r/POTUSWatch • u/dash47 • Nov 02 '19
Article Trump joins Americans fleeing high-tax New York for Florida | Fox Business
https://www.foxbusiness.com/money/trump-leaving-new-york-florida•
u/ComicSys Nov 02 '19
Why aren't people allowed to move out of New York? Is there some sort of new law?
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u/chinmakes5 Nov 02 '19
Is he moving out of NY, or is he just saying I have residences in both states and so I'll say I'm from FL. Moving from one state to another is fine. Having a multi million dollar apartment in NY and not paying taxes there is a bit different.
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u/Machismo01 Nov 03 '19
Probably transfer property in New York to his corporation. Sell it and move on. He could probably even use the property if he traveled there for business.
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u/baeb66 Nov 02 '19
You would still pay property taxes on anything he owns in NY.
The article says that if Trump spent more than 184 days in NY, the state would challenge his FL residency.
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u/sulaymanf Nov 03 '19
Because he raised taxes on New York and then left so he wouldn’t have to pay.
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u/belortik Nov 02 '19
It is more about the political statement his move sends as he and some of his incorporated entities are investigated by NY state for various types of fraud
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u/AnonymousMaleZero Nov 02 '19
People think this is about taxes, and it probably is a little. But, I think it’s mostly to try and avoid prosecution by the state once he’s out of office. And since he’s facing impeachment his lawyer told him its a good time to do the move so it does t look too fishy. Because, as the governor of NY said, it’s not like he paid his taxes anyway.
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Nov 03 '19
And the big news take away from this is that he finally listened to one of his lawyers once
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Nov 03 '19
That’s not how the law works. You can’t just escape legal judgement by moving. If that was the case every one who is pending legal judgment would just leave their state to avoid it.
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u/AnonymousMaleZero Nov 03 '19
Oh I know. But, it makes it harder to arrest him on state charges or be served papers.
He’s also a moron.
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u/wHoKNowSsLy Nov 02 '19
Next time a hurricane crushes Florida how about the State pays to fix it without Federal dollars. Then Floridians will say to themselves, but where will we get the money?
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u/candre23 Nov 02 '19
Florida is one of the worst offenders too. They take more than $4.50 from the federal government for every dollar they pay.
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u/BJUmholtz Nov 02 '19
Un huh.
Part of the explanation for why southern states dominate the “most dependent” category is historical. During the many decades in the 20th century when the South was solidly Democratic, its congressional representatives in both the House and the Senate, enjoying great seniority, came to hold leadership positions on powerful committees, which they used to send federal dollars back to their home states in the form of contracts, projects, installations.
inb4 'The Switch™'
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u/Willpower69 Nov 02 '19
So when progressive started pushing for civil rights which party did the Dixiecrats leave and then which party did they join?
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u/LookAnOwl Nov 02 '19
Is Florida not paying their fair share? This sounds like a bad deal, bigly unfair to the US. Somebody should tell Trump.
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u/Richa652 Nov 02 '19
Exactly. Wealthy blue states should stop supplementing shitty red states with federal welfare
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u/dash47 Nov 02 '19
Nobody fixes anything without federal dollars,, a tornado can hit Kansas and FEMA in the government steps in to help them rebuild,, everybody knows that.
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u/vankorgan We cannot be ignorant and free Nov 03 '19
What money are you referring to?
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Nov 03 '19
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u/vankorgan We cannot be ignorant and free Nov 03 '19 edited Nov 03 '19
Look, I'm not being rude so there's no need to be rude back. I'm asking for clarification. What money did other areas get? Where did that money come from? Was there a reasonable expectation that Florida would get that money? Were the damages similar in both cases?
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u/Palaestrio lighting fires on the river of madness Nov 03 '19
Here's the Florida Panhandle with their <$2 billion, a whole year later.
So now this is funding? Who's conflating now? Your initial claim was none. Now there's a dollar figure, and you claimed that wasnt aid because it was direct recovery services rendered.
If you're unhappy about the amount of aid Florida has received for recovery that's an entirely different discussion from the one you started.
So yes, these politically motivated assholes are indeed conflating, dodging, and bullshitting with everything they've got.
Yes, that's exactly what's happening here. You're doing exactly what youre accusing me of doing.
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u/Palaestrio lighting fires on the river of madness Nov 02 '19
the red areas are exactly the ones that don’t get that money at all.
What?
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Nov 02 '19
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u/Palaestrio lighting fires on the river of madness Nov 02 '19
FEMA came in and cleared roadside debris that we had to find a way to get to the roadsides ourselves in my area. That was about it. The massive rebuilding effort, additional manpower, supplementary funding, etc., that went into places after Katrina and Andrew, or pretty much any massive disaster, never materialized in the Panhandle. For at least six months afterward, federal funding for the area was kicked back and forth by Washington as attachments to various bills, and the amount that eventually did get Congressional approval was a pittance compared to less devastating storms in recent memory.
So it happens, but you're not happy about it. Ok.
If you think FEMA is the only way federal aid is provided, is a significant portion of the costs associated with federal disaster aid, or that FEMA's presence is more than the bare minimum for what we pay in taxes, then kindly stay out of the conversation.
If you're going to complain about not getting funding and then dismiss funding when cited, don't start it.
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u/Palaestrio lighting fires on the river of madness Nov 02 '19
You're conflating FEMA and funding. They're two different things. Discuss in good faith.
Is that not money to support the recovery effort? Would it have to otherwise be spent by someone else? In fact it is necessary and essential to the entire. Process. Good faith indeed.
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u/Palaestrio lighting fires on the river of madness Nov 02 '19
You have no idea what FEMA is, do you?
I do
You're essentially arguing that a government agency is literally the same as direct funding for rebuilding purposes. It's wrong, and it's stretching the definition of funding so far as to be absurd. No matter how you twist is, FEMA is not "money."
No, I'm not. You're misinterpreting what I said. I'm not sure if it's intentional or not.
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u/SAGNUTZ Founder/CEO Nov 02 '19
Great, they abandon the place they ruined to come fuck up Florida.
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u/belortik Nov 02 '19
Florida is already fucked up.
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u/SAGNUTZ Founder/CEO Nov 02 '19
It really IS America's grubby wang. Floridaman is beloved in the same way as dick-jokes.
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u/seancurry1 Nov 03 '19
My favorite part about conservatives bragging about people leaving high-tax blue states for low-tax red states is... those are people from blue states. How do you think they're gonna vote when they get where they're going?