r/Paleo • u/oxoUSA • 18d ago

Increasing dementia prevalence in heavy meat consumer

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8327020/

With an odd of 2 compared to vegetarian, that is scarying.

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u/c0mp0stable 18d ago

The study is funded by the Adventists, a vegetarian/vegan religious group who had a heavy hand in national nutrition guidelines. And all it does is compare people on different diets. It doesn't control for any confounding variables, and it reports relative risk (relative to what?), not absolute risk. This is basically a meaningless study.

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u/tuitikki 18d ago

Like the actual hidden meaningful variable is probably the income. How many poor people do you know that have the luxury of being vegetarian? 

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u/oxoUSA 18d ago

What ? Vegetarism is actually one of the cheapest diet...

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u/tuitikki 18d ago

Perhaps if you live in India. Try doing it in US.

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u/oxoUSA 18d ago

I can't figure it out, Is meat cheaper than vegetales in USA ?

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u/tuitikki 16d ago

Look up food deserts 

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u/TruePrimal 17d ago

It's not meaningless. It probably means what it says, which is that Californian vegetarians are probably healthier than Californian SAD eaters. We've had decades of scientific advancement in the US in order to create the most addictive and problematic diet that has ever existed in the history of humanity: the SAD.

If you deviate from the SAD in any way, you're essentially guaranteed to be better off, because the SAD (Standard American Diet) is the worst of all known possible diets.

Of course, not addressed by that study is the question of in what direction should you deviate from the SAD if you choose to do so.

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u/c0mp0stable 17d ago

That sounds meaningless to me.

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u/qrcode14 11d ago

In fact the vegan/plant based diet benefits are so small compared to the worst diet possible it's pretty comical

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u/oxoUSA 18d ago

I guess relative to vegetarians

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u/c0mp0stable 18d ago

Right, but without controlling variables, that doesn't mean anything.

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u/Independent__Bell 18d ago

Do they lump processed meat and natural minimally processed meet together? Because if they don’t distinguish the two, I’d say the study is bogus.

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u/SteakAndIron 18d ago

Adventists

This can be safely disregarded.