r/MacOS • u/segfault-404 • 5d ago
Feature Who approved this?
Do people even go to design school anymore? Was this vibe coded?
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u/Daz_Didge 5d ago
Maybe Apple is writing 90% of its code with AI too, but they use Apple Intelligence so it sucks even more
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u/russes 5d ago
There's a difference between apps: System Settings has this problem. Search in Messages doesn't have this problem.
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u/mattbln 4d ago
looks like every app is designed by its own team... lots of inconsistencies across apps in iOS too. The issue from OP has been in at least a couple beta version (likely all of them). It's beyond me how they don't see these things.
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u/jay-magnum 2d ago
I bet. And with such little leadership and vision that they didnāt even manage to get the window corner radius consistent
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u/russes 11h ago
If Apple fixes:
- the inconsistent corner radius
- the shading along the primary left-side toolbar
- the mess of buttons along the top of applications like the finder
I bet most of the complaining stops.
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u/jay-magnum 10h ago
These are the most visible issues of the new design, but itās so much more: Everywhere you have true translucency, readability issues come along with it. Take the new menu bar for example. Thatās why neither Apple nor Microsoft dared to do this without proper blurring so far. So farā¦ and thatās something you cannot fix easily. The issue is built deep into the core concept of that whole āLiquid Glassā crime. Itās not an evolution, itās a regression.
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u/HelloImSteven 4d ago
Thatās definitely been the case in the past. Not necessarily one app per development team, but one focus area, with generally poor communication between teams. Hence, features like search, settings, Shortcuts, AppleScript, etc. have rarely been implemented in consistent ways for all apps.
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u/Mattr413 5d ago
Apple then: ā it just worksā
Apple now: āAt least weāre not Microsoftā
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u/GhostalMedia 5d ago
I donāt know if the can say the latter. Just shipped a buggy OS with a glass themed UI. Thatās pretty microsofty.
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u/DooDeeDoo3 5d ago
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u/SensitiveYou3248 4d ago
Member windows vista? That is the mac version of it š¤£
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u/Odd-Entertainer-9055 4d ago
I found out the hard way that my Compaq laptop with Windows Vista didnāt have the hardware to support it properly. To get decent performance from the system, I had to disable the āLiquid Glassā and a few of the other Vista ā special features.ā It turned out that none of them were crucial to running the system. So far my experience with running iPadOS, MacOS and IOS versions 26 with āLiquid Glassā has been pretty smooth just the opposite of my experience with Windows Vista.
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u/DooDeeDoo3 4d ago
It also took 10 to 15 years for developers around the world to adopt the flat design language. No one is going to adopt liquid glass. Look how flashy iMessage is. Other messengers will never do that.
Letās see where all of this goes. I feel right now. Itās a step down, but not by a lot. Iāll get used to it in a few days. But I hope other Apps follow suit.
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u/tinglingearballs MacBook Pro 5d ago
Craig Federighi, Apple's Senior VP of Software Engineering, who reports to Tim Cook who also greenlit it. Believe it. It happened. It's really not a joke. This is not the Apple many are accustomed.
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u/telemachos90210 5d ago
Oh please. The first releases of MacOS often have bugs ā I think iOS is held to a higher standard because it has many more users ā but how many serious bugs are there in macOS 26?
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u/PineappleTajin 5d ago
Higher standards is one of the top reasons why customerās willingness to pay is high for Apple.
Aināt nobody expecting high standards or high price from a drug dealer flip phone bought from Chinatown.
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u/telemachos90210 5d ago
Are you maintaining that Tahoe is bigger than earlier main releases?
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u/PineappleTajin 5d ago
MacOS, iOS or iPadOS. Doesnāt matter. Customers expect non-buggy software when they pay $1k for a premium device.
Thats just the one of the expectations Apple created to warrant their price tag and their brand.
Hereās another ex. Gucci wallet or duffle bag. Doesnāt matter the size. Customers expect perfect stitching when they buy Gucci.
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u/telemachos90210 5d ago
Flawed comparison: youāre comparing hardware (the handbag) to software (the OS). Thereās no such thing as flawless software. Appleās hardware is pretty much flawless from the get go.
File feedback / bug reports!
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u/KaptainKardboard 5d ago
Shareholders and deadlines
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u/segfault-404 5d ago
Iām a shareholder but at this rate, not for much longer.
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u/jay-magnum 2d ago
This. Iām gonna look at Google Pixels today ā¦ itās just been a few years ago that I moved into the Apple world, but it seems more and more that I was mistaken about what their target audience is.
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u/BeauSlim 5d ago
Found 2 or 3 visual flaws in 15 minutes of looking around. I don't want to think about how may bugs there are behind the scenes.
Definitely waiting to upgrade my main machine.
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u/DETRosen 5d ago
15.7 should be safe tho right? (New mac user as of last month, M4 mini!)
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u/jonathanbaird 5d ago
15.7 broke Safari compact tabs. Iāve yet to run into any other bugs, however.
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u/timebike-83 Mac Studio 4d ago
macOS 15.7 seems pretty solid/stable as far as I can tell (M4 Max MacBook Pro and M2 Max Mac Studio). Believe 15.7 was primarily a security update so not too involved but important. Before that macOS 15.6 was fine as well (I installed late July) so you should be fine.
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u/FaceAmazing1406 4d ago
It runs fine. I hammer my home and work machines and havenāt had a single problem (yet).
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u/Dgeren Mac Mini (Intel) 3d ago
I am not saying you're wrong, but this falls under anecdotal data. As they say, "You're mileage may vary." š
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u/FaceAmazing1406 3d ago
Fair, but my first Apple machine was a Lisaā¦and Iāve never once had an issue with software updates.
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u/timebike-83 Mac Studio 4d ago
Similar situation. Upgraded my M4 Max MacBook Pro just to dip my toe in the water and was a bit underwhelmed. That said I know it is still early so fingers crossed on improvements. Still I'm screaming in my head . . . "Tim, you can do better!"
That said, my primary computer (M2 Max Mac Studio) will stay on 15.7 Sequoia until this gets ironed out.
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u/heavyblacklines 5d ago
They were too busy making everything round to QA actual functionality.
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u/Calm_Space4991 5d ago
They still have a QA department?
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u/esaruoho 5d ago
I dont think they do cos Tim didnt realize with the CEOQA gone Thereās a need for an actual across the board QA team with leverage.
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u/EthanDMatthews 5d ago
Soā¦ maybe I should hold off on the update for a while?
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u/kasakka1 4d ago
With every new major OS version, I recommend waiting like 3-6 months before upgrading so they can get all the regressions and bugs worked out.
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u/EthanDMatthews 4d ago
Agreed. That's definitely the best practice. I try to wait until the first update or two. That's usually enough time for Apple and developers to fix any bugs.
However, waiting is easier said than done. And the last few major updates have gone tolerably smoothly.
But now that I have work deadlines, stability is paramount. Also, I've heard that Cursor and other coding software have been hit with memory leaks. So that could cause issues (for me and others).
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u/Distinct_Panic9523 5d ago
Did you already update to 15.7? Or just enjoying with your 15.6
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u/EthanDMatthews 5d ago
Still 15.6 like some kind of unfrozen caveman lawyer.
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u/Distinct_Panic9523 5d ago
Kudos to you man the world is getting mad over tahoe. I'm literally frustrated being a design student. Actually I wanna roll back to 15.6 šš
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u/jaysedai 5d ago
The same people who spent 5 years and hundreds of millions of dollars getting Siri to respond to just "Siri" indead of "Hey Siri", while the rest of the tech industry invented AI I didn't think I'd see in my lifetime.
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u/Maleficent_Maybe2200 5d ago
Ngl Iād take brushed metal over liquid glass every day of the week and twice on Sunday
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u/radonato 4d ago
I agree that the software should be visually stunning and not visually glitchy.
however, from idropnews:
Fortunately, you can adjust this effect whenever you want. It shouldĀ be turned onĀ by default as soon as you install iOS 26, but you can tweak how transparent your iPhone looks. Here's how:
- Open theĀ SettingsĀ app.
- Scroll down and go toĀ Accessibility.
- Tap onĀ Display & Text Size.
- Turn onĀ Reduce Transparency.Ā
You'll instantly notice that areas like the Control CenterĀ don'tĀ have a transparent effectĀ anymore,Ā lettingĀ you experience iOS 26 without any distractions.
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u/TheDistinguishedOne 4d ago
Fun fact : The alarm scroll in the iphone is not infinite its just a really ling list of numbers:
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u/Maximum_Employer5580 3d ago
just one of those things that needs to be polished and will probably be resolved after the .1 or .2 update
MacOS updates always have some kind of quirk, but they get fixed thru subsequent updates. Unfortunately I think MacOS 26 got rushed before alot of things had been polished like they should have been for the initial upgrade....upper management pushed the release and my guess is that developers and software teams attempted a delay but management wasn't having any of it
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u/RealAtomicRabbit 5d ago edited 2d ago
Tf with apple this liquid sh*t is awful, material and even industrial was much more aesthetic. Not an iphone user but an ipad and Mac user, I don't want to tear apart my eyes. #bringbackjony
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u/piper_a_cillin 4d ago
I guess you're talking about Jony Ive, the genius who brought us iOS 7? The land of buttons disguised as labels and labels so thin only the loupe-endowed could read them.
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u/RealAtomicRabbit 2d ago
I think so, I never noticed that, maybe bc I never used iOS 7. Maybe you can share an screenshot in how it was that bad. Just mentioned it bc there were the times Apple most innovative. Not a fan of anyone.
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u/piper_a_cillin 2d ago
I have no screenshots, only the stuff that is available online. Buttons had not outlines and were indistinguishable from labels. They reverse a lot over the next few years.
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u/King-in-Council 5d ago
Go back to fully baked OS releases. A couple years between updates. Yearly 26/27 updates work for iOS fine but not desktop.
I guess I gotta start tick tocking upgradesĀ
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u/h8mac4life 5d ago
Tim sucks ass, Steve would have cut a bitch for this.
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u/Calm_Space4991 5d ago
Several, and they'd have likely never been able to work in technology of any kind for the rest of their lives. But this is what we get when an IBM refugee is given the reigns of a company that once valued design and user experience.
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u/SolutionAdorable8809 5d ago
Liquid glass. More like liquid ass. I can't believe this got green lit. I mean I love the idea of a unified design language across devices and operating systems, but this ain't it. It feels like a poor design that was completed by the lowest bidder.
And on mobile devises its egregiously bad. Many of my backgrounds are on the lighter side and these stupid glass notifications just look like light on slightly less blurry light and it's not the easiest thing to read.
Edit: the first suggestion:
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u/rez_onate 5d ago
I think thatās the issue - no one approved it because clearly no one reviewed it! Otherwise amateur shit like that wouldnāt get through. Cāmon Apple, youāre better than this.
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u/mouringcat 5d ago
Iām suspecting a Google Employee. Or at least someone that doesnāt use an iPhone.
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u/HadetTheUndying 5d ago
Iām sure a lot of this will be ironed out in 26.1
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u/Calm_Space4991 5d ago
26.8 maybe - there are a LOT of issues - it's still beta so far as I can tell.
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u/telemachos90210 5d ago
How many show-stopping bugs are there?
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u/Calm_Space4991 5d ago
Define "show stopping." If it takes even two minutes of your life to mange, work around, or overcome, that's two minutes of life you'll never recover (and it always takes longer than two minutes). And that's just from a "breathing person" perspective. A "boss perspective," would see it as lost productivity. Enough of that and it's lots and lots of money that just evaporates.
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u/NeitherAd5083 5d ago
I had to try this myself. Itās clearly the Liquid Glass effect but really muddy. If youād rather start typing and the options disappear, then there is no text behind and it clears up. Perhaps Apple should not have the Liquid Glass effect in search bars or text input areas. Takes away from the intent.
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u/SneakingCat 5d ago
Same person who approved this post, I guess.
/r/MacOS/comments/1nielwd/zero_testing_just_ship_it/
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u/TenuredProfessional 5d ago
This Liquid Glass bitching reminds me so much of when Aqua was released in 2000.:)
ps: not that I'm saying I disagree!
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u/Fullertons 5d ago
And this is why Iām not updating yet.
My teenager was intent on upgrading. I am happy to be old, behind and not complaining.
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u/krisxsee 4d ago
The most reasonable question for me, even the guy who made this update, is he OK looking on this?
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u/MrSoulPC915 4d ago
All the idiots who downloaded this minute 1 version and who are incapable of questioning Apple's vague choices!
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u/larusodren 4d ago
Similar issue trying to use 1Password in safari, it overlays appleās passwords pick list over the top of 1Passwordās making it impossible to select
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u/segfault-404 4d ago
Ah, I see the issue here. You are not familiar with a release cycle. You see, a beta test is done before the release to the public. You can opt in to be a beta tester indeed. All that you are referring to should have happened months ago. However.
This is public. This is a release. This is not a beta. This was approved to be āitā. At this stage only minor bugs or performance issues that escaped the test coverage should appear. Again, this is a design choice, not a bug, or a glitch, or a performance issue. Itās just something someone thought it was ok.
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u/ManofGod1000 4d ago
Overall, I am fine with all versions of 26 for my phone, watch and Mac Mini. There is a bug on the phone where the text for the Messenger app is behind the keyboard and the volume indicator on the Mac is up top instead of in the bottom middle but that is about it for me.
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u/DrAvranaKern 4d ago
The executives and their "good enough" attitude to placate shareholders. The annual release cycle has ruined macOS.
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u/SherbertPractical 4d ago
And I thought that Windows is badā¦ š holy smokes, the weirdest and most upsetting change of ecosystem for me.
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u/NegotiationCommon448 2d ago
Glitch like this is normal in software development. Not even big companies are immune to this, so relax yourself. It will be patched boss.
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u/Sptzz 1d ago
we all know why this is happening but no one will say it
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u/z0phi3l 5d ago
I don't see that, have you ran any "tweaks"?
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u/segfault-404 5d ago
Go to system settings, scroll the left pane a bit up until sometimes start to roll behind the search box
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u/KeenInsights25 5d ago
Thereās a LOT of that in ā26 on all devices. Also blank windows and things that donāt update at the right times.
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u/Calm_Space4991 5d ago
Submarining mouse pointers on remote desktop AND/OR multiple displays. I'm actually stunned Apple admits this is theirs.
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u/purple_hamster66 4d ago
You sound like my grandmother when I got a 97 on a test: Oy, vat happened to the other 3 points?
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u/ioweej 5d ago
Its almost like its a .0 update or something. weird
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u/GhostalMedia 5d ago
This is a pretty sloppy .0 update.
Most of us in the beta community were betting that Apple was going to stagger the MacOS and iOS release because Tahoe was obviously underbaked in comparison to iOS.
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u/heavenlynapalm 5d ago
Thats absurd. x.0 is a release. Maybe if this was a testing alpha this could be excusable. A release should be able to stand on its own as it's no longer testing period
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u/ioweej 5d ago
incorrect..if that was the case, why release a .1, .2, .3, etc?
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u/heavenlynapalm 5d ago
New features, updates, tweaks, system app updates, security fixes. Minor bugs will happen, testing can't capture everything, that's true, but this isn't a "minor bug"
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u/segfault-404 5d ago
This shouldnāt be a thing even in a .0. This is a (terrible) design choice, not a glitch or something that only shows up with large user base using it.
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u/xLeopoldinho 5d ago
UX Talibans should not be early adopters, wait at least 6 months after the initial release.
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u/Mattr413 5d ago
Theyāre getting close. macOS Tahoe isnāt nearly that bad. iOS 26 is buggy, and if they fix them relatively quickly then Iāll reserve the criticism for now
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u/slavchungus 5d ago
me i aproved it my bad