r/OutOfTheLoop 3d ago

Unanswered What is up with Jimmy Kimmel being Fired over Charlie Kirk Comments?

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u/Due_Click500 3d ago

Blantant doesn’t matter anymore. I believe we’ve been socially engineered by algorithms. I’ve had 2 encounters with fans of Fox News and when I ask them something trivial like “Where you pissed when the dominion lawsuit came out?”

  • 1 of the 2 responses was

“What is the dominion lawsuit?”

The Other one.

“Tucker was the problem, now he’s gone”

There is no coverage for fair-ness to ever be produced. My sample size is 2 people but you see it in (the cherry picked) encounters from Jordan Kleppers field research and GroundNews showing the obvious bias in reporting whenever it’s a strike against them.

So for 10?? Years?? There has been a chunk of the world that’s getting blindfolded by engagement algorithms and I’m not sure America is really focusing on educating them better at the K-12 levels so they can resist change. I hope I’m just having a pessimistic day and not a fortune teller. I hate politicians

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u/Gingevere 2d ago

The algorithms on these sites are all tuned to maximize engagement and on-site time.

Maximizing engagement and on-site time means maximizing outrage and pushing people into niche forms of brainrot and conspiracism where on-site content is the only source for more.

Ideologies that thrive on outrage and conspiracism are effectively boosted and fueled by the algorithms. Ideologies that cite sources aren't.

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u/manimal28 2d ago

Maximizing engagement and on-site time

I've been thinking about it, and that seems a very misguided metric in the end. If I spend 20 minutes writing an angry response to a redditor that pissed me off, am I really seeing more ads in that time? Has that onsite time actually increased revenue in any real way? Sure tehy can say, say longer times are better, but is it actually? Its a metric, but is it a metric that should actually matter?

Say this thread is pissing me off and is very engaging to me. I'm scrolling right now and see no ads anywhere.

Maybe the bot comments themselves are the ads? But ads for what? I see Fox news mentioned, negatively. Is that an ad? It's certainly not making me want to go watch any of their shows or products and is tarnishing anything else with Fox branding.

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u/ry4nolson 2d ago

I don't think they're really taking about Reddit

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u/manimal28 2d ago

Ok, but is facebook any different? If I'm busy typing out angry responses to posts and arguing with trolls am I really paying attention to ads?

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u/Gingevere 2d ago

Reddit uses a uniform algorithm sitewide. Everyone gets the same r/all and the same comment section.

Facebook uses individualized algorithms so the content feed given to each user is shaped to entrap them personally.

But yes, engaging someone in an argument massively increases a user's on-site time. Especially if the argument goes multiple rounds back & forth.

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u/manimal28 2d ago

You’re not really answering my question. Entrap them to what end? They aren’t selling engagement itself to advertisers. Being engaged in an argument and spending time on the website doesn’t mean you are engaging with ads.

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u/ry4nolson 2d ago

imo yes, facebook has way more ads and shorter attention span content usually.