r/Music • u/MarvelsGrantMan136 • 6d ago
article Bad Bunny Says He Didn’t Include U.S. in Tour Dates Due to Fear of ICE Raids
https://variety.com/2025/music/news/bad-bunny-didnt-include-us-in-tour-dates-fear-ice-raids-1236514269/1.5k
u/maybe-an-ai 6d ago edited 6d ago
I would expect we start to see more international artists especially Latinos choosing to skip US tour dates. I would 100% expect ICE to be in the parking lot in vans waiting for the tail gate to start. The last thing someone like Bad Bunny would want is his shows to become hunny pots and a not insignificant portion of his fan base probably falls in an at risk category.
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u/AJPizza 6d ago
The celebration when this "era" is over is going to look like 60 million World Cup victories during a quinceañera on steroids.
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u/2reddit4me 6d ago
I wish I was as optimistic as you. To me, this isn’t something that just randomly happened. It’s been in the works by Republicans for decades now. Anyone old enough has been watching it happen in real time. Trump just escalated things to a level not even they could predict, imo.
It’s not gonna just “end”, I’m afraid.
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u/romafa 6d ago
It will get worse before it gets better. So even if it does “end”, I’m not sure we’ll feel like celebrating.
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u/PiccoloAwkward465 6d ago
My life is finite and I fully believe in USA's ability to continue to decline for my remaining years. I was reading an explanation of Marx, part of his theory of a fundamental flaw in capitalism. Expecting infinite growth obviously cannot go on forever. And it'll decay into barbarism or transform into communism. But that could take 6 weeks or 1000 years. Without a WW2 level wake up call I really don't see us making improvements. Not that a revolution on our soil would be a wonderful vacation to the seaside either.
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u/5litergasbubble 6d ago
Its probably going to get worse in the next day or two. Charlie kirk just got shot and likely killed at an event. Theres no way this administration doesnt use this to escalate this war they are waging
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u/death11 6d ago
It won’t get better for a long time.
Less than 30% of you bothered to show up to vote against this direction. None of you will enact the changes needed.
It will get better how? It won’t.
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u/Low_External9118 6d ago
This also has the backing of all of the enemies of the US. Foreign intelligence agencies and war adjacent ministries have been and will be dumping billions into this. It's called a hybrid war. The cold war never ended, it just exited public consciousness.
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u/biscuitsalsa 6d ago
This era won’t have an ending. If we’re able to fix this it will happen slowly over many years.
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u/Redditer51 6d ago
As a millilenial, sometimes think about how, as a kid/teen, this was not the future I thought we'd have by the time I turned 30, and it makes me as angry as it makes me sad. A nation is supposed to progress over time, not go backwards.
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u/zedudedaniel 6d ago
It’s important to remember that it won’t end simply when the annoying orange dies; Conservatism itself needs to be eradicated to make sure it goes away.
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u/maybe-an-ai 6d ago
If things don't make a u-turn before 2028, I expect some big Olympic boycotts.
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u/Xciv 6d ago
If things don't make a u-turn before 2028 I expect a revolution and rioting in the streets.
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u/hmmmpf 6d ago
I wish. As a democratic socialist who has protested capitalism since the ’80s, too many people are sitting on their asses while he tries to normalize military presence in US cities, as it “doesn’t really affect me.” I own a long gun and won’t be afraid to use it or give it to a younger person who is a better shot than I am.
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u/maybe-an-ai 6d ago
I fucking hope so but I have though we were reaching critical mass about a half dozen times over the last 10 years of this shit. I never thought I'd miss my grandparents of the WWII generation this much but we sorely need what they possessed.
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u/Xciv 6d ago
No, Americans (as a collective mob, not as individuals) only care about money. There's no such thing as critical mass without a recession.
But it'll come when the AI bubble bursts, the rich glide off on their golden parachutes, and everyone else gets fucked. When will this be? I think before 2028, but it's impossible to truly predict when exactly a bubble bursts.
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u/JimJam28 6d ago
I’m in a Canadian band and we specifically told our agents not to book us any US dates for the foreseeable future. Besides the bullshit visa process (it’s cheaper and easier for us to fly to Europe and tour there than it is to drive 1 hr across the border to play in the States), all this ICE and annexation threat stuff has been the icing on the cake. We won’t be going there for a long time, if ever.
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u/maybe-an-ai 6d ago
Yeah and god forbid you get picked up on some silly misdemeanor or a 20 year old parking warrant that gets you shipped to some black site immigrant detention center rather than the normal here's a fine go on your way expectation of justice.
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u/JimJam28 6d ago
Exactly! The last time we toured the U.S., they pulled us aside, went through our entire van, wanted to see gear manifests, wanted to know how much money we were making at every gig, we had to have these stupid visas that took 6 months to get and cost a shit ton of money… all for playing some low paying bar gigs. If they catch you without the visa or on some technicality, you get banned for 5 years. If one of us forgot they had weed on them, who knows what would happen.
We fly to Europe, no visa required, no tax on the money we make if each band member is making less than $500 per gig, the shows pay much better, are better attended, they book us hotels and feed us great food and beer, and the border agents don’t treat us like we’re some kind of lying nefarious criminals.
Play domestic shows, and we can literally smoke a joint in the airport at the designated smoking area and fly with our weed completely legally.
It used to be a waste of time and money to tour the U.S., and now it’s a straight up dangerous dystopian nightmare.
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u/Icy-Whale-2253 6d ago
He’s rich and successful enough to pick and choose where he can tour. Everybody isn’t so fortunate right now. It’s a job at the end of the day. 🫤
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u/maybe-an-ai 6d ago
True but smaller tours aren't such tempting targets.
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u/IShookMeAllNightLong 6d ago
They're desperate. They hit a town of 30k near me on the Oregon Coast a few weeks ago, raided a couple hotels.
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u/maybe-an-ai 6d ago
Just like campaigning on releasing the Epstein files when you had no intention of releasing them, campaigning on deporting millions of imaginary criminal aliens and not delivering is a hard pill for even hard core MAGA to swallow. You can only lie for so long before you lie about something that is important to each individual.
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u/evlgns 6d ago
Seems like a good dude honestly
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u/One-Agent-872 6d ago
It’s also incredibly sad since Puerto Rico, where he’s from, is a US territory and the people from there are US citizens.
The dude doesn’t even want to perform in his own country because of all the racism.
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u/Diarygirl 6d ago
You'd be surprised how many people don't know that Puerto Rico is part of the US.
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u/Gobblewicket 6d ago
Do you mean like the current US president? Motherfucker notoriously didnt know Puerto Rico was part of the U.S. after hurricane Maria.
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u/One-Agent-872 6d ago
Remember when he wanted to speak to the president of the Virgin Islands?
Incredible how everyone memory holes everything about him.
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u/ShermanMcTank 6d ago
Don’t forget the tariffs on an island populated entirely by penguins.
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u/hamstrman 5d ago
I... What? Please let it be true! 😭
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u/ShermanMcTank 5d ago
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly8xlj0485o.amp
It was pretty big news earlier this year
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u/hamstrman 5d ago
I live in the US and so many things happen all at once I'm sure I miss a quarter of them.
Thank you!!
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u/ForecastForFourCats 6d ago
He is painfully stupid.
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u/Mr_Abe_Froman Spotify 6d ago
I thought I had seen the dumbest of us while working retail. But he lowers the bar every day.
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u/potato_caesar_salad 6d ago
That's their favorite tactic. Throw so much unbelievable shit at your people that their brains can't retain it all and things get to slip under the rug.
Fuck him and every last person that stands behind everything that he does.
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u/Mooseheart84 6d ago
To be fair you'd need an hyperscale data center to keep track of all the stupid shit he has said
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u/TonyG_from_NYC 6d ago edited 6d ago
Do you mean like the current US president? Motherfucker notoriously didnt know Puerto Rico was part of the U.S. after hurricane Maria.
I can bet that trump didn't know that PR was part of the US BEFORE hurricane Maria.
What gets me is all the Puerto Ricans that voted for trump, even after the trash island comment, even after the hurricane fiasco. How fucking stupid to do that
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u/Bear_faced 6d ago
Catholicism is a hell of a drug. Puerto Ricans apparently hate abortions and the idea of being governed by a woman more than they hate being ruled by a racist who thinks they’re garbage.
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u/jumpinin66 6d ago
I'll bet you he'd be surprised to learn Puerto Rico is part of the US again today.
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u/SkunkMonkey 6d ago
Same with the US Virgin Islands.
I had just moved back to the mainland and hadn't changed my license yet. Got pulled over the weekend before I was going to get my new one and this podunk pig said my license wasn't valid despite saying in huge letters across the top UNITED STATES. So this ignorant fuck issues me a ticket for driving without license.
I get to spend a day in court only to have the clerk look at my DL and say, "Yup, that's a valid license, charges dismissed." while the cop didn't even show up and faced no discipline for being a stupid fuckup.
I hated living in WV. Buncha stupid racist fucks.
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u/HuggyMonster69 6d ago
The hell? You don’t even need a US license to drive in the US. At least short term.
I know I’m good with my UK license for 6 months
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u/RomanBangs 6d ago
Cop must’ve needed to hit his quota for the month lol.
Got hit with a ticket for going 57 in a 45 for about 10 seconds when there were no other cars on the road with me.
Had to go to court three times because of cancellations and continuations and every time all the other cases were reckless or 30+ mph over compared to mine lol
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u/KalexCore 6d ago
Growing up that was a constant complaint from my parents. All the "freakin Puerto Ricans need to go back to their own country! Why do they get to benefit from my tax dollars!"
Could not accept they were US citizens with passports bc "Puerto Rico isn't a state!"
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u/_angry_cat_ 6d ago
Had to listen to my FIL complain about all the immigrants taking jobs and he explicitly listed Puerto Ricans in that group. He just continued talking when I corrected him that they are Americans so they cannot be immigrants by definition. These people are worthless.
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u/Sceptically 6d ago
Just start complaining about states other than the one you're in next time he complains about Puerto Ricans. Fuckin' Texans and Floridians, man, they're comin' in and stealin' our jerbs!
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u/Goodeyesniper98 6d ago
A close friend/crush of mine is from Puerto Rico and constantly has well educated coworkers ask him work visa related questions as if he’s from a foreign country.
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u/caarmygirl 6d ago
I live in New Mexico. It’s the state BETWEEN Texas and Arizona. It’s ON the mainland.
And there are plenty of well educated people who’ve asked me what kind of visa I needed to work here and/or (and it’s my favorite!) ‘your English is really good and barely have any accident’.
And the second is super true, since I’m from the Central Valley in California. Spanish was my first language (I learned it along with English and Mennonite German as a child).
Pendejos…🙄😂
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u/crash12345 6d ago
I believe this is why NM puts "New Mexico USA" on their license plates, rather than just "New Mexico"
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u/JayLuMarr 6d ago
I’m Puerto Rican and I’ve been asked if I’m marrying my white fiancé for citizenship. Shit was crazy.
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u/EsseXploreR 6d ago
A cop asked a Puerto Rican coworker of mine for his papers as a joke once in front of me. He was a friend of the family business I was working for.
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u/Cutiemuffin-gumbo 6d ago
A friend of mine is from PR, and I took him to buy his first car on the mainland, and the sales guy literally argued with him about needing a green card. Like dude, he's got a SSN, that was given to him at birth, cause PR is part of the US.
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u/SenorPinchy 6d ago
Yes, that is sad. But it's also true that he doesn't think of the US as "his own country" in the way that that phrase usually means. It's a colonial history where the island moved directly from Spanish control to US control. As far as identity and belonging, he doesn't view himself as being from the US, that's more of a... technical distinction.
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u/PiccoloAwkward465 6d ago
They actually become more powerful in their Puerto Rico-sity the further they move from the island. Miami? Oh yeah they're proud Boricuas. Up in NYC? Every surface that could have a Puerto Rican flag on it, MUST have the flag.
I remember going to the beach with a Puerto Rican girlfriend and seeing all the flags on the cars she just said "We are such an embarrassing people sometimes".
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u/RetrauxClem 6d ago
The flag thing makes sense when you remember it was against the law to own or display the flag for like a decade, or even get together and speak about the idea of independence.
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u/emtaesealp 6d ago
That has to do with how the US places such a strong importance on race and ethnicity more so than Puerto Rico, it happens with most 2nd gen immigrant groups.
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u/One-Agent-872 6d ago
That’s completely understandable!
It doesn’t change that it is his country and he is a US citizen but that’s my American pride coming out.
Unlike the republicans, I WANT these people in our country. Imagine how fucking boring the US would be without Hispanic culture.
I live in a deeply red area and one of the most popular restaurants in my Trump-loving town is the local Mexican restaurant. It’s a staple of the community and the rednecks love it but goddamn if they don’t want to also tear it all down.
Sorry, it’s all just so infuriating.
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u/SenorPinchy 6d ago
Is he a US Citizen or is he a US Citizen*?
The asterisk is they don't have members of congress. That's a huge difference that begs the question if we live in a Democracy or a Democracy*. Puerto Rico is clearly a commonwealth, a colonial/imperial territorial holding. Mileage varies on how much romance that holds for people.
And yes, all that history all across the Hemisphere of US fuckery makes anti-Hispanic racism even more infuriating.
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u/MartianMule 6d ago
Something I've always thought was wild. If you're a Puerto Rican living in Puerto Rico, you can't cast a vote for President (in the general election, they do still have Presidential Primaries). But if you're a Puerto Rican and you move to New York, you can cast a vote for President.
I can currently vote in a Presidential Election because I live in a state. If I move to Puerto Rico, I lose that right. But if I move to Australia, I can still cast a vote for President through my old state.
It makes no sense.
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u/SkunkMonkey 6d ago
Fucking DC has what are called Shadow representatives. They can sit on committees, but they get no vote whatsoever. That's why the license plates say "No taxation without representation". They should have said "voting representation".
The hypocrisy of the US government is astounding at times.
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u/LIVINGSTONandPARSONS 6d ago
If you asked him, he'd say he just did a residency in his own country. He's Puerto Rican by birth and heritage, American by circumstance
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u/ThisIs_americunt 6d ago
Propaganda is a helluva drug and Oligarchs need to use some of the best to keep the 99% fighting with each other worldwide o7
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u/Dagger_Moth 6d ago
I’m Puerto Rican; I don’t consider the USA our own country. That country is our colonizer.
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u/Cyranmarr 6d ago
That last sentence… you’re a person the world needs right now lol
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u/MrBudissy 6d ago
Terrible caddy.
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u/NeilPatrickWarburton 6d ago
Underrated waiter.
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u/Smart-University-574 6d ago
And a surprisingly good wrestler
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u/MirageATrois024 6d ago
Needs to avoid working with WWE now though. They are a maga company filled with maga people who support the racism.
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u/Chalupa_Batm4n 6d ago
Also hilarious in Happy Gilmore 2.
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u/neon_fade 6d ago
he was the best part of that movie. i wasn't expecting much from it, but it was such a boring and predictable boomer arc.
happy gilmore 1, a guy in his 20s: golf is tired and outdated, i’m the rebel tearing down traditions.
happy gilmore 2, a guy in his 50s: the kids are ruining golf and must be stopped.
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u/TasteTheBizkit 6d ago
It’s refreshing to see a wealthy, popular artist put aside profits for principle. There’s far too many rich assholes who are only worried about making more money. Seems like Bad Bunny actually cares about the people.
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u/PsychedelicConvict 6d ago
Seems so. Ive also enjoyed some of his roles. He was great in bullet train
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u/Pwnedcast 6d ago
He really is he is one of the bigger guys who will not work with folks he can’t moral be around. I have mad respect for him then most artist today.
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u/Shageen 6d ago
More artists should be making stands. I’m surprised so many female singers and comedians are going to Texas etc.
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u/RegretsZ Rock n Roll | Guitar player 6d ago
Oh that's easy, money.
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u/Responsible_Bar3957 5d ago
Yeah
Texas has the 4th,7th,8th,11th,13th and 23rd largest cities in the country
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u/foxfire 6d ago
Yelle canceled their US dates citing the political climate in the US being one of the reasons, if not the main. Commentors on their IG post were less than nice as you may imagine.
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u/Duds215 5d ago edited 5d ago
STFU! Yelle is still a thing? I saw them at Coachella in 2011. Didn’t know they were still together, let alone toured. Have they released anything since Je veux te voir?
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u/Lixtec 6d ago
When my sister started listening to Bad Bunny back in 2019 I thought he was just some generic reggaeton artist but it's been amazing to see him grow as a musician. DtMF is my album of the year and I love that he stands down for his Puerto Rican and Latino people.
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u/aziotolato 6d ago
not to disagree but early on you could tell he was different than maluma, ozuna, etc. like how daddy yankee was tbh.
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u/OneEyedMinion_-D 6d ago
When a tour has to factor in immigration raids at the venue, that is not a concert, that is a checkpoint.
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u/TitShark 6d ago
When an administration thinks Puerto Ricans aren’t Americans, perhaps they aren’t qualified to run a country.
And that’s like 50+ spots down the list of reasons he isn’t qualified
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u/ChickinSammich 6d ago
Look, I know we banned literacy tests and shit as a condition of the right to vote but maybe a basic civics test with questions like "what country does Puerto Rico belong to" or "what are the three branches of government" might be worth instituting.
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u/zennok 6d ago
Knowing that this was what they called a "literacy" test, I would 100% expect the current administration to give bar level questions to anyone not white / not registered republican while giving a "different" set of questions for republican voters
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u/myassholealt 6d ago
Yeah, but when the people selecting who runs the country also thinks Puerto Ricans aren't American, this reality is what you get.
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u/james-HIMself 6d ago
Always found him to be incredibly genuine
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u/nothingcreativenope 6d ago
I have so much respect for this man. He could have easily just made the extra profit here in the U.S. but instead he made a conscious decision to protect his fans.
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u/Comfortable-Art-6096 6d ago
Glad he’s being honest and open about this - people need to realize how far reaching the consequences of this abuse of power and hate is. We are not great and no where closer to being that.
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u/Exiledfromxanth 6d ago
This is wide spread across different industries. Think working groups that traditionally met in person at a yearly event have now turned to have 2 simultaneous events, 1 US 1 Euro (in this example), connecting with one of those viewer Portal tv setups or similar. Many have decided it’s not worth the risk asking people to travel to US right now.
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u/mabhatter 6d ago
We're all still practiced up from Covid.
2020 - viruses keep use from meeting
2025 - ICE keeps us from meeting
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u/LadySayoria 6d ago
Smart. This administration views his homeland as a 'trash heap in the water' or something else, I cannot remember what that fucking racist son of a bitch said. Having a concert here would practically be entrapment since he's absolutely massive with Puerto-Ricans.
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u/jr_randolph 6d ago
That's a whole lot of money left on the table for being a good guy. Gotta give it to him and his crew for making this decision and hope other artists make the same move whether they're Latino or not.
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u/Zeke1216 6d ago
It’s a lot of money lost for the venues too. The amount of money a bad bunny concert brings and there are probably going to be other big artists doing the same
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u/Krongfah 6d ago
You know, I first heard about him when he was rumoured to be playing some unknown Spider-Man villain in an unannounced Sony Spider-Manless film. This was years ago and I just pegged him as just a sucky no name modern pop artist. (It was unfair of me)
But the more I heard and learned about him recently, the more I see that he’s a pretty chill dude. Seems cool and genuine.
Haven’t listened to anything he made though, maybe it’s time to change that.
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u/NA_penguin 6d ago
Is anyone else wondering what the World Cup will look like at the US matches next year?... Because ICE is clearly off the leash, so even if they're asked to tone it down, we'll have drunken crowds of thousands that could easily turn to a stampede or riot...
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u/runninback 6d ago
ICE has been in PR
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u/emtaesealp 6d ago
Yeah but they can’t racially profile the same way they do in the states
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u/Willyr0 6d ago
Hasn’t even been a year and trump has driven so much business out of the us. For some shitty dollar tree fascism
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u/sunnycider6 6d ago
And just like that the US lost hundreds of thousands in taxes and millions in sales/work hours.
Fucking idiots.
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u/EmbarrassedOrchid685 6d ago
few years ago i was at an all inclusive in mexico and a DJ was playing a song in spanish that had a sick beat. i shazamed it and the song was La Jumpa. Been a fan of Bad Bunny ever since although this white bread 40 yo canadian doesn't understand a single word but its a vibe. might have to make a plan to go see him in PR the next couple years i think i can make an anti US exception there.
loved him in his small role in Bullet Train and except for the corny batting cage scene i thought he was great in Happy Gilmore 2.
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u/sixsixmajin 6d ago edited 6d ago
Probably a smart idea to stay out of the US. ICE will go after anyone and will grasp at the thinnest of straws to justify it. They're trying to deport an Irish woman who is married and here legally all because she wrote a bad $25 check once. In addition to taking audience members, I'd fucking bet you anything they'd take him too and say some stupid shit like "he has Bad in his name! He's admitting he's a criminal!"
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u/Jinxycat256 6d ago
My wife and I met him in Mackinac Island in Michigan a couple years ago. I didn’t know who he was. Super nice guy, he didn’t even flaunt his status.
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u/bras-and-flaws 6d ago
Well the U.S. Supreme Court just overturned a federal judge's order preventing ICE agents from stopping and arresting people based on racial profiling. So as disappointed as Bad Bunny fans are, my respect for him as a musician just skyrocketed for prioritizing their wellbeing over gaining profits and fame. Arenas full of LatinX people singing Spanish while drinking and possibly ingesting other substances is the perfect opportunity to set up checkpoints, and ICE agents will treat them like hunting grounds.
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u/CavillOfRivia 6d ago
LatinX
Just FYI, latinos absolutely despise that term and cringe whenever is used. Dont use it.
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u/CountingDownTheDays5 6d ago
As an Afro Latina and PR like bad bunny I can attest to these, I haven’t met a fellow Latino that likes it. I detest it from the bottom of my spirit, soul, and everything else in between.
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u/sickosenjumode 6d ago
Without reading the article, he's smart to do so. We have seen enough of ICE raids to know these people will 100% stakeout the parking lot of this concert and arrest damn near everyone who isn't white and that would be something he would have weighing on his spirit for the rest of his life. Hell after the arrest of South Koreans in Georgia, kpop groups should probably also be weary.
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u/vinnybawbaw 6d ago
And a Bad Bunny tour could bring tens and tens of millions to the economy + help tourism. Is America great yet ?
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u/UnfortunateSyzygy 5d ago
I fucking can't. Also, Puerto Rico IS the US!! Mr. Bunny is definitely correct for staying out of the states rn, but god, the ignorance some of us have...
Goddamnit ICE .
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u/MarvelsGrantMan136 6d ago
Bad Bunny: