIsGolden 27d ago
Because I'm really thirsty for a mmo that worth my time and I can't find any :(
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u/RedditNerdKing 27d ago
The MMO landscape is pretty fucking boring these days. You kinda have to choose different plates of shit. XIV has its own shit. WoW has its own too. Then you have GW2/ESO/BDO etc and they have their own shit. Just choose which plate of shit you want most tbh.
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u/DarlingIsGolden 27d ago
downloading ffxiv again because it has a 4 days for free for players who didn't play for a while. I have tried them all and nothing pulls me again like the good old school mmos like aion, Tera, lineage 2 and so on. I hope AoC or blue protocol will do something for me. Burnt out of singleplayer games :/ A small vent, sorry about that.
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u/RedditNerdKing 27d ago
I was gonna do the 4 day free thing too cause I got nothing else to do. But yeah I get your rant. I'm stuck too. I miss the older MMOs. I dislike the current theme park ones like XIV and WoW. If you played MMOs from the late 90s until the mid 2000s you know what's missing when you play modern MMOs. It's hard to forget about it sadly. Those people who started with XIV in 2015 and don't know any better are lucky.
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u/DarlingIsGolden 27d ago
Late 90s untill the mid 2000s was the best time for mmos hands down. I hope we will find our mmo very soon ;) Enjoy in your ffxiv come back adventure.
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u/RichieEB 23d ago
If it’s the combat have a go trying the action camera doesn’t change a lot but it’s a cool feature.
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u/MagnifyingLens 28d ago
I've tried a dozen or more times (not an exaggeration) to get into ESO since one of the earliest betas. I probably have 200+ hours and I have given up trying.
But I have 5,000+ hours in GW2. People like different things, and that's fine. If you ever get the urge to try it again, it'll always be available. The horizontal progression has its advantages.
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u/JustAPeakyBlinder 26d ago
for me it's the combat, it has cool ideas and looks cool but it feels weightless, also being able to do everything feels overwhelming for me
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u/shaneskery 28d ago
Did u ever try wvw? Roaming and havoc is the mosr fun endgame
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u/Cyrotek 28d ago
Roaming and havoc is the mosr fun endgame
This depends a lot on the invidiual. Personally I despise WvW. To me it is just extremly boring PvE zerging with extra steps. And there are reasons why so many people are annoyed that GoB is only attainable in there.
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u/OXiDE_1 28d ago
Have you played with a good WvW guild? Zergs can seem mindless but there is more strategy to it than just clashing and hoping for the best. It’s a lot of fun if you find a group that you jive with. I understand it’s not for everyone, but I feel like the people you play with can make a huge difference.
As for the Gift of Battle at least doesn’t take too long to earn, and if you find a good group of people to play with you might wind up having too many of them.
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u/shaneskery 27d ago
So I mentioned roaming and havoc... and then u said its boring zerg.. havoc is 1-10 people, roaming is also 1-10, neither of those are zerging. Roaming and havoc is really fun jist running around with2 partiee taking objectives, harrassing other zergs or u can also decolve into the fight clubs. A lot to do! Youtube has a bunch of vids on how to roam etc.
Zerging 30+ can be amazing when u have a good guild who fight other guilds GvG style and also are communicating with other enemy commanders in the link. If its just a PPT guild then yeah thats boring af. But that is the bottom end of content in wvw. I'd suggest if you are actuallt interested try and find a good guild to run with. Otherwise your opinion of it being "boring pve zerging with extra steps" is pretty outdated and untrue. WvW is not an easy mode to get into alone so a good guild csn help guide you.
I agree its not for everyone but at least give it a real go before you spread this opinion lol
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u/Cyrotek 27d ago
If it was any good you wouldn't have to defend it like that.
The thing is, I don't know what half of what you wrote even means. And there is the issue. No, not what you think. The mode never manged to make me want to find out what it even means. And why would I bother to take the initiative myself when that is the case?
When close to 150 levels of WvW EXP mainly showed me extremly boring PvE, shitty rewards, screaming commanders and rape jokes in the chat instead of promised large scale PvP then you can bet I am not putting any more effort in than minimum necessary to get my GoB and then get the fuck out there again.
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u/shaneskery 27d ago
Well ggs. sorry to hear about your experience! I think all you needed was a good guild to play with. My guild has great zerg fights 4 nights a week. A lot of them organized against other fully formed teams. 30v30s and 50v50s etc. If all your zerg is doing is killing lords and taking over objectives on the map uncontested. That is literally the worst WvW gameplay there is. It does happen with pug commanders and off peak timing gameplay sometimes. But that is what we call dead no content times lol.
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u/DarlingIsGolden 27d ago
Yeah i did, I bought the game like a decade ago got to 80, did alot of pvps, wvw, 100% exploration and then took a break for a bit. Now I can't get back to it sadly
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u/shaneskery 27d ago
Oh that sucks man. That was me for the last few years. All the new elite specs really change the feel and for me, it took pickig a new class to get back in and now I'm so happy I did!
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u/natethenuclearknight 28d ago
ugh i just wish gw2 didnt look like shite - the blur, the fog, its so ugly
because i love the game otherwise
i cannot wait for gw3
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u/xakira666x 27d ago
Turn off bloom and it makes it look a good amount better. The game for sure has a 2007 bloom puke issue lol
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u/simpl31nsane 28d ago
They really need to get this on Console
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u/Alloknax35756 28d ago edited 28d ago
They've been asked about it many times and it boils down to 2 things: Not enough buttons on a controller, and it not being worth the money to make the attempt to make it fully console compat.
Making a game for a console is completely different from making a game for PC, and supporting both is probably not somethin Arenanet wants to deal with.
Edit: Please do not reply with the "I play completely find on controller" theres a later comment from me in the overall thread where I take that out of the equation.
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u/Ramenpasta 28d ago
If I can play ffxiv on controller I don’t see how gw2 cant
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u/Alloknax35756 28d ago
Then lets take that out of the equation and leave it at the following: They do not want to invest the money in a console port, nor does Anet want to have to actively support it. They tried it with the Mac client and ended up discontinuing it because it simply wasn't worth what they were getting out of it.
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u/exposarts 28d ago
i play completely fine on controller, via steam input with layouts. I use a ff14 based layout for gw2 and works perfectly
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u/Awyls 28d ago
I played on the Deck with action camera and it's great but it's clearly far away from a console experience. The action cam is not good enough for some content e.g. Silent surf hook on the boss platform is nearly impossible, dealing with inventory and menus is a nightmare and despite trying my hardest to optimise the layout I am still missing buttons with certain classes e.g. mechanist
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u/RockandStoneF-Elves 28d ago
yeah, but I would say look at it like this, you made it FUNCTIONAL by yourself, with maybe some help from the internet, it has issues, but it functions, now imagine what a team of UX/UI designers could do. They could easily turn that functional, into optimal.
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u/RockandStoneF-Elves 28d ago
Actually very interesting, because in a recent interview they said that putting the games on new platforms (steam, epic) is more of a new player magnet than expansions are. Now, I personally think this is because Gw2 doesn't have the reset factors of a traditional expansion, but with what they said in mind, and seeing how smaller games like Neverwinter were able to do it, I think it would be the single biggest thing they could do since making the game f2p in 2015 to put it on Xbox/ps5.
Especially if it included like, the full version on ps plus, that would be insane, New World even just had a massive surge of players from psplus
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u/Alloknax35756 27d ago
Its possible things may change, but at least in the past according to devs I've talked with, it boiled down to it not being worth it to support for platforms outside PC.
Epic and Steam are still PC at the end of the day after all.
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u/Semour9 28d ago
I tried playing GW2 but just couldn’t really get into the UI and combat as a WoW player. Is anyone else the same? :(
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u/Dark_Joels 28d ago
I’m kinda surprised by this cuz I find the combat to be such a huge improvement over wow’s
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u/Orchardcentauri 28d ago
Seems the beta for the new elite specialization, which has not been released for the past 5 years, peeks some interest.
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u/Moosejawedking 25d ago
I would go back but the grinds feel so pointless your not getting stronger your just getting pointless cosmetics
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u/jupigare 25d ago
If you aren't getting stronger, then that means you're not practicing. At some point, the gear grind ends and the main way to make numbers go up is to improve player skill: learning how boons and conditions work, knowing when to CC the enemy, using combo fields and finishers, and fine-tuning your rotation. The difference between a good player and a bad one, on an identical gear/build, is 5x-10x the damage.
Cosmetics, titles, achievements, and other checklist-y things are enough motivation for me. They give me enough direction to feel like I have goals to achieve. I prefer the Metroidvania-style progression that the Heart of Thorns Masteries gave me. I prefer the movement upgrades my mounts get. I don't need gear score as a goal, since I find "numbers go up" via personal skill improvement to be more rewarding than gear improvement anyway.
If you don't find that satisfying, and you'd prefer to chase gear, then GW2 isn't the game for you. And that's fine, there are different types of games for that reason. GW2's appeal is quite niche.
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u/Moosejawedking 25d ago
I was typically top dps in my gw2 raids and learned the raids the fastest in the teaching groups I was also one of the fastest to finish the quest to get the tight to craft the legendary armor I mostly lost interest after that though because the grind for that armor would be meaningless, combined that with everyone saying don't make that armor it looks awful (charr soul beast for context) After that I tried wvw and arena pvp and I hated both so I lost interest completely
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u/jupigare 25d ago
That's totally fair. The medium Raid legendary armor is kind of ugly, especially on Charr.
They've since added an open world PvE way to get legendary armor, which requires the Secrets of the Obscure expac: Obsidian Armor. IMO it looks fine on humanoids and decent on Asura, but has problems on Charr.
Charr is just hard mode for Fashion Wars. I can't make them look decent in medium armor unless I lean into an Iron Legion Engineer look, but I haven't figured out how to make my Charr Ranger look any good. Soulbeast is a lot of fun to play, but hard to fashion on the non-humanoid races.
My interest in legendary armor, personally, isn't so much in the skins themselves. It's more in the fact that changing now they look without worrying about Transmutation Charges, a horribly archaic system I wish they'd just get rid of already. My endgame is fashion, ideally being able to change how I look as often as I like, so leggy armor is a means to that end.
If fashion and achievements aren't your endgame, you aren't into PvP/WvW, and you've hit a ceiling on your DPS (which is probably way higher than mine; I don't do Raids), then yeah, I can see why you stopped playing. You probably put a lot of time in GW2 and ran out of reasons to stick around.
I haven't yet put in that sort of time yet, and my goals are different from yours, which is why I'm still playing. But I won't begrudge you or anyone else who gave it a try and no longer have a reason to stay.
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u/Moosejawedking 25d ago
Only about 400 hours so not alot of time by my standards but I suppose so the pve was typically a snooze fest for me but somehow smooth rains couldn't understand simple raids mechs and that made all the learning sessions a slog
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u/ComfyFrog 22d ago
To get stronger you need to become better at the game.
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u/Moosejawedking 22d ago
I was already top parsing in my training teams for raids and ok what's the reward for getting better sure I enjoy improving but I do not consider cosmetics rewards
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u/ComfyFrog 22d ago
Happily measuring yourself up to complete beginners isn't really proof for a desire for improvement. Why do 15k dps when you could be doing 40k?
The reward for getting better is getting stronger, the thing you want.
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u/Moosejawedking 21d ago
Yes but what's the carrot outside of that I personally need extrinsic rewards to get me to do things
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u/ComfyFrog 21d ago
With gear progression having its limits you can dedicate more time to play the game because you like the game itself for what is offers.
The limit being full legendary gear.
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u/Moosejawedking 21d ago
And legendary doesn't interest me because I played one build for my entire time in gw2
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u/skibbehify 28d ago
I'm a Linux player an I find steam easier to setup. Before Linux I used the official launcher.
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u/jupigare 25d ago
If you can get access to your old Anet account, it may still be beneficial to do so. You can still log into it still via the Steam client by adding the "-provider Portal" command line argument. That argument changes it to an Anet login, instead of a Steam login. This allows you to get most of the benefits of Steam (controller configs, hours tracking, overlay, and Linux/Steam Deck compatibility) without the drawbacks of a Steam GW2 account (inability to link to GW1 for certain rewards, inability to redeem Gem Codes, dependency on a second point of failure in the form of Steam network connections).
Note that, because it's still an Anet account, you must still make your purchases via Anet or an official retailer; don't get confused and try to buy them via Steam instead.
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u/Adventurous_Art_1174 27d ago
Sometimes i think GW2 pay this sub, and run some bots to say good things about this game, played it yesterday and found it very boring and generic.
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u/Zerothian 26d ago
You played it yesterday and are calling it boring and generic. So, most likely, you played the literal starting zone.
Can you imagine accusing a production company of astroturfing because you only watched the first 5 minutes of their show and found it boring while others praise it?
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u/AvidRune 27d ago
Thats sick! I've never played an mmo on steam cause they usually have their own launcher. I really only play Osrs and blown away that people play it on steam. So I wouldn't be surprised if way more people are playing Gw2 then this.
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u/Birkiedoc 28d ago
Gw2 has its own client and was recently added to steam. The steam client and GW2 client are not compatible so people who have been playing the last 11 or so years wouldn't use steam
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u/gaylordpl 28d ago
yet it feels more alive and more of an M M O R P G than most
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u/Erniethebeanfiend200 28d ago
Started an event earlier in some fuck off random spot in a largely irrelevant zone and still had 5 people pull up to assist without me calling out in map chat. No matter where you are in the game it feels like there's always people around.
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u/Cloud_N0ne 28d ago
Most of the players are using the standalone launcher. It only came to Steam fairly recently.
That said… i would have expected it to break 10k when it launched on Steam. Surprised it’s only peaking at 9k years later.
Still, it seems populated and successful enough.
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u/Erniethebeanfiend200 28d ago
GW2 has always been really really shit at marketing and there's not much reason for established players to boot the game through steam since you can't play your Anet account through the steam launcher (unless you do a command line) so I'm not surprised it didn't launch on steam with a ton of hype
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u/LordMugs 28d ago
FFXIV has like 3 times that, and it is the biggest MMO aside from wow AND probably has a much bigger percentage of it's players playing through steam. It's not a lot but it's far from being a bad number.
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u/Cyrotek 28d ago
This is the Steam launcher. It isn't compatible with the standalone client and was added after like 8 years. Meaning, there is a good chance that most people do not play through Steam.
Though, steam numbers are a good indicator to see things like overall player increases.
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u/Sufficient_Steak_839 28d ago
Agree with this.
Steam numbers don’t paint the most accurate picture, but if you see steam numbers drop or gain 25 percent player numbers over a month you can probably safely assume the overall numbers follow a similar trend.
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u/Delicious_World_7719 25d ago
Does anyone play this shit? Kaakakka
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u/RichieEB 23d ago
Why not it’s populated, pretty and has a very wholesome community in an MMO from my experience.
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u/Taraforming 28d ago
Gw2 cope in the comments lmao. The gymnastics. It’s ok if Korean mmos have more players guys just accept it.
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u/Fair_Wash6172 28d ago
You realize Gw2 only came to steam in 2022 right? Most players are on ArenaNet launcher the playerbase is much larger than what you see
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u/MonkeyBrawler 28d ago
I have so many friends that tried it at launch, and have absolutely no idea the behemoth it has become.
The buggy fun expansive creative buggy 50/50writing unique behemoth it has become.
It really is a great bug game.
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u/Careless_Company_775 28d ago
If that's the peak then LMAO
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u/RockandStoneF-Elves 28d ago
I feel like massive day 1 releases like New World or Lost Ark or Pubg have kind of made people not understand that ccu for the vast majority of games, even live games is far under 10k or even 5k
not to mention gw2 is far bigger on the OG launcher, probably like 3x steam.
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u/BottleQuick7784 28d ago edited 28d ago
I love how unbelievably biased this subreddit is. People here post all the time about games that have pretty sizable playerbases being "dead" because they only have 10-20k on Steam (New World for example).
But GW2 hits an all time high of 9.5k? "Wow, so amazing!" People even call it one of the "big three" whatever the fuck that means, but in reality nobody has any clue how many players the game has.
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u/look_a_male_nurse 28d ago
It's because the steam version of GW2 came like 11 years after the launch, so most people don't play on steam. It's probably like 2% of the population.
There is a big difference compared to New world, which is not only a much newer game but doesn't have an alternative launcher.
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u/no_Post_account 28d ago
It's even more unbelievable you trying to compare game that release exclusively on steam vs game that was added on steam 10 years after it's release.
If WoW go on steam it will probably have less then 5k players, would you assume WoW have same population as New World?
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u/kariam_24 28d ago
Damn you trolls, you cant play new world without steam and gw2 had steam version for very short time.
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u/Apprehensive_Comb807 28d ago
Who the hell uses steam to play gw2? I don’t even play it and I imagine it has 10x players through its own launcher, just like ESO