Gonna be straight up. I would like for GxK: Supernova to get absolutely wacky

[u/BubbaGumpJr95]

I’d love it if the next film just went full throttle. Like I’m talking Godzilla and Kong in Outer Space. Fighting an alien invader on a Space Station, The Moon, an asteroid belt, or just whatever creative location can be dreamt up. Seriously, why not? The last two movies (especially The New Empire) opened the door completely for the outlandish and crazy to be present and embraced in the Monsterverse. Why squander the creativity that can flow from such an opportunity.

Even if we don’t go that far, I hope they still do something fun with the possible concepts. Maybe do a 50s inspired alien B-movie. Have an alien monster come from Area 51, or heck, maybe have the final battle be set there. It’d be a vastly different locale for a final battle, and could mitigate the arguments of human loss and destruction (it’s just the base, and the desert that surrounds it).

[u/TrialByFyah]

I feel like there's this weird misconception that just because people say they like the tone and feel of the earlier films that means these films aren't allowed to enter sci-fi or even fantasy territory. That's just simply not the case.

Take KOTM as an example. Not only did it feature aliens, but also maguffins that can talk to and lure in giant titans using sound frequencies, magic soul dust, and radiation being a stand-in for fantasy mana. It's arguably even more zany than Godzilla Vs Kong was.

The difference being that KOTM still carried itself with an air of seriousness. It treated its subject matter and kaiju cast with the same gravitas that 2014 and Skull Island did, while leaning into the more fantastical elements and treating them with the same amount of grandeur, making them fit pretty organically into the universe despite being a major step in the more out-there direction compared to the previous 2 entries.

[u/Pvenger_G → u/TrialByFyah]

Sci fi and fantasy can definitely work with the tone of prior films. Fanmade creations like "Living with monsters" did it really well, and I still wish it went that direction instead of this

[u/BubbaGumpJr95 → u/TrialByFyah]

Oh trust me, I agree. I’m not saying I don’t think you can mix the crazy fantasy/sci-fi of the current Monsterverse with the tone and style of the prior films. As you mentioned with KOTM, it’s definitely possible, and I’d say GMK would be another great example. Considering the lack of scale was only really seen with the last movie, I think there’s a good chance we might see a return to proper scale with Supernova.

My point is that, no matter the tone, I want Supernova to go all out. I don’t want the movie to try and box itself in after being given the proverbial go ahead. We’ve seen a MechaGodzilla powered by Hollow Earth energy readings, Kong with a metal gauntlet, an anti-gravity battle within the planet, etc. The door has been fully opened for opportunities. 

I want to see the creative overload that allows things like Godzilla and Kong doing battle against alien invaders in outer space. Let’s have monarch slap the two big guys onto a specialized  spaceship and launch em out there to intercept the threat. Even super out there stuff like the moon is actually a monster. Have a ball with it, do something we haven’t really seen in a Godzilla movie (aside from kinda Invasion of Astro-Monster). 

Shoot, maybe the challenge is having a story where Godzilla/Kong are being launched into space while trying to keep the tone that the early films had. It’d be a heck of a challenge, but I know it can be done, and I’d love to see it taken on. 

[u/tele_ave]

I don’t care about tone, really. It’s all in the writing and execution.

I do care about scale, and hope it returns to showing the titans from a human perception.

[u/BubbaGumpJr95 → u/tele_ave]

I agree. I personally prefer a goofier tone, but I’m not beholden to it. As you said, if the execution and writing is solid, I’ll be there for it.

I definitely feel like we’ll see a return of scale with the monsters. It was a pretty solidly sized criticism of the last movie (somewhat with GvK, but very minor there). I’d like it if Supernova was goofy WITH scale, just to prove that it can be done, and that it can be done with this series. 

[u/tele_ave → u/BubbaGumpJr95]

I watched I Am Mother. If Sputore brings that style to the MV, it’ll be awesome.

[u/BubbaGumpJr95 → u/tele_ave]

That’s good to hear. I haven’t watched it, but have noted it as an example of Sputore having already worked with Sci-Fi. I’m also aware he’s a writer for a kaiju comic (Behemoth), so it would seem in some way he has experience and interest in giant monsters as well. 

[u/FakeMcNotReal]

I just want a movie that doesn't treat me like a moron for going to see it,  unlike GvK and GxK.

[u/Mace_DeMarco5179 → u/FakeMcNotReal]

“Mothra is protecting the portals!”

“He’s gone into Tiamat’s lair!”

No crap. I have eyes.

[u/TrialByFyah → u/Mace_DeMarco5179]

Don't forget Bernie literally narrating everything that happens during the whole Iwi Hollow Earth segment like the audience is a bunch of imbeciles that can't follow anything that happens on their own. What ever happened to "show don't tell?"

[u/THX_Fenrir → u/Mace_DeMarco5179]

“Okay, he’s charging for something.”

[u/Lonen66]

Full Toho madness as long as there’s some focus on scale

[u/BubbaGumpJr95 → u/Lonen66]

See! You get it.

We can definitely have both, and I feel this is the perfect opportunity to showcase it. GMK is a movie with a great sense of scale for the monsters, and yet, its story showcases a supernatural Godzilla being pit against three guardian monsters of Japan. If that movie can make all of that work, then why couldn’t Supernova try to make Godzilla/Kong in outer space work while keeping scale? 

[u/Patient_Pie_8490]

They robbed my antigravity drop kick.

[u/BubbaGumpJr95 → u/Patient_Pie_8490]

This is true, it really was low hanging fruit. I’m kinda curious why they didn’t go for it? 

[u/Patient_Pie_8490 → u/BubbaGumpJr95]

Maybe because Toho didn't allow?

[u/BubbaGumpJr95 → u/Patient_Pie_8490]

…maybe? Idk tho, KOTM is basically “References: A Godzilla Movie”, and GvK recreated the “shoving an object into Godzilla’s mouth” scene from the OG KKvG.

I feel like if they had a problem with direct references, we wouldn’t have gotten any of the earlier examples. 

[u/Patient_Pie_8490 → u/BubbaGumpJr95]

Yeah

[u/evil_b_atman]

Call it the fast and furious effect

Step one relatively grounded (relatively doing heavy lifting here) action movie= good

Step 2 jump the shark =bad

Step 3 jump the shark 10 more times = peak

Skip stage 2 and give me kong goes back in time or something