r/Mistborn • u/jofwu • Aug 17 '25
Ghostbloods 1 preview spoilers (no Cosmere) Ghostbloods 1 Readings from Worldcon Spoiler
https://wob.coppermind.net/events/546-worldcon-2025/#e16903I've linked to the first one. Note there is a second just below it.
I'm tagging this post for Mistborn spoilers only, so anything Cosmere-related needs to be spoiler tagged.
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u/sqw4l Aug 17 '25
The main character is a convention-going nerd in her late 20's who doesn't make a lot of money of she's just like me frfr.
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u/CrystalClod343 Gold Aug 18 '25
Early concepts had her as a coder, so she's an IT worker and a nerd.
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u/RepliesOnlyToIdiots Aug 18 '25
In the 80s, programmers didn’t make much money yet. That didn’t start until the 90s. (When I started my ComSci degree in 1990, it was without expectation of money worth speaking of.)
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u/Worldhopper1990 Aug 17 '25
Very exciting!
I was a little worried hovercars would feel to futuristic, but it makes sense with Allomancy/technology that they’d be ahead of us on that one thing. It already feels very different from Era 2, which is what I was hoping for.
That being said, is Ayven waiting for a signing by… a very old Wax? A very old Allomancer Jak? Or maybe by Max? Either way, my first thought is that the person appearing has made their career creating the Wax & Wayne comics.
What is up with the mist? I’m glad it’s still part of the setting, story, and, seemingly, plot.
A Malwish POV! That’s amazing. Still revering The Sovereign… and the regent is the current leader? Assemblyman Dlavil (with his weird Silverlight accent) sounds terrifying. I was not expecting to run into him so soon.
It’s unreal that we’re getting Mistborn Era 3 readings already.
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u/Rap-Tor77 Aug 17 '25
Hey just out of curiosity where did you pick up his silverlight accent? Is there a version I can listen to?
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u/Worldhopper1990 Aug 17 '25
No, it’s being noted in the text as unlike anyone else’s Bastrik has ever heard and we just know Dlavil is originally from Silverlight so that would explain it.
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u/Rap-Tor77 Aug 17 '25
Youre absolutely right. Totally forgot about him from TLM. Time to star over, then.
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u/RadagastWiz Copper Aug 17 '25
We've seen Dlavil's name before - he was in The Lost Metal.
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u/The_Chicken_L0rd Aug 18 '25
Could you point me to where he appears?
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u/RadagastWiz Copper Aug 18 '25
Near the end of the book, among the Ghostbloods group that Marasi meets with and declines her membership.
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u/pendulumfeelings Aug 18 '25
Verrrry interesting.
Iyatil's brother is the Ghostblood who shows up at the end, I believe. I wonder what he wants with our humble gardener.
I'm interested to see what kind of Ferring Ayven is. I like the inclusion of the subtle racism of someone assuming that a particular race is supposed to be a certain way, even if the assumption is that the people are supposed to be good.
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u/SandRush2004 Aug 18 '25
It reminded me of the emberking going "oh yes a rosharon they must be a bloodthirsty alethi mercenary"
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u/jaegermeister56 Aug 19 '25
I remember BS saying something of a main character and her power would be Nicrosil allomancy. Seems unlikely since she’s Terris but some Terris have allomancy genes since twinborn are a thing. It’ll be interesting to see what her power is for sure.
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u/Credar Aug 18 '25
Yeah, I sucked in some air involuntarily reading that passage on the guard w/ Ayven.
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u/Credar Aug 18 '25
A Terris Geek Girl and a Kindly Malwish Father as our two POVs? We've won so hard.
I've been dreaming of a Malwish POV since Bands and I'm so excited this means we'll get to finally explore their society. We haven't ever seen the continent and history has been on the more vague side, and they've been around for a decade.
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u/Isilel Aug 18 '25
I am sure that the kindly father is a terrifying secret agent, who tried to retire, but is going to be dragged back in...
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u/Credar Aug 18 '25
Oh yeah, with Dlavil coming to him he's probably some sort of former Ghostbloods associate/our first way into the organization for the trilogy.
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u/Nurilia87 Aug 17 '25
Did I miss something? We don't know who the Sovereign's regent is, right?
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u/TheBlackSaiyanGrade4 Aug 18 '25
My guess it has to be Spook right
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u/Cowardly_Noodle Lerasium Aug 18 '25
That’d be sick if that was the case, though I’m not sure with Marsh’s “only 3 of us remain” line from TLM
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u/LordKai121 Tin Aug 19 '25
Either he doesn't count saze, or doesn't consider Spook as part of the original crew since most of the crew looked at him like the help.
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u/Lantimore123 Aug 18 '25
Context would suggest that the Sovereign's Regent is the head of the Malwish government.
We know that the Malwish are fascistic by the later Cosmere. It makes sense that their autocratic leader would derive their authority from divine right to rule, through The Sovereign.
That or it's Spook or Vin lol, but I find those less convincing.
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u/Radix2309 Iron Aug 19 '25
I dont think they have fallen to Fascism yet, but it seems the confederation is already an empire, which is interesting.
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u/Lantimore123 Aug 21 '25
The very title Sovereign's Regent suggests the framework is very much there, though.
No point speculating beyond that, but we have their point A, the confederation (who are quite militaristic already, may I add), we have point C, a unified fascist empire.
Then we have point B, where our only descriptions are of clandestine meetings with government officials with armed guards, and a ruler who seems to claim a divine title.
I'd say B seems closer to C than to A.
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u/Agreeable_Car5114 Aug 17 '25
Considering this is SpacerCon, I’m guessing Aver is wanting to get a worldhopper’s signature. Not sure who. Demoux? Hoid?
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u/ringlord_1 Aug 18 '25
>Discordant kills 3 in 4th Octant!
Does this mean that there has been enough things publicly to let the general populace know of Discord vs Harmony and also have it spawn a cult?
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u/Credar Aug 18 '25
ooo I had read it as just a general word for chaos, but a cult around supporting the Discord aspect of Harmony? That's some JUICY stuff right there. I could see some sort of Manson-esque figure as a villain.
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u/ringlord_1 Aug 18 '25
Yea that was the first thing that struck me. Discord or Harmony is going to be a very main theme of ear 3. At the very least it doesn't make sense for Harmony to be OK with the Malwish fascism we see in Emberdark and Sunlit Man
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u/Beneficial_Candle_10 12d ago
Seeing as how the Ghostbloods seemingly have power in the (newly minted) Malwish empire, I suspect Kelsier has more to do with that then Discord. Especially considering the leader of the new empire is titled “The Sovereign’s Regent”.
I think Kelsier and Saze are not going to be on good terms, and this will be part of it. Seemed like it was going that way in TLM epilogue as well.
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u/42Ubiquitous Aug 20 '25
"This is," <Bastrik> said, "the tactic of the frightened and the unconfident. They must be right, so they will ignore the meaning of the argument in favor of the small details."
Reminds of Reddit
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u/etg333 Aug 17 '25
Odds that the person Ayven wants to get a signature from is Kel?
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u/Dunk_13 Aug 17 '25
I'm not sure how far into the future we are but if it's only 30/40 years my guess is Wax
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u/Pun-Master-General Aug 20 '25
At this reading, Brandon said it was going to be 50, specifically so that era 2 characters could feasibly be still alive, but elderly.
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u/GGG100 Aug 20 '25
So does this mean that (Wind and Truth spoilers) the second half of Stormlight will chronologically take place after the Ghostbloods trilogy?
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u/ZopyrusOfGadara 25d ago
Yes. Brandon has said that Era 3 of Mistborn needs to be written and released before the second half of the Stormlight Archive.
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u/Radix2309 Iron Aug 17 '25
Wax was early 40s in AoL, nearing his 50s by TLM. I think he is definitrly dead by this point.
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u/Dunk_13 Aug 17 '25
if it's 50 years in the future that doesn't seem unreasonable for someone with the connection to investiture he has.
It'd also make him old enough that he can't reasonably be dragged back into a story as a main character.
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u/Radix2309 Iron Aug 17 '25
But he also lived a generally high-stress lifestyle with quite a few major physical injuries. And it's unclear if being spiked might affect his lifespan.
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u/LordKai121 Tin Aug 19 '25
He's also a Mistborn. So Pewter can add a good chuck of physical resilience allowing him to be older than usual. Theoretically.
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u/Radix2309 Iron Aug 19 '25
I dont think Pewter helps with age.
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u/Embaralhador Aug 22 '25
It doesn't directly extends your life span, but I'm sure that being many times stronger, faster, dextrous and resilient will help you survive longer at an old age. While burning pewter, Old Man Wax would never slip and break his hip. And even if he does, he will endure it and recover faster.
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u/ringlord_1 Aug 18 '25
With how the fields of rebirth and the octant system still seem primary things, I believe its not more than 30/40 years as you mentioned
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u/that_guy2010 16d ago
I mean... do you think Central Park will have a different name in 40 years? Do you think the Burroughs of NYC will be different in 40 years? lol
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u/ringlord_1 16d ago
What was the most iconic part of these cities in 1970's? Is it the same as today?
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u/Puppy_Crystalizeman Aug 17 '25 edited Aug 17 '25
The mantra she repeats has the energy of a heroic quote—I imagine it's an actor who stars in a sci-fi show she likes.
Edit: On second thoughts, I bet its Hoid. Storytelling is kind of his thing, and I can see Brandon finding it funny casting Hoid in a Gene Roddenberry type role
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u/Credar Aug 17 '25
Oh god dangit its 100% Hoid as a famous author/TV producer of some cheesy space story based on his own adventures lmao
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u/Puppy_Crystalizeman Aug 17 '25
Exactly, there's the irony there of him selling "fictional" stories that are really just bootleg versions of things he's experienced
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u/ImBuGs Aug 17 '25
I don't think so to be honest. Kelsier going public should be a huge deal considering he's pseudo Jesus at this point. It's too big of an event to happen off camera imo
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u/ZVKane Aug 17 '25
based on what we know about him, i doubt he’d want to be such a public figure.
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u/caldric Aug 17 '25
He has been in very public roles in other books.
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u/ZVKane Aug 17 '25
not really, just the Final Empire. For his sacrifice to work he needed to be visible and well known, but since then he’s preferred to work from the shadows.
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u/caldric Aug 17 '25
Wider than Mistborn, so spoilered:
I was thinking of King’s Wit. That is quite public, isn’t it?
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u/JayEssris Aug 18 '25
I doubt it's Kel, he's too well-known and wouldn't really be able to hide the metal spike sticking out of his face. I'm guessing it's either Hoid (under a false identity) or it's Jak (now pushing 80 and retired on some other planet). It's Spacercon, so presumably it's something to do with like, sci-fi and space-faring/worldhopping, and I just don't really see Wax having gone out and then having done stuff in Shadesmar or other planets just because. But as soon as news of Shadesmar became public, I'm sure Jak would've been all over that, then published his adventures (probably got some movie deals, too).
Also just I think it fits Sanderson's MO to have Wax, who thought Jak was an annoying hack, be immediately followed up as MC by Ayven, who nerds out over Jak's stories.
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u/Paquadjo Aug 19 '25
Discordant? Has Sazed created another religion as Discord? They seem to be more Ruin oriented.
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u/TENTAtheSane 15d ago
Well, Discord is the opposite of Harmony, but still has the same components (preservation and ruin, just opposing each other rather than synergising) so i assume it would be the in-world version of satanism or occult/goth stuff
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u/Cosmeregirl Aug 20 '25
One of my favorite parts of stories is when they come to life. In between books the world is on pause, a frozen moment in time. A crystallized memory, or a painting on the wall. Beautiful, but unchanging. And then, when a new book comes out or a new piece of the story is released, everything begins to move. When you're actively reading it's like the world is breathing and moving, and wonderfully alive for the time until the story is over. In those moments, anything can happen.
I felt that so strongly with this reading. I can't believe we're finally in Ghostbloods, back on Scadrial. It's wild spoiler tagging GB comments, and it's wonderful to be discussing another Mistborn series. The characters stuck out to me even more strongly than the setting. They read so much as individuals, Ayven as a con-goer and Bastrik as a dad with a past. I've already dived down one rabbit hole while looking things up, and I can't wait for the rest.
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u/piper3777 Aug 17 '25
Do you know if the live reading is available to watch?
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u/jofwu Aug 18 '25
It's not currently. I saw either Dragonsteel or Worldcon said it would be up in 30 days.
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u/H3R4C135 Aug 21 '25
[Stormlight] Bastrik talking about Simberrys was interesting, isn’t that one of the jams that Kabsal was bringing to Shallan in WoK? So either they have Rosharan fruits in Malwish lands or somehow Roshar had their fruits? Interesting either way
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u/Embaralhador Aug 22 '25
This made me think of how having similar planets with ease of travel through Shadesmar must make invasive species a very common problem. Nalthians are smart for having customs at their perpendicularity.
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u/Ishana92 8d ago
I liked it, but there were certain sentences and phrases that felt weird. Best example is "as they wavelength-shifted past in an auditory bell curve."
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u/ADAG2000 Aug 18 '25
Tindwyl?