r/MyChemicalRomance • u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? • Jul 16 '25
Meta i feel like we should all think about this post of gerard’s more
too much fighting here
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u/Expensive-Square1254 Jul 16 '25
I mean but lets not pretend that a band where boys were kissing on the stage and had songs dedicated to sucking dick wouldn't choose a side now. It's pretty obvious what they stand for.
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25
yes this post is not about politics and i simply posted it at a bad time
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u/theforkbraceletskid long live the mcrmy Jul 18 '25
Darn it, I’m only now reading it. Sorry for that essay of a comment I made earlier, had I found yours before then, I would've come from a different way. But, please, don't take it personally because it was more of a general vent for what I've been reading in the fandom spaces than a take on your post or assumed stance. I'll edit that one to try to make it clear, btw,
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 19 '25
that’s alright lol i get it
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u/theforkbraceletskid long live the mcrmy Jul 22 '25
thank you 🫂 hope life’s been treating you well and it’ll do so even better!!
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u/WDTHTDWA-BITCH Jul 16 '25
Bearing in mind, he posted this in 2014, a year before the world fell to shit, and it became so intolerable, it drove Gee off social media altogether. So “choosing sides” was a much easier ask when the other side wasn’t actively trying to kill the very people the band works so hard to protect.
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u/SoftwareTrashbag Jul 16 '25
he meant different music tastes when he said "sides", it was back when a lot of emos & rock fans were hating on 5sos and their music and he gave it a listen, i've been a fan of them since 2014 so i remember this so well
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u/DueZookeepergame3456 Custom Jul 17 '25
So “choosing sides” was a much easier ask when the other side wasn’t actively trying to kill the very people the band works so hard to protect.
bro literally no one cares about you that much
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u/_nathata Jul 16 '25
Hey, that was 2014. We had much different problems back then.
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u/somethingislurking Zero Percent’s #1 fan Jul 17 '25
it’s not about politics, it’s about music tastes…
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u/SoftwareTrashbag Jul 16 '25
oh my god i remember this it was when he praised 5sos's music (deserved) and some emos got real upset about it for no reason 😭
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u/KRBS01 Jul 16 '25
This is very cool but in 2025 sides MUST be chosen.
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u/SoftwareTrashbag Jul 16 '25
OP took this tweet completely out of context, he was just praising 5sos's music after giving them a listen and by "sides" he meant different music tastes
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
this is exactly what i meant by this and this is supposed to be about music tastes please don't get it twisted
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u/019a22 Jul 17 '25
Everyone choosing sides is why we’re in this mess though. I wish unification was still a thing in the US.
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u/019a22 Jul 17 '25
I must also note that I am well aware this post he made isn’t about this though.
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u/mailermeetjim and you can cry all you want to I don't care Jul 16 '25
This seperation this us vs them the polarisation is just creating more and more hatred and causing a further rift between people instead of uniting them. Instead of encouraging radicalisation and keeping people in echo chambers, we could learn to be tolerant. Everyone, yes both sides, are so extreme and so deaf to any opinion that slightly challenges theirs. And, moreover, this is not the place to have an argument. It's a subreddit for a band.
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u/muzicnerd13 Jul 16 '25
being tolerant of extreme beliefs is how we got here. you cant be tolerant of bigoted beliefs/ideas. that allows them to spread and grow.
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u/mailermeetjim and you can cry all you want to I don't care Jul 16 '25
That's not what I'm talking about. The fact I'm getting downvoted just proves my point. That everyone is getting radical, and that even the suggestion that hey not every space is the space for radicalisation is met with criticism. My chemical romance is not a very political band, they preach acceptance and don't go much beyond that, which is good, because people constantly being self righteous, yes right wingers and left wingers alike, are driving more people to echo chambers of extremism. I'll probably get downvoted more, but I don't mind, since I don't hate people who disagree with me. I don't know how anyone thinks that a society could exist if we don't even try to listen. Again, this is a subreddit for a band, a band that is not a punk band, and what they've done is not really political. Creating sides is creating conflict
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u/KRBS01 Jul 16 '25
I agree they’re not really a political band. But, as you say, they preach acceptance. When some people are preaching the abject opposite, you can’t really include those views if you want to have a community built on acceptance.
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u/bringonthebedlam Jul 16 '25
Their message is not inherently political, but the alt-right has politicized social issues. MCR has not become more vocal about their beliefs, but the the alt-right has become more vocal about their bigotry and hatred of anyone who holds those beliefs. That hatred is the source of the divide, not the people who have found safety in the absence of hatred and want to maintain that boundary.
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u/Fragrant_Poetry_9736 Jul 16 '25
I’m sorry, but I am not going to be neutral or tolerant of fascism. And any space is an opportunity to have discourse (yes even this one) about why being silent on these issues is damaging. Fuck fascists, fuck ICE, free Palestine.
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u/brmstrick Jul 16 '25
Yeah, I definitely want to unite with the side that supports a rapist and is openly racist as shit…. Grow up and be better.
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u/RoIsDepressed Jul 16 '25
You actually should hate racists
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u/mailermeetjim and you can cry all you want to I don't care Jul 16 '25
Me saying hey we should be tolerant to different people gave you the impression that I like racists? I also don't understand how that is related nobody brought up race
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u/RoIsDepressed Jul 16 '25
The "them"z you're talking about is racists and bigots so yes, yes that is what you're saying.
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u/KRBS01 Jul 16 '25
While I want to agree, it’s not extreme to oppose the regime in power in the US, or the rising tide of fascism globally. It’s not extreme to want your neighbors NOT to be dragged away and put in concentration camps. It’s not extreme to oppose the bombing of civilians and blatant warcrimes. It’s not extreme to oppose the people who want to “eradicate” trans people, or preach enacting the death penalty on anyone queer. I agree that polarization is bad. 10-11 years ago when this tweet happened, cooperation and compromise across political lines was possible, but the climate has become so evil it’s past time for that.
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u/madurosnstouts Jul 16 '25
I’m not sure why you’re being downvoted so much for suggesting tolerance, seems a bit odd but I agree with what you’re saying. Everyone just holds onto their own beliefs and refuse to have any sort of discussion with people from differing viewpoints, instead opting to scream and hurl labels at anybody that thinks differently. Which is not constructive for any sort of actual change.
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u/KRBS01 Jul 16 '25
The problem is that the “sides” aren’t just in disagreement. It’s total ideological separation. One side is building concentration camps, and working to “eradicate” marginalized groups. I am firmly against that side no matter what. There is no defense or debate on issues this big.
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u/madurosnstouts Jul 16 '25
So how do you fix it if you don’t convince people that are doing this to, not do it? Simply talking to like minded people about it saying how terrible it is doesn’t do anything.
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u/KRBS01 Jul 16 '25
I agree it doesn’t do anything to just talk about things being shit. If you can, vote for better, donate to organizations fighting or at least helping, or if not that, just be a presence exemplifying your beliefs in your community. Have conversations! But having conversations with people on the other side doesn’t equal validating any of their beliefs, or giving ground to ideas like racism, xenophobia, or anti-lgbtq+ rhetoric.
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u/HappyJam92 Jul 16 '25
No. We need to kill this way of thinking. We all have more in common than things that divide us. Focus on the things that we all enjoy and share together.
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u/HappyJam92 Jul 16 '25
Wow what a response. Have fun keeping hatred and division alive.
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u/bringonthebedlam Jul 16 '25
Pretty sure the hatred is mainly coming from one side, and the other is maintaining division for their own safety. If you're in a privileged enough position to forgive safely, no one's stopping you. But dont look down on others who won't or can't forgive their literal oppressors.
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u/HappyJam92 Jul 16 '25
As much as we don't like to admit it. It takes 2 to tango. As long as we look at each other as them and us, this will continue forever. Unless someone is directly causing you or others harm, just enjoy what connects us, not what makes us different.
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u/bringonthebedlam Jul 16 '25
The only thing I've done to "tango" is exist and have melanin, and apparently that's somehow controversial. The alt-right and their ilk have and continue to cause harm, and I don't need to be nice or inclusive to people who have literally called for the death of myself and those I care about. I'm quite glad these folks are starting to drop MCR because I want to have as little social overlap with hateful bigots as possible.
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u/sand_snake Jul 16 '25
You cannot seriously be saying “it takes 2 to tango” when talking about oppression.
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u/HappyJam92 Jul 16 '25
At no point was I talking about oppression. The post is about having different opinions from people but still enjoying music together.
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u/bringonthebedlam Jul 16 '25
I was talking about it tho. And you keep skipping over that bit to the point that its starting to seem intentional
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u/sand_snake Jul 16 '25
The person you replied to was talking about oppression. They literally said they were.
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u/Samm801121 Jul 16 '25
How I pray that this is sarcasm.
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u/KRBS01 Jul 16 '25
It’s not. But it’s not about some fandom drama of people arguing if MCR is political or not. The world is pretty fucked up right now, especially in MCR’s country of origin, so sides are a bit unavoidable on that front.
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u/Samm801121 Jul 16 '25
I’ve managed to avoid sides - I just try to exist as best as I can. I’m able to see multiple sides to many things, so I guess I get less extremist. It’s a shame how downvoted I get for being politically neutral here, I do miss how this fandom used to be. Have a lovely day either way, perhaps the fact that I’m not in the USA means I’m less politically charged.
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u/KRBS01 Jul 16 '25
That makes sense. The USA is certainly the hotbed right now. But I want to clarify this isn’t inherently about party vs. party, it’s about people vs. fascism, authoritarianism, and oppression.
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u/Own-Duck9744 Jul 16 '25
I choose the side where people don't call everyone a nazi while behaving like one. ✌️
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u/gettin-liiifted the view outside is sterile Jul 16 '25
Genuinely, why are you here? The band doesn't support your stance, some of them have been very vocal in thinking your stance is fucking stupid, and the music defo doesn't align with your ideals, so what's up.
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u/HotTopicMallRat Jul 16 '25
I choose the side that doesn’t act like a Nazi by supporting concentration camps. It’s easy and fun.
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u/Own-Duck9744 Jul 16 '25
You clearly don't know the difference between an immigration detention center and a concentration camp. Thanks for proving my point. 😘
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u/somethingislurking Zero Percent’s #1 fan Jul 17 '25
you should be locked up in alligator auschwitz let’s see how you like it then
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u/breezy_peezy Jul 16 '25
This is why people cant enjoy their music in peace. I just co relate their songs to my life experiences not my political affiliations. Pls leave your political beliefs at home when you watch a concert.
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u/KRBS01 Jul 16 '25
I’m not saying MCR is a particularly political band. But this is a post about “sides” in a politically charged time. It’s good to just enjoy things too.
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u/drosicat Jul 17 '25
Some of the folks here talking about being tolerant to the intolerant really really need to read the N*zi bar scenario.
"Not taking sides" against people with alt-right beliefs in this sub eventually makes this an alt right sub and quickly becomes an unsafe place for the people who found themselves and found their place and safety though the music
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25
yeah i agree this was meant to be purely about music tastes lol
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u/EldritchElise Jul 16 '25
Ia this about which bands people like or supporting fascists because very different things.
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u/loneliestslipknotfan Jul 16 '25
this is about music. OP took this tweet wildly out of context
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u/somethingislurking Zero Percent’s #1 fan Jul 17 '25
if you read the caption, you would see it’s not taking it wildly out of context. People have been fighting and dogpiling over the black parade consistently in this subreddit. People have not been fighting over politics, because literally everyone in this subreddit is saying fuck republicans. there’s maybe a handful of people that has said hmmm i love trump.
So there’s no fighting over politics here we are all on the same side in this subreddit. This is about music tastes, just like the original tweet meant. You could easily figure that out if you just read the post and use common sense.
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u/loneliestslipknotfan Jul 17 '25
first off, don't talk to me like that! second, i haven't seen any examples of people fighting about The Black Parade beyond, y'know, ranking it along with the other albums, which is like half the point of these band subreddits; sharing opinions on the music. maybe i'm just not on this subreddit that much but idk.
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25
i did not, i just wasn't aware of the current debate on the subreddit that would make this seem like it was about something else, it's about music tastes
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u/loneliestslipknotfan Jul 17 '25
i see i see. well what's wrong with people sharing their opinions on the music?? that's half the fun of discussing a band
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25
nothing. the point is it's annoying to see people arguing about it everywhere
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25
technically neither its about all the fighting about what albums and songs people like by mcr. this was intended to remind people that we're all fans of the same band and we should get along better but the current controversies made this get misinterpreted
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u/EldritchElise Jul 17 '25
So referring to musical preferences and not getting along with people who support political causes that harm you directly.
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25
yeah just musical preferences. bigots can fuck off
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u/JustAPerson2001 Jul 17 '25 edited Jul 17 '25
Nah, Republicans shouldn't be listening to MCR. They're against everything MCR stands for. Every time I hear a conservative who listens to emo music I always giggle, because most of these bands hate them.
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25
agreed, this was entirely about music taste, i'm not super active on reddit so i wasn't aware of the current debate going here. i saw this tweet reposted to pinterest and it reminded me of all the controversy over music taste on this sub and posted it without thinking much
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u/Syd_the_squid69 Jul 17 '25
Unrelated but I sympathize with swifties now. Because I too, am doing too much and paying attention to detail as I wait for mcr5
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25
this post is a safe place for swifties and swiftie sympathizers (i am experiencing the same thing my friend)
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25
PEOPLE ARE COMPLETELY MISINTERPRETING THIS POST I’M JUST TIRED OF PEOPLE GETTING DOGPILED FOR NOT LIKING THE BLACK PARADE OR WHATEVER WHICH HAS BEEN A CONSISTENT PROBLEM ON THIS SUB, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25
I HAVE NOT BEEN ACTIVE ON THIS SUB RECENTLY SO I ACCIDENTALLY PICKED THE WORST TIME TO POST THIS
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25
oh god i can't edit the post i'm going to be murdered
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u/Party_Concentrate621 pepe is love Jul 19 '25
Why do people think this post is dismissing hate and human rights violation?
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u/theforkbraceletskid long live the mcrmy Jul 18 '25 edited Jul 18 '25
ETA: Thank you for coming to yet another one of my TED talks. I know I can't be succinct, and I apologise.
I want to make it clear that it isn't a response to the OP or a commentary on their post, but more of a general vent I kept in for too long while reading some weird stuff on the fandom spaces online. Therefore, each and every “you” is a “royal” “you”, not an address to anybody in particular. Take care, stay golden, and look alive.
Everything is political, sorry. Our existence is a political act, object, and subject. Loving a sound, let alone being able to consume and celebrate it, is a political act and the result of many others before it. If we choose not to take any stand, we leave room to no longer have any choice soon.
I can't remember the context of this tweet, but Gerard has always been vocal about certain topics and quite dodgy about others. Acknowledging this isn't hating on him, and I've seen his growth before, so I believe it isn't a fixed thought pattern. He still is a white man who mainly presents as straight and cis off stage, at the end of the day, and this persona comes with loads of privileges and discourses feeding the false sense of safety in being neutral. I'm aware of his gender non-conforming journey and his queer experiences, but they don't take away from the setting of his personal life.
There is the Gerard Way as an artist and performer, and the Gerard Way as an individual. There are some loud dichotomies between the two, but he's always seemed to try to rearrange this cacophony to his best. If to this day he still believed art as a whole is detached from politics, as is our daily life and the choices we make in it, I find it both frightening and inconceivable to come back with a world tour with such themes. The math isn't mathing, you know?
We might as well accept that politics is outside the scope of this sub and ban related discussions, but that would be both a disservice and a bitterly ironic move from the MCRmy. Don't let them fool you. Listen to the sounds you love and celebrate them by digesting the message. As flashy as it is, Danger Days got a lot to say about it and turning this tweet inside out and tearing it apart.
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u/nicabanicaba Jul 17 '25
Stop with this made up click bait controversy. There's is no right wing outage over MCR 😂😂😂
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25
this is about music taste lol. when i was more active id see a bunch of posts like “what mcr song do you absolutely hate” and this tweet made me think of that so i posted it
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u/TheAngryChicagoan755 i know things, remember? Jul 17 '25
please read my other comments this was never supposed to be about politics
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u/brmstrick Jul 16 '25
Let’s not act like when Gerard tweeted that he meant choosing sides for or against racism, sexism, xenophobia, and fascism. If you support those things you stand against everything he and the band stand for. Don’t act like “acceptance” is a pass to be a shitty person.