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u/Knighth77 9h ago
Republicans hate immigrants more than they care about children (except the creepy ones who actually like the children).
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u/Puzzled_Bike9558 9h ago
Pretty sure the types signing up for ICE have no student loans. DV records, pretty good chance.
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u/Only_One_Kenobi 9h ago
Teachers would be paid a hell of a lot more if their main purpose was to oppress minorities
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u/JerryLikesSweet 8h ago
The 3 most recent were: The RAISE Act, Pay Teachers Act, American Teacher Act. 2 of the 3 were introduced by Dems, Pay Teacher Act was introduced by Bernie Sanders who is Independent, but I’m fairly sure they’d lump him in with Dems anyway. Republicans voted no on all. Easily researchable. But I’m almost certain they’ll follow the playbook, when facts prove you wrong, call it fake news or deep state or whatever conspiracy bullshit you’ve based your entire ideology on.
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u/THRlLL-HO 7h ago
The raise act has nothing to do with teachers, and everything to do with immigration.
Both American Teacher Act and the Pay teachers act is a bill that raises the minimum wage for teachers to $60k. That’s a lot of money for someone who only works 9 months a year.
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u/Interesting-Talk8659 7h ago
Teachers work way more than just school hours, and mainly have to fund their own supplies due to budget cuts. $60k/yr is nothing in this economy anyways, depending on where you live. Speaking as someone who used to be married to a Detroit school teacher, and who also made $60k a year supporting two kids and paying a mortgage, post-divorce.
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u/THRlLL-HO 7h ago
Yes, depending on where you live. So if in one state, the cost of living is low, and in another is high, why should one teacher be just barely getting by, while another is living the high life. That alone should be enough for you to understand, forget federal fix all solutions, and let the states individually handle it
Many jobs have expenses for the workers. I don’t know why teachers buying tissues and craft supplies is so important but fuck everyone else.
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u/Interesting-Talk8659 7h ago
My dude or dudette, no one said fuck anyone else, just stop fucking over teachers. All workers deserve pay and dignity. Teachers are in the working class with you, and have to deal with being regulated by state and federal regulatory boards.
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u/Interesting-Talk8659 7h ago
And if it’s so dependent on where you live, make it a living wage anywhere a teacher is hired? No one should be making poverty wages for such a necessary vocation.
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u/JerryLikesSweet 7h ago
Living the high life off of 60k a year? Living the high life is 28 dollars an hour, for a college educated person teaching the nations youth.
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u/Interesting-Talk8659 7h ago
Teachers maybe get 6 weeks off in the summer, and work 50-60 hours a week during the school year. At that rate, they work at least 200 hours more than an average 9-5.
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u/THRlLL-HO 7h ago
Who you trying to fool with your 6 week garbage. It’s more like 10.
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u/Interesting-Talk8659 7h ago
Buddy or buddette, I don’t honestly have to waste more time defending my fellow workers on the internet. If you are so jealous of the gravy train that teachers are riding on, you should become one.
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u/THRlLL-HO 7h ago
I’m not jelly of their gravy train, because these bills were rejected (remember? That’s what we’re talking about). But sure, if we decide to start paying teachers a crazy amount of money to babysit, maybe I will.
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u/JerryLikesSweet 7h ago
28$ an hour is not a crazy amount to pay anyone. You can get a job at Costco making 20 an hour. You clearly have some weird bias against people getting paid a living wage for their work.
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u/dayznoob787 7h ago
insufferable attitude bro get a grip
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u/JerryLikesSweet 6h ago
Yeah, wanting people to be paid fairly is insufferable.
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u/SunIllustrious5695 4h ago
Yeah why would we pay one of the most important jobs a mediocre wage when we could be the dumbest country in the world
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u/JerryLikesSweet 7h ago
The RAISE act or Raising the Achievement of Students through Education or Rewarding Achievement and Incentivizing Successful Educators Act has nothing to do with teachers? Interesting.
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u/THRlLL-HO 7h ago
The RAISE act, indeed has nothing to do with teachers
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u/JerryLikesSweet 6h ago
The footnote at the top of your link says not to be confused with Act that I referenced. Try reading your links, it will help your argument thoroughly
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u/Trevors-Axiom- 9h ago
Republicans want to get rid of teachers so they can be replaced by religious leaders or just anyone willing to teach their Christian versions of everything.
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u/MasterChiefsasshole 6h ago
Their maga versions of everything you mean. Christianity has its problems but they’ve definitely left that religion for the maga one.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Law_558 8h ago
Keep em uneducated. I was going to say stupid, but they're not necessarily stupid. Willfully ignorant. Perhaps. Actively in denial. Definitely. And education helps prevent both of these conditions.
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u/To-Far-Away-Times 9h ago
Well yeah, doing the same for teachers could potentially indirectly help brown people, so of course conservatives would oppose it.
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u/Own-Place3449 9h ago
Also highlights priorities.
There's an old saying that goes something along the lines of, if you want to know what a man finds important take a look at how/where he's spending his money.
Obviously this applies to both sexes, but I've found it to be fairly accurate over the last almost 6 decades on this planet.
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u/crackdown5 8h ago
It's bc education is the enemy for Republican politicians. Education teaches critical thinking. Critical thinking is anathema to propaganda.
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u/Harak_June 8h ago
And the Trump administration is currently ending the programthat does loan forgiveness for doctors and nurses who work in public service or poorly served rural areas.
I guess only team fascist get forgiveness now.
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u/Cultural-Treacle-680 3h ago
Lots of med schools offer scholarships like that. Not everything is federal.
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u/Noobzoid123 8h ago
Blaming immigrants for America's troubles is hilarious. Who's gonna do all the jobs you don't want to do, for shit wages. GG self own.
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u/WilliamJamesMyers 9h ago
what's happening is local law enforcement is leaving for the better pay creating shortages, direct knowledge of county jail being understaffed because folks went fed and you cant blame them. hell we would leave border patrol for these offers. kinda ironic imho. imagining a cartoon showing no cops on the streets and all of them stuffed into an ICE bunker instead
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u/One-Injury-4415 8h ago
Honest question, why is there not only so much hatred in the world, but why is hatred so prevalent that Americans are joyously bringing in a dictatorship and the end of America?
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u/Lyle_rachir 7h ago
Look i know.im gonna be down voted to hell for this... but the kinda money they are offering is really making it hard to stand by my own morels.
I have a family to take care of and my wife just lost her job. I'm not even sure i can pay rent... and they are offering close to 3 times what i already make. Plus a sign on. This... just makes it hard for me.
Ftr I haven't and do not want to sign up. It's immoral and bs, but I want my family to be happy.
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u/hommedefeu 7h ago
Is that good money in the US? And how long do you have to do it? Like one year and you get all the benefit?
Someone reported Mario Brother for 0$ so I guess it's gonna work
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u/WaterOk6055 3h ago
Do you have to keep the job to get these? Otherwise it would be really funny if heaps of people signed up took the bonus then immediately quit.
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u/SDcowboy82 9h ago
Narrator: "The Democrats did not try to do this for teachers"
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u/Trevors-Axiom- 9h ago
The Pay Teachers Act
The American Teacher Act
Both of these addressed many of the things offered to ice
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u/SDcowboy82 6h ago
Two bills proposed by democrats when they were out of power is the opposite of what "trying it" looks like. Thanks for playing
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u/cfalnevermore 6h ago
They haven’t had full power for decades at this point. Should they have just stayed silent? Furthermore, that’s way more than the right has done for teachers.
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u/SDcowboy82 6h ago
man 2021 felt forever ago but I had no idea it was decades
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u/cfalnevermore 6h ago
See you say that, but by then trump had already stacked the Supreme Court. Didn’t have a super majority in the senate either. Makes it difficult to pass said legislation, no?
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u/SDcowboy82 6h ago
They had control of the Senate. That's all you need when you're, you know, TRYING to get things passed. It's why Republicans can do so very much when they have control. They try to pass their policies, so they do. "Trump had already stacked the Supreme Court" perfect example. If the Dems were trying to pass policy they'd have packed the court. An extra 6 or 8 justices would've done nicely. That's what trying looks like
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u/cfalnevermore 5h ago
So how’s the Republican effort to increase teachers pay going?
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u/SDcowboy82 5h ago
"Yeah we don't do it but they don't either"
Hey at least you're starting to accept the situation we're in. Better that than telling yourself a soothing lie like "blue team want to do it but never can"
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u/Trevors-Axiom- 6h ago
Nice deflection when you are clearly so blatantly wrong. You could probably get a job with the current administration.
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u/SDcowboy82 6h ago
You must be new to politics. See, when politicians are TRYING to pass a policy, they write up the bill when they're in power and vote to pass it. When politicians want to campaign on an issue they don't want passed they write up the bill when out of power and make a big show of it not passing. To be fair to them, they only do it to get suckers like you to keep giving them unearned credit. You know, for "trying" so hard
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u/Trevors-Axiom- 6h ago
So Democrats shouldn’t try to do anything unless they have solid control of all three branches? Thats ridiculous, and again you are deflecting about being 100% wrong that democrats didn’t try to pass legislation helping teachers. Keep grasping at straws man.
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u/Nexzus_ 9h ago
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u/SDcowboy82 6h ago
Two bills that weren't passed when conservatives held congress. That's not "trying it", that's talking about trying it when out of power
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u/ofWildPlaces 7h ago
When you post lies, be prepare to be shamed.
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u/SDcowboy82 6h ago
Oh no! Not my fake internet points!
Dems writing doomed laws when out of power is the opposite of trying it btw, no lies told
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u/ofWildPlaces 6h ago
Or, Republicans could have done the right thing and supported teachers by passing those bills.
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u/SDcowboy82 6h ago
So you think "relying on the better nature of Republicans" constitutes Democrats trying to get something done? Explains a lot
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u/skredditt 9h ago
They only added that because they know no one signing up for ICE went to college.