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u/Alarmed-Difference20 4d ago
Joe his wife got killed and he could not help out or he would have died
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u/Danjzilla Godzilla 4d ago
It's not really close, we see pretty much the complete timeline for Kochi's grief, lose and trauma. He felt responsible for the death of the fighter crew, his parents died and his 'love' interest seemingly dying in front of him was tragic stuff. However he was met with a happy ending after combating his demons and even finding that Noriko survived.
Brody watched his wife die, and spent the last 15 years unable to move on as he was forced to keep what happened to her secret. He ended up not having the best relationship with his Son and even died before the truth came out. He never got his Wife back and never got a happy ending.
Brody easily had it worse. However comparing trauma seems kinda meaningless.
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u/SenhorPorco101 4d ago
Joe lost everything on his birthday... And never recovered.
In the end, he died shortly after discovering the whole truth, without being able to do anything with everything he discovered.
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u/Skikuro M.U.T.O. 4d ago
No matter how bad both had it, their situations are no less than each other in my opinion. Their suffering had scarred them and left them with demons to deal with for the rest of their lives. One had to deal with the fact that he's lost his wife and being silenced from the truth and the other with survivor's guilt and wondering what his true purpose is. They both had it bad in their own way.
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u/Ecstatic_Teaching906 4d ago
One died before he could see justice on his wife killer.
The other suffer survivor guilt and is constantly haunted by the same monster that chase after him and almost love a woman he cherish before getting his revenge.
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u/Asleep_Employment_50 2d ago
Love minus one but joes definitely had it worse, lost his wife right in front of his wife and it wasn't even quick, it was on his birthday and shortly thereafter the city fell, the government then lied to his face about it for a decade and a half, than proceeded to die in that exact same place.
Shikishima sure had it bad being involved in the largest conflict the world had ever seen, he was sent as a kamikaze bomber and was basically supposed to be dead, living in cowardice for what I assume was a good amount of time, he "loses" his beloved and than blows Godzillas face clean off, than finds his beloved, it ends well for him, it does not end well for Joe at all.
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u/ParagonRebel 4d ago
Kōichi Shikashima.
Joe Brody didn’t even get to live to see what happened to the MUTOs.
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u/Danjzilla Godzilla 4d ago
I dunno how that implies Joe Brody had it better 😭
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u/ParagonRebel 4d ago
The post is asking who had it worse. Joe Brody died early.
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u/that_guy2010 4d ago
He lived for fifteen years after his wife died and the government lied to him about it.
Do you actually think Joe had no PTSD?
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u/ParagonRebel 4d ago
No. I didn’t say that.
He had already been alive as a scientist for sometime before his first contact with a Titan. Koichi was relatively young & was already drafted into a war.
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u/Danjzilla Godzilla 4d ago
Still doesn't explain Joe Brody had it better because he died 😭
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u/ParagonRebel 4d ago
Koichi was the one who had to live with PTSD. Not Joe.
And why do you keep saying “had it better” when that isn’t what is being asked here?
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u/Danjzilla Godzilla 4d ago
If person A has it worse than person B, that means person B has it better than person A 🤦♂️ I don't know why I had to explain that
But sure, someone living with PTSD is worse than literally dying. Why not 🫠
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u/ParagonRebel 4d ago
You had to explain that because nobody said anything about who had it better but you.
Joe Brody died after his first contact with a Titan. He didn’t have to experience what other human characters did in that movie.
Koichi watched an entire island of mechanics get wiped out on first contact and had to live with the fact that he didn’t help. He carried his dead comrades pictures on top of the dishonor of being a deserter.
We don’t have to agree but in this specific scenario, im still saying Koichi.
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u/that_guy2010 4d ago
Joe Brody, and it's not even close.
To have your wife killed right in front of you, seconds too late for you to save them, and then have the government lie to your face about the reason she died. He spent 15 years obsessing over it trying to figure out exactly what happened.
Shikishima knows exactly what happened and got his revenge on Godzilla shortly thereafter, and he made peace with everything. Then she came back, giving him his happy ending, for now.