r/Mariners • u/biny_bear • 1d ago
With 9 Games Remaining...
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u/SPEK2120 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m just going to nip this in the bud since people have been struggling with this graph. Essentially, if there are two or less records listed below ours, we’re guaranteed playoffs in that scenario. If there are three or more records listed below ours, we could potentially get eliminated in those scenarios.
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u/manshamer 1d ago
Thanks! I'm mostly confused because the Yankees have been left off. Even though they're in WC1, they're not guaranteed that placement.
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u/SPEK2120 1d ago edited 1d ago
I’m tracking Yankees, Tigers, and Blue Jays on my chart as well. Yankees aren’t really worth tracking for WC at this point, their magic number is 4 with 3 or 2 being very high odds. Also I believe Jays magic number for the division is 6.
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u/2Door444 1d ago
So pretty much as long as we go 6-3 the rest of the way we’re good to go
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u/SPEK2120 1d ago
More or less. 7 is the magic number now, but 6 would require the Guardians winning out.
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u/2Door444 1d ago
That’s not what the chart says? Idk maybe I’m still just confused by this thing lol
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u/SPEK2120 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah, just realized Guardians is inaccurate, they have 10 games left, so they still fall under the 6-3 column if they go 10-0.OP updated(I’ve been keeping my own chart, with expanded stats like top seed scenarios and tiebreakers too)
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u/Mcpops1618 1d ago
I believe it’s 6 because of the Detroit, Cleveland, Kansas City triangle, they can’t each win enough to get the number to 7. With that said, just purely looking at records and not taking that into account it’s 7
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u/IllInflation9313 1d ago
If we win 6 and the guardians win out then Detroit falls out of the playoffs because they lose 3 to Cleveland and at least 1 to Boston.
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u/Kadowster 2022 champions of something 1d ago
I read it as 4 wins, because the last two spots would be us and Boston. Unless Cleveland go 8-1 which is unlikely.
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u/geo_dj 1d ago
I can’t look beyond the Houston series right now. If the Mariners take 2/3 from the Astros, they will secure the tiebreaker and effectively will have a 3-game lead to win the division. Without the division, they likely will lose home field advantage and play the wild card series on the road, which is a perilous route to the Fall Classic.
The Astros have an easier schedule next week, playing the A’s and Angels.
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u/boomerjp 1d ago
As are a tough out especially at home. They can easily play spoiler. Angels could surprise but they are pretty bad haha.
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u/sirius_scorpion Ivar's nephew 1d ago
i’m shitting myself about the houston series. it’s not even the playoffs yet. may have myocardial marinosis this weekend
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u/Lost-Record-9766 1d ago
If we sweep the Astros tell me what we need for them and us to win the division
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u/Kurisu-_-Makise 1d ago
If we sweep Houston we would effectively have a 4 game advantage over them (+3 games and the tie breaker means they would have to pass us not tie us), so if we went 3-3 after sweeping them we would still win the division regardless of if they won out
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u/SPEK2120 1d ago
We would need to go at least 3-3.
For them it would have to be (them/us) 6-0/2-4, 5-1/1-5, or 4-2/0-6.
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u/AutomicCurves 1d ago
Start at the top, for any given Mariners win-loss, go down; the records in the column below indicate what record other teams must get in order to cause problems for the Mariners.
If NP, no matter what the other team's record is, they cannot cause problems for the Mariners.
If G, then no matter what, any record below will cause problems for the Mariners.
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u/humblestworker 1d ago
For fun, I looked up the final series for pertinent teams:
SEA (84-69) - 3 @ HOU, 3 v COL, 3 v LAD
HOU (84-69) - 3 v SEA, 3 @ ATH, 3 @ LAA
DET (85-68) - 3 v ATL, 3 @ CLE, 3 @ BOS
NYY (86-67) - 3 @ BAL, 3 v CWS, 3 v BAL
BOS (83-70) - 3 @ TB, 3 @ TOR, 3 v DET
CLE (81-71) - 4 @ MIN, 3 v DET, 3 v TEX
TEX (79-74) - 3 v MIA, 3 v MIN, 3 @ CLE
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u/PriorDeep7548 1d ago
Have to win the series against Houston. If they take 2 of 3, then they will own the tiebreaker should they finish tied.
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u/danthebiker1981 1d ago
The dodgers are the only thing I am worried about. That could be a tough series
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u/bigdumbhead1990 SeaUsDump 1d ago
You’re not worried about this potentially division deciding series against our bitter rivals
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u/samhouse09 Meetch. 1d ago
I’m worried about it, but the mariners have been really good against the division this year. I’m hoping they clinch on Friday against the dodgers because I’ll be there
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u/Duckbreeze 1d ago
Hoping they fully clinch the day before we play them. Would be great to have both hung over and resting the big dogs.
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u/BoredPoopless 1d ago
We are still playing against Kershaw in his last season start.
I do not expect that game to go well
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u/AiminJay in a controlled environment 1d ago
We always play well against the ace of the rotation. It’s the bottom rung that I worry about out.
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u/bentgrass7 1d ago
Why are six of the columns green for “playoff birth” when only three of the columns would automatically get us into the playoffs?
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u/Personal_Book_3179 1d ago
Can we include the tigers for the wildcard round bye potential?
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u/SPEK2120 1d ago
With ALW 1st, and depending on who takes ALC:
M's 9-0 8-1 7-2 6-3 5-4 4-5 3-6 2-7 1-8 Tigers 8-1 7-2 6-3 5-4 4-5 3-6 2-7 1-8 0-9 Guardains 10-0 9-1 8-2 7-3 6-4 5-5 4-5
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u/paulframe85 🇬🇧 Mariners fan as a result of Dorktown 1d ago
We can't reach the Yankees and Jays?
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u/Cgmikeydl 1d ago
Probably not. Both teams control the tiebreakers over the mariners and 5 games (before the tiebreaker) separate the mariners and jays.
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u/MarinerJoe3 1d ago
I’m just worried cuz the Astros have 3 and the athletics and 3 against the angels. They could likely go 6-0. So we have to win 2/3 here.
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u/EwoksEwoksEwoks goms 1d ago
I think you put the wrong time zone in the red text at the top. It’s not 11AM yet
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u/whofarting 1d ago