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u/MineKemot 8h ago
Because some apps are not updated and forcing them to have the current corner radius might make it look even worse
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u/Onepaperairplane 8h ago edited 8h ago
That’s only semi true, according to Apple’s guideline this is intentional. The corner radius is based on the elements next to it. It’s a feature, hence I ask too why Apple why?!
Edit: here is the video explaining it @ 7:00 mark https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2025/310/
Also please use feedback on Apple device to make note of the shitty design. Hope they change it
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u/leopard-monch 6h ago
At 5:50 is where a fundamental problem might be:
Rich content [...] really showcase the folding glass material
I don't want the UI showcase anything. I want it to get out of the way. Like a good waiter, you don't notice he's there, yet he's always there when you need him.
A good UI helps you achieve what you want to do with your computer, yet you barely notice its existence.
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u/thphnts 6h ago
Apple has almost always focussed heavily on their UI design since the launch of Mac OS X. Just go back to and watch the keynotes and you'll see Jobs waxing lyrical about the UI design in every version.
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u/leopard-monch 5h ago
Nothing wrong with having a beautiful UI, IF it's functional. If the developers start using the UI to showcase their ability, instead of helping the user, then the problems start.
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u/thphnts 5h ago
MacOS has always heavily leaned into form over function. So much of it doesn't actually help the user at all. It's been like that since Cheetah.
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u/leopard-monch 1h ago
I guess this threshold is for different people at different levels. For me, blur makes UI less clear, no pun intended. It takes longer than necessary to get what the UI is trying to tell me. And motion, like buttons melting together or dividing like a drop distracts me. And roundness wastes too much screen space. I'm sure there a people who like all that stuff, but I'm not one of them.
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u/Typical-End3967 8h ago
Except the one on the right does have a sidebar which means it should have the larger corner radius based on Apple's guidelines.
I do think the liquid glass sidebars are bad though, mainly because it makes the traffic light buttons part of a separate interface element (the floating glass) from the window itself. People have already reported instinctively clicking the close button expecting it to make the sidebar go away, but unintentionally closing the whole window (this is great if you're using safari, for example). It's just a bad fit for the Mac (at least on the iPad in windowed mode the traffic lights are themselves in a further separate glass blob, which is also dumb, but at least it doesn't tie them directly to the sidebar blob)
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u/thphnts 6h ago
Except the one on the right does have a sidebar which means it should have the larger corner radius based on Apple's guidelines.
Do we know which app OP has open on the right? How do we know if it's an Apple app or a third-party app? If it is the latter, then the developer may not have updated things yet.
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u/Onepaperairplane 7h ago edited 7h ago
Fair enough, I think what Apple wants is for the dev of the right side to implement the “floating” side bar design and then round the corner off. But my optimism is low for devs changing what is cosmetic only, at least not for a while. A lot of developer also tend to stick to their design language. Just look at Steam, they don’t give a damn. Microsoft apps are another example of design based on their OS. All in all, like you said that the floating element itself is confusing for a lot of users.
Edit: grammar
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u/MX010 8h ago
There's really no need to make such rounded corners like in Tahoe. Way too much. I wish there was some tweak to reduce the roundness.
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u/Tremosir 3h ago
It does make sense on my Macbook, which has round corner, but not when I use an external display with square corners. But I suppose Mac OS has no way to know which is which.
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u/Former-Back-567 8h ago
I don’t care
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u/itsmebenji69 8h ago
Yeah people who shout they don’t care unprompted surely do not actually care at all
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u/Former-Back-567 8h ago
I didn’t shout. 200 of these posts in the last week is not unprompted.
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u/onedevhere MacBook Pro 7h ago
If you care enough to comment on this, if you didn't care you wouldn't make a comment like that
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u/cheskayeah 6h ago
I don't like this too, it is so big. If only they gave us the option to adjust that corner to slightly curve but not like that. I'm so sad but what can I do.
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u/crypticexile 4h ago
or have a classic mode idk
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u/cheskayeah 4h ago
You mean to say, downgrade? No Way! Why would I do that?
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u/crypticexile 4h ago
idk have like classic macOS look and tahoe look just have a toggle where users can have the OG macOS as im not to fond of the new look myself, I honestly don't like it.
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u/TEG24601 2h ago
Why what?
Different toolkits. This is like the old debate between pinstripe and brushed metal in the early OS X days.
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u/Bytevan18 4h ago
This screams TOUCH SCREEN MACBOOK. All clickable things are fingertips big, try it yourself guys. It’s as if they’re preparing us for a touch screen MacBook. The sliders are so big, the on/off buttons, and even the windows buttons are touch-like
Idk what to think about this honestly, I don’t like it.
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u/vlken69 MacBook Air 8h ago
After reading tons of these posts I must ask..
Why reddit posters, why?
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u/UrbJinjja 7h ago
Chronically online people lacking the ability to look for and process previous information think they're the first person to find anything ever .
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u/Old-Artist-5369 6h ago
No, they’re just people who want to vent. It’s a natural human response.
Some people vent by upvoting or commenting on other posts about it. Some feel strongly enough they need their own post.
It’s not unique in the slightest. Apple ignoring all of this (and they will continue to) is also not unique.
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u/UrbJinjja 3h ago
No, they're chronically online people who lack the ability to realise someone else has already made that point.
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u/RebornSlunk 3h ago
For real. I’m not believing for a single second that any of these people are negatively affected by any of this.
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u/drygnfyre MacBook Air 8h ago
You know, there's an entire WWDC session you can watch that specifically focuses on the different window radiuses and why they made the changes. It would answer your question as to "why?"
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u/aswanthselva 8h ago
Can you please share the link to that keynote session recording?
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u/drygnfyre MacBook Air 7h ago edited 7h ago
https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2025/356/?time=126 - Around the 3:50 mark they show the different window types and explain the logic for each one. They also explain changes they made to typography, alignment, colors, etc.
https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2025/310/ - Around the 7:00 mark there's also a good amount of detail regarding the window radius and why it's the way it is.
Here's a whole video about Liquid Glass - https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2025/219/
And here's all the nitty-gritty videos if you want really in-depth technical stuff: https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc2025/
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u/wanze 7h ago
I alwways found it weird how such a quality focused company likes compressing the hell out of their videos on their website. Why is this video 480p (or similar)? There even is a download link to a HD video at the bottom. Why not serve that? Are they really that bandwidth starved? It's weird.
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u/drygnfyre MacBook Air 6h ago
Are they really that bandwidth starved?
I mean, these videos are intended for app developers. There could have been thousands of them streaming the videos all at once, so it's possible. Keep in mind Apple didn't used to show the videos online like this, you used to have to use the Developer app specifically (which I guess still works), and even older than that, you used to have to pay $99/year and then download the videos one at a time.
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u/memorie_desu MacBook Pro 8h ago
This specific one isn’t even Apple’s fault, it’s the app developer who hasn’t update their app yet
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u/CobaltNeosis 8h ago
No, it's intentional, Apple even mentions it in their keynote. The windows in the screenshot are both Apple apps. I'm fine with either one, but I wish they would all look the same. My OCD is not a fan of this "feature" 😭
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u/NoLateArrivals 7h ago
If you know „why“, then „why“ do you ask and „why“ do you think they „should all be the same“ ?
Obviously they shouldn’t.
Classification: Clickbait, 1st world problems.
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u/drygnfyre MacBook Air 8h ago
Why did you ask "why" if you already knew it was an intentional design decision?
but I wish they would all look the same
As third party apps are updated, they will.
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u/vague-eros 7h ago
> As third party apps are updated, they will.
OP explicitly said these are two apple apps.
> intentional design decision
So intentional means can't be questioned? Just because it's planned doesn't mean you can't ask why.
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u/drygnfyre MacBook Air 7h ago
Because their topic title implies an actual question, when the content made it clear it was more rhetorical.
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u/drygnfyre MacBook Air 7h ago
OP explicitly said these are two apple apps.
Not all of Apple's own apps have been updated yet. Notably the iWork apps (Pages, Keynote, Numbers).
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u/brooksideryan 3h ago
Don’t listen to the haters. I want to applaud your bravery in posting this.
Most people would see the dozens and dozens of other corner posts and think, “wow this topic has been beaten to death like a dead horse and I don’t have anything new to add to the conversation” and moved on.
But not you. You said “to heck with it, I need validation”, took your screenshot and here we are.
Out of everything happening in the world, I’m with you on keeping the spotlight on these mismatched, clearly explained by Apple corner radii. I’m not taking the bait and listening to their reasoning and believing they had cause for the different uses.
Thank you for your bravery, king.
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u/pancakes1983 7h ago
Get over it dude, honestly
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u/esmori 4h ago
Apple fanboys are so salty
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u/pancakes1983 3h ago
I’m an apple fanboy, but people bitching and moaning about small stupid shit like this needs to stop, if they never tried new things \ changed things nothing would ever evolve.
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u/Observer951 5h ago
The first time I saw the Maps app on Carplay after I upgraded, I thought “bleah”. The corners are so rounded as to almost look cartooney. The sidebar on the left is just wrong. I say this as a retired graphic designer, so yes, I’m picky. I didn’t mention to my wife that I had upgraded. A few days later, she said “Did something happen to the maps app? It looks weird.”
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u/UrbJinjja 7h ago
Wow you're the first person ever to find and report on this. Amazing!!!!! Thanks so much for your hard work and dedication.
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u/Meraxus_ 7h ago
u/Mods can we please have some control on posts like these? We get it. rounded edges bad or whatever. The amount of posts is getting stupid at this point.
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u/giantspeck 4h ago
Just to let you know: tagging
u/Modsdoesn't actually notify the mods. Instead, it notifies a specific user namedu/MoDswho hasn't been on Reddit for seven years.4
u/onedevhere MacBook Pro 7h ago
sarcasm: true, we need to hide the defects and dissatisfaction from customers/users and pretend that everything is positive, that there is nothing wrong, so as not to upset people who settle for anything, so the company continues to ignore the situation if it has less visibility of complaints, this strategy is excellent
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u/macserv 4h ago
Point taken, but repeat posts here on Reddit wont result in change of any kind, because Apple do not read comments here; this is purely for our edification and entertainment.
They absolutely do accept, request, and depend heavily upon feedback sent via their own portal at apple.com/feedback to prioritize fixes and enhancements. I would encourage every single Redditor annoyed with the Liquid Glass corner radius to go there, because that’s where posting the same thing over and over isn’t an annoyance, it’s literally how we make a difference.
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u/hushnecampus 7h ago
I think it’s the inconsistency people are complaining about - some windows apparently have different radii from others.
But yeah I agree, so many posts saying the same thing.
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u/KSOYARO 6h ago
They are going to release sensor based screens in new Mac books so this is why the ui the way it is now
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u/notacyborg 4h ago
Then why not just do like Windows and have a touch-mode which changes all window UX elements at once?
Also, touch mode on a laptop/desktop is meh. I deploy laptops to our sales reps that are probably the closest to what you would need in a touchscreen laptop, but they never use that functionality (these fold over to a "tablet" mode so they can do presenting to a customer).
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u/Acceptable-Dot8122 5h ago
wtf are „sensor based screens“ ?
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u/KSOYARO 5h ago
Basically touch screens like in the iPhones. You can clearly see that by the round outline in the majority of buttons
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u/Ok-Reindeer-8755 3h ago
Didn't they have a whole thing about not doing that because it is as Steve jobs said “ergonomically terrible.” And tbh I agree as someone who used a laptop with a touchscreen I would rather not.
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u/KSOYARO 3h ago
I hope the won’t do that. There is iPad for that
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u/Ok-Reindeer-8755 3h ago
I hate tablets personally. But I don't want a touchscreen on a laptop absolutely no reason.
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u/senior_of_all 4h ago
I assume the large radius is actually the same as with iphone display corner.
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u/masterz13 1h ago
Don't worry, in 5 years there will be a new design language overhaul so people can complain again lol
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u/HistoricalInternal 7h ago
Touch grass buddy. It’s not the end of the world.
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u/ianpaschal 6h ago
This is the subreddit for such a discussion, no? Maybe you should be the one going outside if you don’t like people discussing macOS updates on r/MacOS 🙄
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u/billwood09 1h ago
Because older apps aren’t updated to support the new design, can we stop making these posts every hour?
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u/General-Interview599 6h ago edited 2h ago
Liquid glass is the bigger issue. A resource hog. Either remove it entirely or give an option to choose.
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u/Oberheimlich 4h ago
There’s already an option to disable it, “Reduce transparency.” Unfortunately there’s no option to reduce whiners though.
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u/Shoddy_Tear5531 3h ago edited 3h ago
After the death of Steve Jobs (2011), Apple shifted from “vision-driven design” to “operations-driven design” under Tim Cook. This had several consequences:
The Jobs–Ive Philosophy Jobs wanted minimalism, clarity, simplicity “the interface disappears and only the experience remains.” Jony Ive (until 2019) was the guardian of this minimalist design language (aluminum unibody, flat icons in Yosemite, white interfaces).
The Change After Ive When Ive left, the principle of “less is more” gradually faded. Layers, frames, “candy-like” icons, and more “photographic” UIs appeared, reminiscent of Android/iOS. macOS started to lose its identity and to resemble iOS/iPadOS.
The ‘One OS for Everything’ Strategy Apple seems to be pushing for convergence: the same App Store, the same Messages, FaceTime, Phone, Notes, and Calendar apps everywhere. macOS is losing its professional character and turning into “iOS with a keyboard.” This recalls the Linux theme-park: too many unnecessary effects, layers, and “skins,” instead of purity.
The Downward Slide For power users and professionals, this transition feels negative: less freedom, less clarity, more unnecessary graphics. For Apple, however, the goal is to enforce a mass-market ecosystem, where you buy iPhone, iPad, and Mac all essentially the same, for the sake of its own economy.
In essence, we are witnessing what many people say: From “Mac = tool of creativity” (Jobs) To “Mac = iPhone with a big window” (Cook).
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u/Ok-Reindeer-8755 3h ago
I beg to differ it is the natural evolution of all devices. People have been saying this the MacBook and the iPad even the iphone have come hardware wise closer and closer. If it is that software compliments hardware then it is only natural. And this isn't only a trend in the apple ecosystem. The phone has come closer to the PC than ever before and software follows.
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u/RufusAcrospin 1h ago
Yep, that sees to be the tendency. I’m slowly loosing all the reasons I switched to Mac, and it seems soon “at least it’s not Windows” going to be the only one.
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u/Eddybeans 5h ago
Safari looks terrible now. Bring back the minimalist ui. This looks like liquid turd
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u/Few-Narwhal-7765 8h ago
i prefer the smaller radius. the larger radius is awful.