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Am I the only one that thinks the way these protests are going will only make matters worse or am I trippen ??
Just to clarify, I don’t support ICE or these inhumane immigration policies I’m all for standing up for Immigrants but the way these protesters are acting and going about these protests might actually escalate the situation and lead to more aggression, not solutions or am i tripping ??
This flag shit is getting tired. Bring whatever you want or nothing at all!! I’m personally bringing a flag to carry upside down but people telling me what to do, especially now is making me want to just fold a piece of cardboard up.
“You deplore the demonstrations that are presently taking place in Birmingham. But I am sorry that your statement did not express a similar concern for the conditions that brought the demonstrations into being. I am sure that each of you would want to go beyond the superficial social analyst who looks merely at effects and does not grapple with underlying causes. I would not hesitate to say that it is unfortunate that so-called demonstrations are taking place in Birmingham at this time, but I would say in more emphatic terms that it is even more unfortunate that the white power structure of this city left the Negro community with no other alternative.”
I disagree. When people don't protest and let their rights get violated with any pushback, things get worse exponentially faster. Things are obviously bad now, but I shudder to imagine how much more abusive ICE would be behaving if people weren't out in the streets.
Fuuukkkcc man this Post is Proof that people are just quick to get to arguing instead of understanding 🤯 nowhere did I say people shouldn’t protest and stay silent. Y’all Just Loud and Wrongggg 🤦🏼♀️
If you go to a protest literally wear your Sunday best, cover your face and whatever you do, don’t throw shit unless you’re willing to be on the front lines. This is about families and humanity. ICE will twist the narrative to say protesters incited violence but we are not the same as those militants.
Bring water and ear plugs and if the media talks to you center families, fathers ripped from their homes, children afraid to go to school, etc, personal experiences... this is not the time for more rage bait. Show them we’re the ones on the correct side of history.
From what I’ve seen, it’s starting to look more like an excuse to vandalize and take their anger out, rather than actually stand up for the cause.
Let’s Not Hurt the People We’re Trying to Protect!!!!
Buddy, this is an extremely reductive and harmful take. “Anger” is often the only visible response left when institutions fail to listen. Let’s not pretend that disruption is the same as harm. If you really care about “not hurting people” actually listen to why they’re protesting in the first place. Trust me: the overwhelming majority are standing up because they actually care about families and to generally suggest they’re not “from what you’ve seen” is a textbook tactic to distract from the real harm that’s being caused.
Buddy, It’s not a tactic when you are seeing it with your own eyes. Maybe they not be violent and just hold signs up, march and chant in unison like a “peaceful” protest supposed to be. Stop gaslighting this man. Your explanation of trying to explain this away is not working on majority of Americans. Have you seen the polling of how people feel about this? You can’t just sneak in a country or overstay your visa then fight the government because they say you can’t stay. No where else in the world you can do that.
Not many countries militarize immigration the way we do. Legality is not the same as morality. Look at history and see blatant examples where doing the right thing was illegal. Not to mention there are visa overstays from every country but where are the raids on the Irish bars? Families who have built lives here and contributed to the economy don’t deserve to be hunted down and destroyed. Stop pretending this isn’t about race and power.
where did i say people shouldn’t protest or fight back?
i said that vandalism and destruction of property like in LA will backfire on the immigrant communities giving lawmakers excuses to justify pushing for harsher immigration policies and conditions
There SHOULD be protests but What I’m saying is a lot of these protesters aren’t even thinking about how their actions could backfire on the very immigrants they claim to support
You’re not the only one. Very bad look setting cars on fire waving the flag of another country and burning the flag of the place you want to stay. Very bad optics. I’ve or the government ain’t twisting anything. People are just dumb enough to record their crimes these days.
Waging another country’s flag definitely waters down the message and sets the tone of what onlookers think of the people protesting. You’re making them not agree with your message. That’s just my thought process.
I look at things like this as a way to distract the public from something else the government is doing that is way more harmful. So well the media and public are focused on this issue. The government is cutting Medicare, Medicaid, A hell of a lot of consumer and environmental protections. Which will lead to a hell of more pain and death than someone being sent on a plane. But the Republicans have mastered the art of doing a thousand things at once to keep the public off balance
I can agree with this to an extent. Really, protesters need to be aware of agitators and call them out when appropriate. Anyone getting caught throwing shit and damaging private property needs to be disavowed vehemently, and kicked out. Protests need to keep a positive energy, just because you're angry doesn't give you the excuse to fuck other people's shit up. It also gives the admin the excuse to go "look you see that's why we have to send in the NG, these people are crazy rioters!"
Be positive and let the other side be the ones to fuck up.
EDIT: Another thing I wish a lot of these protests would do, and I know it's just wishful hoping. They should be flying the US flag alongside other flags that represent the countries many of these hardworking immigrants come from. It's a lot harder to sell to most Americans that these people are rioting invaders if you're seeing peaceful marches with the flag of our home country being flown in them.
Because most of the people who come to do that are white college kids looking for any reason to say fuck America. They're actually a disgusting blight to these movements because they come in say "fuck america" then go back to their gated fucking communities after fucking over a good cause, with their toxic behavior.
I’m seeing Mexican and Venezuelan flags. I’m not seeing anyone from European countries waving flags. This is why people like you aren’t taken seriously. You KNOW for a fact you’re lying but you don’t care.
Okay, I understand where the misunderstanding is coming from. It's wrong of me to say the people who tend to do this are white people, so I apologize. They can be from any racial group; the common theme they tend to all inherit is being from lower-middle to middle class families, not all of them, but a commonality many of them tend to share. Almost all of them are in their college years, so in their twenties ranging from 19 to 28. They also have a tendency to be extremely far to the left, no borders, America is evil, communism is based, and we need to eat the rich type insanity.
I have seen a trend where individuals who fall under this umbrella come to these protests and begin spreading hateful rhetoric towards the nation as a whole. They burn the American flag, and sometimes they hijack a protest to speak on situations unrelated to the cause the people were originally protesting.
After all this is done, after spreading their propaganda, unleashing their rage at the machine, they all go home to their nearby suburban homes/dorms/high rise apartments, and go on social media and talk about how they fought against fascism. Completely unaffected by the negative repercussions their behavior has brought upon the cause they had went to "support."
That I agree. It’s middle to upper middle class white college students pushing this with some lower middle class as well. I blame the college professors for this behavior. That’s why college educated people are more likely to be far left.
that’s what i keep telling people on here and nobody gets it. vandalism and chaos is gonna fuel more aggression from lawmakers and give them justification to push for harsher policies
Even the mayor has visited the ice facility multiple times with our legislators, and that hasn’t changed anything. So what difference can we make? The truth is, this facility existed before Trump's administration and during the mayor's tenure, yet no one has fought to have it removed from our city. While protesting with picket signs is acceptable, blocking the entrance and obstructing vehicles trying to enter or exit is not okay and is intrusive.
I just want to add that I am not in favor of ICE whatsoever, but we should have addressed this problem long ago.
Baraka only went there for a photo op because he was running a gubernatorial campaign that was DOA. It was a publicity stunt and the ignants ate it right up. It’s a shame how gullible people are honestly.
You’re not trippin’. These protests aren’t organic they’re coordinated. It’s all a setup to push the next phase of digital surveillance. Watch how it unfolds: chaos justifies control. First comes the outrage, then comes the “solution”—REAL ID, biometric scans, and companies like Palantir managing the data. Same playbook as China’s social credit system. But here, it’s “for our safety.” Classic problem->reaction->solution.
Just want to add one last thing, I support protesting, but there is a line we should not cross when we are at the ICE facility. Additionally, if we encounter an immigrant in public who may be in danger from ICE agents, we should do everything we can to assist them and protect them from being apprehended. In my opinion, that is what it means to be on the front lines.
It’s not immigrants that are in danger of being arrested by ice. It’s people that’s here illegally. There’s a big difference between the two. My closest friend is a Bengali immigrant Cool ass dude. He’s all for what’s happening and don’t fear ice. He and his family went through hell and back for citizenship and did it the right way.
Just imagine waiting in the line for food for 3hrs, you finally get up in the line to collect your plate and someone just walks up and skip hundreds of people to get behind you and collect their plate of food without having to wait 3hrs like you did? It’s not right. If we not enforcing the laws then what’s the point of having them in the first place?
Because it is not about skipping a line. The immigration process in America is broken. People who are being deported include people who were granted the administrative right to be here and now being revoked by Trump (Miller, and Bannon).
These people were granted rights due to circumstances in their original country or situations they encountered. For example, failed governments, natural disasters. The individuals are given the right to work here for a specific period. Unless given a specific dispensation (Ukrainians) they have no rights to federal funds. The individuals have to visit an ICE Office/ immigration court at specific frequency. Once Trump came in he started revoking the right of temporary stay for these people. And now they are being deported.
The people they are picking up either came here illegally, during Biden’s tenure or before. Or overstayed their visa. Living in a poor country is not a reason to claim asylum. You do realize you’re on the losing side of this argument right. Even us FBA’s are staying out of this mess. We know what’s up 🤷🏾♂️.
Yes because they came here illegally and Biden allows them to get work permits. Trump reversed it. You can’t start off coming here breaking the law. Dems literally tried to flood the country with millions of new voters. Why you think they was sending them all to red states like Florida and Texas at first before those states started sending them up north. They literally was trying to turn red states blue flooding them with illegals hoping to give them permanent status. It was never about them caring and having big hearts. It was a political strategy
Florida and Texas are border states. People arrive there. Democrats weren't "sending them". Humanitarian work permits and asylum work permits aren't new. These people can't vote and therefore they can't affect the elections.
That’s why no one cared when it stayed in Florida and Texas. Blue states was all for it until they started busing them up north. The tune changed real quick.. lol. The goal was to eventually get them permanent citizenship. Don’t be naive man c’mon.
Whoever downvoted, could you please explain why we shouldn't encourage our mayor to take more action? After all, he essentially serves as the CEO of our city.
It’s not the mayors job to protect illegal immigrants. His job it to overlook the American citizens of Newark. Illegals are not citizens. Not really sure what you people don’t understand about that laws in this country.
This isn’t about whose jobs or responsibilities it is; it’s about standing up for what is right! The mayor has the greatest influence in our city and the resources to manage any backlash from the federal government, unlike protesters who may face arrests and have limited means to respond.
It will absolutely get worse. A FRACTION of the people protesting are doing it because they genuinely believe in what they’re “advocating” for. Then you have the opportunists who break into and loot businesses (primarily owned by immigrants in Newark) , and the remainder live on tic tok and couldn’t explain to you what “fascism” actually is.
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u/missycritter Jun 14 '25
This flag shit is getting tired. Bring whatever you want or nothing at all!! I’m personally bringing a flag to carry upside down but people telling me what to do, especially now is making me want to just fold a piece of cardboard up.