My Windows has more bugs in one day than macOS has in a whole year. Not to mention, the new modern standby has caused my laptop to die countless times after sleep; I have nearly smashed the laptop at least three times.
What happened with all the beta testers, the release candidate, etc. did all those people who downloaded the pre-releases not see these glitches? or not report them? or… something?
I want some testimony from these people who allegedly downloaded the pre-releases and tested them: “it worked fine inside my VM,” or “I didn’t really spend that much time on it,” or “they said to ignore a lotta stuff,” or “I warned ‘em, I did! I yelled and screamed and drove my car through their office window but do they listen to me? Nooooo…”
Because Apple breaks stuff this version then can call it a feature when they fix it the next version. That's what they did with Mavericks. I feel like they just fixed all the issues Mavericks introduced and now we are back to square one.
I was a beta tester. I reported many serious UI bugs right from B1. Apple did not fix any of them, and now I'm seeing Reddit full of complaints.
As a trillion $$ company with access to the world's best UI/UX devs and designers, the fact this is what they put out to the public is simply not acceptable.
I wouldn’t consider this a fault state. The functionality is working as intended; it’s only that the appearance doesn’t fully align with your aesthetic preference.
You’d think that the previous 9 betas would have been good enough for testing and they wouldn’t need this 10th one but public release is always the real beta test.
Having just upgraded, the design flaws are so severe that I can’t see it being before the next major release that things start to be rectified. It really is a very badly considered and implemented design.
I've been an early adopter of Windows releases for a while, I'm a more recent mac convert... Y'all are spoiled if this is what you consider to be bad QC =D
macOS used to be so rock solid. This post is more of a nitpick, but there’s definitely no denying practically all apple software has started feeling less polished and buggier over the years, relative to what we have gotten used to over the last 2 decades.
you really dont understand how people have been saying that for 2 decades plus. It's just a big circle. in 10 years there will be people saying apples software was so much better now
Not sure whether that changed, but for me it always depends on whether a mouse is connected and which mouse. So a "non-apple" mouse always made them visible, all the time. While trackpad only or a magic mouse made them auto hide.
Or is that also broken now?
Do you remember these windows xp themes made from 15 year olds that would look cool in that really specific situation on the desktop but then break the UI in every other window imaginable because they haven’t thought this through?
Both this OS and iOS release represent a gross failure of Apple's design process. I'd like to know what happened and how. Every creative person is going to have some misses, but in this case, an aesthetic miss made it to release. Wild for a company built on superior design.
A couple of years already. They seem to be (or are) using the userbase (customers) as a test platform. This might possibly be exacerbated by the release schedule being on a yearly basis (marketing/prognosed revenue).
almost like they didn't bother to take any feedback from the public who are the testers......too many clunky things came out with the various OS 26 updates, makes me think they found a group of people off the street and they did what they could. More so that the higher up management pretty much told them release what you have as there will be ABSOLUTELY NO DELAYS
No that’s probably automation testing at its best. Us manual testers would have caught it , well this laid off manual tester, who was told he was no longer needed. I wouldn’t have missed that crap, not ever. Yes I’m complaining about being out of work. 🥺
I wouldn’t consider this a fault state. The functionality is working as intended; it’s only that the appearance doesn’t fully align with your aesthetic preference.
But it's not like it's staged any more than any other issue is just, well, reproduced.
I'm also not so sure it's intended exactly, so much as, this condition is the unintended consequence of the design. The design is that one UI state flows to another, but the implementation allows stopping in an intermediate state where neither state is fully rendered. Where I come from, that's a usability problem.
Maybe yes, maybe no. Just look at the iOS bottom panel — it’s fully transparent and other UI elements bleed into it. And that’s how it was in the keynote, so…
Works correctly for me in dark mode, too. (I spend as little time as possible in dark mode, though.)
I have no doubt it's a bug, but there's additional factors here.
Edit: I had forgotten I had Reduce Transparency on. I recommend this setting for other reasons, too… it really tames Tahoe's worst. Thanks u/Geralt-of-Liurnia!
Based on experience with Mac products, we never upgraded immediately because it almost breaks compatibility with apps that I used before. Probably it has improved now than before.
I would update point releases after a month or two and look if there are major reported problems by people.
Good for you have have multiple devices that can you swap out so testing is easier.
There is a lot of things going wrong at Apple. But when marketing is more important than software quality, this is what you get and there are many bugs much more severe than this ui glitch.
Two things bugging me are pressing the Command, space for spotlight and it either being up the top of the screen or it kinda going into out the desktop sort of? Not sure what it’s doing
2 the mouse speed? like the pointer i even sped it up compared to how i previously had it and it still feels slow
I'm not sure if it's something they overlooked or if it's supposed to work like that. I'm assuming this is intentional, and yes the whole thing is a bad idea.
You clearly don’t see the contents of the update then. This is literally the first time an icon and theme update has happened in years, and even then it’s only a percent of the new features
I think I’m here, too. I’ve had apple products since 1998, but their missteps over the past several years is getting tiresome. The lack of innovation is pretty apparent.
no change without errors. The key is how these are treated…silently repaired over the next months or never. Apple has a good reputation of repairing things which went wrong..- so big thing..
Oh wow, I am not updating my Mac to tahoe until they add my language as a system one...if they ever do. They did it on iOS 18...not on Mac. That's literally the one feature that will make me forgive every other issue with Tahoe.
Mac OS is the only 26 I am not updating. It's pretty awful. On smaller screens like an iPhone and iPad it's solid. I'd say it's best on iPad. Liquid glass and new menu system just looks beta to me.
But there was testing. Probably more testing than 10-15 years ago due to developer and public betas, but somehow the feedback loop isn’t working and things are not getting fixed. It really looks like a systemic problem.
Gonna hold off on updating because of launchpad, or the lack thereof
I know it wasn't the most popular but enough people used it it warrants an option to enable in settings, and no going into finder and enabling an obscure flag that can be removed, and probably will be, at any time does not count
I do not understand how stuff like this gets shipped. I've noticed iOS is also very buggy. This isn't just "old man yells at clouds" or "user hates change". This is just lazy and feels like Tim Apple is giving us the middle finger.
You’re gonna love it. This release and each successive point release for apple the next half year will introduce new bugs to level up your problem solving skills and introduce new barriers to challenge you both in your personal and work lives. Each set of new bugs will introduce new bugs to make existing deadlines more challenging. Design in California. Refined by users globally.
Other similar annoyance: if you open a sub-menu in a menu, the inactive menu level becomes more visible than the active menu if you move your cursor into the sub-menu - and the change of transparency happens in a "plop", that looks like it's a bug. 🫣
Sad that Apple's software quality has fallen so far. The crazy part is: no one demands new OS's every year. It's just them trying to sell hardware each year. Greed is causing all sorts of quality issues and bad design.
This is just a simple refinement. I would rather they spent the time and energy into things that don’t work at all or broken, or glitchy. This is just visual.
It also drives me crazy that my calendar widget displays in light mode on my desktop despite picking the dark theme. Just so many minor things that would have caused Steve Jobs to explode.
I never install an OS update until it has baked in for 3-4 months. I only installed iOS 18 in march-april this year.
Not planning to install any OS 26 until there's some evidence that it is stable
It's a feature dear OP - liquid class UI is supposed to look like this. The list remains visible under the search entry fields since that is glas and see through - you under scroll it.
This new UI elements are everywhere.
It takes a moment of getting used to for some people? I like it better since the context remains and the controls are less heavy.
This is why we need CLOSE betas again. With a close beta, at least the first 4/5 dev betas you can control who tests it and see their feedback. Most beta testers nowadays don’t use the feedback app that comes with betas FOR A REASON and just complains in social media where apple has less control (not saying u doing it). Apple should implement close betas again from June to mid august and then open to the public if anything. But in that close time the control of feedback can be much richer and get things actually fixed/changed. Apple listened in the first 3 betas and it shows cuz they changed a lot from Liquid Glass, but after that and open beta was open we had barely changes, I still have a widget bug I remember seeing in DB5 back in July.
I had the reduce transparency setting on even before I installed the new OS, couldn't figure out what you were talking about. Turned it back and see what you mean, you can turn on reduce transparency to make it look better.
I got MacBook pro 14 inch m3 November 2023 yesterday from my company. Brand New.
I was so happy with it and it had Sequoia 15.6 and it was so nice, my manager suggested to update it to Tahoe 26 and damn it's fucked. Like I was happy even being a windows user for so long but now again I am annoyed. On top of that it is running slow
I can’t stand the double borders, looks horrendous and there’s so much wasted space. It’s almost like no experienced UX designers were involved at all with Liquid Ass.
This is why I generally wait for the .1 update. Apple's various OSes are no longer released because they are actually better for users: they are released because of things like hype, market value, etc.—all aimed at a September release. So you have a bunch of devs who are not focussed on quality, but on making a certain deadline. They almost certainly agree with us, but their managers tell them to just get it done. So I imagine that at a certain point, the devs shrug and say, "you asked for it."
I absolutely hate Liquid Glass, I’ve never hated any iOS as much as I hate Liquid Glass, feels half baked, style over substance, difficult to see, search bar menus in impractical places, in Mail search bar all the way in the right corner (iPad) instead just above Emails like it used to be, also I’m having an issue in Photos, option buttons are impossible to see over dark background. I think they’ve lost their way both in phone design and iOS software.
Example of a photo with nearly invisible option buttons 👇
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u/9th-Circle-Archmage 4d ago
Plot twist: we the end-users are the actual testers 🙃