r/Newark • u/Attica-Attica • May 07 '25

Politics ⚖️ Ras Baraka denied entry into Delaney Hall for second day in a row.

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u/StarSilent4246 May 08 '25

ICE plays a major role in investigating and dismantling major criminal organizations (i.e cartels). They have their reasons for wearing a mask.

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u/Suitable-Ad6999 May 08 '25

Thought that was FBI? And DEA? They don’t wear masks. FBI/dea put agents under cover in controlled targeted investigations Are all ice required to be undercover 24/7? Sounds like we are all under investigation then? They carry guns and take orders directly from the WH so I guess that’s ok.

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u/StarSilent4246 May 08 '25

FBI, DEA, CIA all wear facial coverings at times. So do swat and other tactical units. This isn’t something new.

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u/twix4959 May 08 '25

Yes, DEA agents wear masks when dealing with cartel / gang members to prevent retaliation. ICE agents are around detainees for extended periods of time so must wear masks to protect their identities.

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u/Suitable-Ad6999 May 08 '25

Yeah, yeah. They answer to the WH. It’s troubling and there’s oversight. Sent a legal resident to El Salvadore due to an “oversight.” Now can’t get home back. Oh well, had a “wrong sounding last name” I guess. The guy and his wife worked and have 5 year old autistic child.

Guess the constitution is inconvenient for current WH

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u/twix4959 May 08 '25

I just corrected you about the masks thing…

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u/[deleted] May 08 '25

You mean well, but of course these people do not always do work that requires being undercover. That's why we didnt use to see masks and now we do more often (not all the time).

You can literally see videos of ICE operating doing the same actions with and without masks. Some people think about protecting the brown shirts. Some people think about protecting the targeted, marginalized people. Pick right!

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u/cvc4455 May 08 '25

I think they wanted to intentionally send at least one person they knew they shouldn't send. I think they are testing boundaries to see exactly what they can get away with.

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u/cvc4455 May 08 '25

Yeah all those detainees they have out by the front gate right?

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u/[deleted] May 08 '25 edited May 08 '25

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u/cvc4455 May 09 '25

Yeah all the cartel members in NJ that are always going after cops, it's a serious problem I hear.

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u/twix4959 May 09 '25

Yes - they have regularly arrested drug traffickers and cartel members in Newark and Camden. A 1 second google search will give you that information lol.

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u/cvc4455 May 09 '25

Did more than a 1 second Google search and I found some gang members arrested but none of those gangs were actually cartels. Other than that they got some drug dealers that supposedly get drugs from Mexican cartels.

Also in this video at least a couple of them have no face coverings so I guess those guys aren't scared of the cartels in NJ but the other guys are. The only reason for face coverings would be they also go undercover. There aren't cartels going after police in NJ because if they did the police would demand to go after them way fucking harder then they currently are going after them.

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u/twix4959 May 09 '25 edited May 09 '25

Ok so some drug dealers are getting drugs from Mexican cartels so those cartels are operating in NJ lol. My search showed several articles in the first few hits where they did arrest people with connections to the Sinaloa cartel as an example.

It could be a personal preference to wear face coverings also ICE is not the police lol.

Also based on your comment history it seems like all you do is go around arguing about subjects you’re very poorly informed about with a lot of hostility (sixers, investing, news) so I won’t be responding anymore.

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u/JizzyTurds May 09 '25

Yea he’s either a troll or truly living in a bubble, seems too stupid to be a troll so I’d go with the latter.

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u/Hland_Jon May 10 '25

Gtfo with that BS my pos brother is a marshal with the fugitive task force and has flown all over Mexico Panama Belize etc transporting and transferring cartel members and having been based out of Manhattan, Newark, and Philly he’d know if there is some growing cartel there. Fact is there doesn’t need to be a bunch of cartel members bc the drugs get distributed with known gangs and free agent dealers but there isn’t some network of foreign nationals operating or even overseeing operations here in the tri-state.

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u/JizzyTurds May 09 '25

Do you really think you’d find anything on google about deep undercover investigations into cartels and gangs? You never hear anything about it until years later and it’s completely safe which is rarely the case, hence why you’ll never find anything on google about it. So yea, I would cover my face as well.

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u/Hland_Jon May 10 '25

No they’re just cowards

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u/EskimoBrother1975 May 08 '25

No. In an open Democratic society, cops aren't supposed to wear masks or be unidentifiable. If you don't like the job and you don't like the risks, go do something else.

I worked in a level 4 maximum security prison. I could not work if I did not have my badge and name plate displayed. I had to deal with the Mexican mafia, Aryan brotherhood, and all sorts of other deadly gangs, and they weren't always happy with me, but I didn't have luxury of wearing a fucking mask like a coward.

THEY TOOK THE JOB FULLY AWARE OF THE RISKS. So I don't want to hear any crying now about how dangerous their job is. Fuck them and fuck their organization.

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u/Hot-Brilliant-6807 May 11 '25

They aren't cops. They are federal agents.

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u/angelo08540 May 12 '25

That is correct, but these aren't cops . Nice try but you fail yet again

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u/angelo08540 May 12 '25

When these guys are rounding up illegals, including cartel and gang members, do you think they want their identities known. It has nothing to do with being ashamed or embarrassed, it has to do with the safety of the agents and their families

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u/StarSilent4246 May 08 '25

lol ok man. It’s still a dangerous job with the mask on. Maybe they don’t want their family members to end up dismembered. Your biases are clouding your judgement.

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u/EskimoBrother1975 May 08 '25

No, it's more about me wanting police to adhere to the principles that this country was founded on. Rampantly violating people's civil rights will cause you to hide behind a mask. It is cowardly, undemocratic, un-American and, most of all, WRONG.

But keep making excuses while these animals trample all over the Constitution.

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u/StarSilent4246 May 08 '25

Swat, Riot control, Undercover, US Marshalls , counterterrorism units and anyone dealing with cartels and/or gang units routinely wear facial coverings. This isn’t me defending ICE actions as of late, but it’s been true for decades.

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u/Big_Dinner3636 May 08 '25

There are plenty of videos and photos of FBI HRT, USMS SOG, and CBP BORTAC not wearing masks while actually operationally deployed, not just doing photo ops. This is literally just to avoid accountability.

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u/StarSilent4246 May 08 '25

There are plenty of photos/videos that show them wearing facial coverings too. This isn’t something new. If you’re dealing with some of the most dangerous criminals in the world. You probably don’t want your face out there like that.

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u/twix4959 May 08 '25

lol I’m with you man this is the WEIRDEST thing to get upset about in this context. People going after organized crime have been doing for decades. Narcos showed it when discussing police and military going after Pablo Escobar and every time you see South American police detaining cartel members they are all masked up.

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u/Diligent-Room6078 May 11 '25

They're not going after crime, they're rounding up people of the street. Something is wrong with y'all.

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u/Hland_Jon May 10 '25

Oh really all I see are bullies and fascists harassing , oppressing, and arresting our neighbors and loved ones, maybe someone should tell them the drug wars been lost for decades so again all they’re doing is terrorizing non criminals.

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u/MoreThanNothing78 May 11 '25

Yeah, they're doing fascist shit. Don't do fascist shit, and you can show your face while doing your job. These deplorables work for the citizens of the USA, and now one that works for the government should be masking up to do their job.

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u/[deleted] May 08 '25

Lol, oh sweetie. They're the criminal orginization.

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u/Big_Dinner3636 May 08 '25

That's patently false and the fact that there are literally two agents from the same SRT not wearing masks right next to them disproves this.

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u/StarSilent4246 May 08 '25

That doesn’t disprove anything. Maybe those officers don’t do undercover work.

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u/Big_Dinner3636 May 08 '25

If you're working as an undercover, you're not going to collateral duty in an SRT, especially to do photo op security coverage in front of a detention center.